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    You are quite the crafty craftsman sir!



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    07-14-2010 10:59 PM #108
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    Def inspiration, looking for a S1 as we speak.....looks good
    Best of luck in your searches! I have a spare one...but that is another story ^.^

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    07-15-2010 10:35 AM #109
    I worked into the dark last night. Here is what happened.





    Paint



    after it dried



    Got the harnesses bolted in.

    The reason I wanted to do this is because there is an Auto-X coming up and I want it to be ready for one race this season. and the drivers side seat belt did not lock if you tugged on it, this is a part of the Tech Inspection for Auto-X so I did a push for the harnesses. However! When I was bolting up the lap belt for the 4-point I took the back portion of the stock seat belt out to see why it was not locking. I looked at it for about 5 seconds then gave it a hard smash on the floor. Now it works perfectly.

    I plan on bolting in the Harness bar today bolt up the other side and get the seats mounted better.

    I changed the oil the other day so I might play with the tuning and take it for an extended drive.

    Cheers!
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  5. 07-15-2010 11:47 AM #110
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    slow day at work today So I made this!
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    07-25-2010 02:40 PM #111
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    define: Homer
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    A project done at work for use at home.

    define: Work
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    I like it. Work as all the tools to help me finish.

    Last night was a Nocturno-X( a Night auto-x) they are super fun and I wanted to go but my headlights did not work so I spent Sat Relaying them.











    Then I prepped it for the AutoX:






    I placed first in my class and 34th out of 84 RAW! Woot fastest VW there! I will post photos/ Vids when they are posted.

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    07-30-2010 08:51 PM #112
    Here are some videos of the event.









    There where 9 runs these are in order from first run of the night to near the last. I can see improvement! Still needs work though.

    and here is a photo A buddy of mine took.









    And one from Mr. David

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    07-30-2010 10:46 PM #113
    That looks like a whole lot of fun...I miss auto-x, but when my car is running that is where he's headed.

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    08-05-2010 03:30 PM #114
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    That looks like a whole lot of fun...I miss auto-x, but when my car is running that is where he's headed.
    Yeah Pete! people ask me if I am the Orange one when I tell them that I am driving a scirocco, then I have to tell them that you guys are out for the year, but that you are building it bigger and better!




    got a helmet today so I do not have to keep using the common helmets at the events, also I am planning on hitting up the Bogus Basin Hillclimb on the 4th and 5th of September. So I am gathering safty gear.

    The helmet is a SNELL 2005 making it good for another 10 years and I got it for $35 on craigs list! SCORE!

    bad thing is that i have a hard time fitting in my car with a helmet on, any helmet. my head hits the headliner. I need about 2-3 inches of clearance. I will be playing with my seat bracket, but hte big question is should I re-move my headliner?

    By SMF rules it should be in there, but it is just a thin peice of cloth streatched accross the roof. the biggist thing that kills me is that the headliner is in almost perfect shape. There are some rips near the back by where the parcel tray would be but that is it!

    do I have the heart to remove it so I fit?

    Let me know what you think. I also need decal location ideas

    Cheers,!
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  10. 08-06-2010 11:25 AM #115
    [QUOTE=Brycejoseph;
    Let me know what you think. I also need decal location ideas
    Cheers,![/QUOTE]

    Option A:
    1. Remove headliner
    2. Stretch a bump in the roof where you head goes
    3. Replace headliner, stretch and glue into the new "Helmet cave"
    4. Put a decal on the roof bump

    Option B:
    1. Grind the highest point of the helmet down to fit.
    2. Put a decal over your work

    Option C:
    Make a Convertible

    Option D:
    Lower the seat
    (Boring option)

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    08-09-2010 10:11 PM #116
    yeah Option A & B put me in another class.

    So as of right now it is C or change my sitting posture.

    some little updates! I am slowly collecting safety gear for the Bogus Basin Hill Climb at the start of next month.



    some more gear


    If you eyes are hurting at the above image I did this just for you.



    untill more stuff happens.
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    08-10-2010 07:27 PM #117
    okay I got some very cool stuff done today!!! and I think it looks SUPER sweet!

    as all good ideas start out ( some bad ones too)



    Then I started the cutting and fitting.






    Then welding, I don't like the way they look but I double seamed even triple seamed some places for strength, so not pretty but strong. I don't know why this aluminum did not want to get the pretty welds I try for. I spent 45 min adjusting on cutoffs still nothing. lots of tight spaces too i guess, I am kinda embarrassed






    I was off work at 2pm today due to being in the field for a long day yesterday. SO I started fitting to the car.



    And finished product. re-sprayed the black stripe in the center of the bumper for a little freshen up, I love the shortened bumper look.





    This is not a functional bumper as the stock one is. There are no dampers as you have seen. ALOT less absorption. I would not recommend doing this on a street vehicle, even though I do drive this to events. I am allowed to ignore myself , but you! you are to play it safe and jazz.

    That being said. This is a Rabbit aluminum bumper it weighs next to nothing, and does not rust. The stock bumper broke off due to rust one day when I stood on it, so it had to go. The brackets that I made are 750grams (side with tow hook is beefed up a lot more) and 500grams for the other side. Both brackets together weigh 1250grams that is 2.7 pounds. about three cubes if butter, this is significantly lighter than the stock set up. My grab-something-in-one-hand-and-grab-something-in-the-other-and-move-them-up-and-down scale says I am saving close to 25-30lb if not more off the front.

    untill next time, any one know where to get the red tow arrow decals?

    Cheers!
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    08-10-2010 11:21 PM #118
    Bryce, you car is not the prettiest looking rocco (but I think you know that), but it is getting more and more functional and by the results, lethal in class. And it does have a good 16V sound. If I/we are able, Jeff and I will have to make a trip to Bogus to take in some runs and cheer.
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    08-10-2010 11:35 PM #119
    Thanks pete!
    Coming from you that means a lot, you guys have ruled the SM class for a long time and with SMF taking hold I will have lots of fun competing with you two. I really am excited/nervous for the hill climb. I think I might be over prepping, but I see this as a huge leap forward. This is not Auto-X in a parking lot. This is in fact me hurling a car I build with my own two hands up a hill as fast as it will go, a lot can happen. Keeping the some-what-shiny-side up is key goal here. No shooting for records. No peer pressure to go faster. My goal is not to go off my first time up.

    I am trying to make it functional before pretty but there are times I look at it and wish. I might start prep for paint soon :/

    Another Nocturno-X this weekend so more night racing, which is good it keeps the motor cool.
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    08-11-2010 12:04 AM #120
    I wouldn't say we ruled, but we had our days. And the hillclimbs are about fun and keeping the shiny side up. But they are def a notch or two up, due to the fact the cones don't mean anything but the guardrails, trees and drop-offs mean a whole lot. And I will try to make it to the last nocturnal-x.
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    08-11-2010 12:32 AM #121
    Quote Originally Posted by Brycejoseph View Post
    bad thing is that i have a hard time fitting in my car with a helmet on, any helmet. my head hits the headliner. I need about 2-3 inches of clearance. I will be playing with my seat bracket, but hte big question is should I re-move my headliner?

    By SMF rules it should be in there, but it is just a thin peice of cloth streatched accross the roof. the biggist thing that kills me is that the headliner is in almost perfect shape. There are some rips near the back by where the parcel tray would be but that is it!

    do I have the heart to remove it so I fit?
    You could remove the stock headliner, buy some headliner material (any fabric will do, really), and glue it directly to the roof. The stock headliner hangs a couple of inches below the roof, so that might do the trick for you.
    Deal with it.
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    08-11-2010 02:28 PM #122
    Quote Originally Posted by Chris16vRocco View Post
    You could remove the stock headliner, buy some headliner material (any fabric will do, really), and glue it directly to the roof. The stock headliner hangs a couple of inches below the roof, so that might do the trick for you.
    This is a good idea, but as of right now I really want ot ovoid it because it is in pretty good shape. But if it comes down to it your ideas sounds great!

    thanks!
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    08-13-2010 12:08 AM #123
    okay enough of this text crap photos! Or photo rather, only one, I got carried away and forgot to snap more.


    This afternoon I cleaned up the rats nest of wires under the dash into something a little more manageable. I also put my headlights to a switch on the dash, and I am trying to get a switch that controls all power to headlights and ECU. This is not working as I planned when the car is running and the headlights are turned on the ECU does not get enough power so the car dies, so I need to think more about that.

    anyway! Right now the motor runs and the headlights are bright and now the tail lights work so that is good.

    until the Auto-x Sat night!
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  19. 08-13-2010 11:12 AM #124
    "A complex system that works is invariably found to have evolved from a simple system that worked. A complex system designed from scratch never works and cannot be patched up to make it work. You have to start over with a working simple system."
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    08-15-2010 11:42 AM #125
    Well last night was the Autox, and it was very eventful.

    Did one run had a shudder in the motor on the track. After that run it would not start, so I pulled it aside. after a few min I thought I must be out of gas (embarrassing as hell, I over filled it last event so I was being safe)

    ran got gas got back in time to finish my first set of runs. I get on the line with a co-worker and go to start and nothing, revs go up but car does not move. I figure clutch or tranny but there was no noise. I push it aside, then get a push back to the pits.

    during the wait for a tow from a friend me and several fellow racers think it could be many things but after watching it with the hood open we decide on blown CV, because just one flange was turning, and nothing else.

    Get a tow home from a co-worker push it into the garage, tossed a used CV I had laying around at it and fired it up. drove it back to the event and got there just as the last run group of the night was starting. I joined them and got 5 more runs. So out of the 10 runs for the night I got 6, but I still feel glad it was not something more severe.

    The CV that I threw in is an old used one and clunks and rattles so I will be getting a new one before the Hill climb.

    one hell of a night I got home around 12:30 and crashed(fell asleep ). Today is clean garage/unload car day. I'll post photos as they come it.

    Cheers!
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    08-19-2010 09:01 PM #126
    Well today I got a new CV so I tossed it in and moved on to trying to get it to start from cold. I got it so it would idle right after a cold start and a few little throttle blips.

    After I wait till the coolant is sitting at about 170deg and slowly push the accelerator to 6500rpm to watch the fuel map and feel for any weirdness. As soon as I hit 6500 rpm I lift off and the car dies.

    When I try to start it a few seconds afterward the starter sound really weak, and it will not fire. after about ten seconds of cranking...nothing the car dies. There is no switched power anywhere. I have tested all the constant power from the batt past the fuse box and it all has 12v but as soon as I turn the key to activate the switched powers there is still nothing at the switched points and most of the constant powers drop to nothing.

    Things I have replaced so far: three fuses blew. two 8amp in the fuse panel and one 5 amp to the rear lights. I moved the batt ground to a better location put a better bolt in it and ground down to the metal( because it was getting really hot at autoX). I have not seen any scoring or arc marks, did not smell anything, and did not hear anything.

    I am at a loss for now I will sleep on it and see if tomorrow brings any new ideas.

    I am so close to the hill climb I need to be working on Megasquirt not a wiring phantom.

    anyone ever have this happen to them
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    08-19-2010 10:26 PM #127
    Any current draw on the battery when it is all shut off? What were the two 8amp fuses for?
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    08-21-2010 07:28 PM #128
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    Any current draw on the battery when it is all shut off? What were the two 8amp fuses for?
    Thanks Pete for calling and helping.

    Pete suggested that I take out all my fuses and put back only what I need, because most of the wiring goes around the fuse box. I took all of them out except the fuel pump relay and everything worked again.

    The scirocco fires up way better now and there is less load on the electronics, so something must be grounding out hardcore.

    Played with the MS a little and it came out sweet it is running great, fuel pump is making a little more noise than normal I think so maybe crap is getting to it. why is there no filter before the pump? I might have to put one in there :/
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    08-21-2010 08:34 PM #129
    Quote Originally Posted by Brycejoseph View Post
    fuel pump is making a little more noise than normal I think so maybe crap is getting to it. why is there no filter before the pump? I might have to put one in there :/
    Get some Seafoam or Marvel and put it in the tank according to the label, They can add a small amount of lubrication to the fuel for the pump and clean any deposits in the system. I've had the pump quiet down after this also. And there is a screen filter inside the tank at the pick-up, if you added a conventional type filter, you could reduce the head on the pump and it would most likely cause cavitation at the pump.
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    08-28-2010 09:27 AM #130
    Quote Originally Posted by ps2375 View Post
    Get some Seafoam or Marvel and put it in the tank according to the label, They can add a small amount of lubrication to the fuel for the pump and clean any deposits in the system. I've had the pump quiet down after this also.
    I tossed in some seafoam and it seemed to do the trick, quieted it down a lot! Thanks again Pete!

    Been driving it a lot trying to get the kinks out, drove up Bogus with a co-worker and fellow Racer John Wirt. He just finished his 2.0 16V Turbo 1976( maybe?) Saab 99 race car and is getting it ready for the hill climb too. It was a blast to go up there with him.

    Here are some photos: (Click on the photo for bigger, if you want even bigger I have them too!) These where taken with my new camera! so no more crappy cell phone shots! The panoramic feature is really sweet!

    Fuji Finepix1800. Cheap but I love it.










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    08-28-2010 05:41 PM #131
    Nice! That Saab is pretty damn cool.
    Deal with it.
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    09-02-2010 10:39 PM #132
    two days before the race and I got some stuff done. I have decided to go for both days, I think the scirocco will hold up fine. I weighed it today and I sit at 1840lb, just a hair above the minimum for SMF. This is without me in the car.

    I will let the pictures talk:

    Day they came. 13inx8in, 4x100mm, 5in backspacing, spun aluminum weighing 11lb each.







    Mounted: sorry forgot my camera when I went to Big-O. I also got a Race alignment while I was there. Left Front -1.4° camber, .-5° Toe: Right Front -1.9° camber, -.4° toe.



    Normal tire:


    Not so normal:








    Stuff pre-staged for the weekend. My roommate left for Cali and left her car right in the way into the garage, she did not leave her keys. So the Scirocco gets to shiver outside tonight.

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    09-02-2010 11:00 PM #133
    Looks good, see you on Sunday. Have fun, go fast and be safe.
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    09-05-2010 08:19 PM #134
    So, how did the weekend end up? Do you know where/when the results will be posted?
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    09-05-2010 10:07 PM #135
    I am wading through the footage I took as well as the photos right now. So far my fastest was a 2:18 on my 2nd to last run, I only did two clean runs out of six the others had something happen or I almost span.

    Today was really cold and I could not get heat in my rear tires no matter what I did so the back end kept wanting to come around on the hairpins, a new feeling for me :/

    I feel like I could of been way better, but I could not get grip.

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    09-05-2010 11:36 PM #136
    It was cool and windy down in town, I can only imagine how cool it was up there. 2:18 is not bad for a first time on the hill.
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    Hey, Great work you're doing. Ques: does the diamond racing wheel people make an axle cover cap for folks who want to dress it up a bit? I like sure choise of silver 13" wheels. I have not had much luck with wheels above 13 in.

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    09-06-2010 09:55 PM #138
    Quote Originally Posted by vwbobby View Post
    Hey, Great work you're doing. Ques: does the diamond racing wheel people make an axle cover cap for folks who want to dress it up a bit? I like sure choice of silver 13" wheels. I have not had much luck with wheels above 13 in.

    ques #2: what is your source of tires and the size tire you have on those diamonds?
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    I do not know if they do make such a thing. I do know that the wheels are lug centric and the center does not come close to our center bore, meaning there is lots of room for a center cap of some sort. I believe the guy at Diamond said that the center bore was around 60 or 59.

    #2 I buy my race tires from a John B-something Tire that gets cast offs ( If you would like more info on him please PM me, he has hundreds of tires and is very knowledgeable about tires. He as answered many a question for me.) from the local race track. Most of the time these tires have been run one or two times and are 75-90% tread, and are very cost effective. Those tires are a Yokohama Avant A084 205/50R13's ( think off the top of my head.) So far I have only ran them this one hill climb and when the weather was warmer I had plenty of grip when I put my tires to the right pressures. When it got cold out I had a hard time getting them warm, but that is to be expected.
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    09-08-2010 08:13 PM #139


    Here is the in car of the 2nd run on Sat ( 2:25:401) when I watched it it look really bumpy so i did not do more, i should of though.

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    09-08-2010 11:19 PM #140
    I know you know this, but that was a very conservative run. At the speeds your car runs, you can leave the braking till the last marker, and use the brakes instead of coasting into the turn. And get on the power sooner and harder, let the tires do their job. But, on the "hill" is not the place to learn their limits. I ran a 2:10 on the kuhmo's with similar power as you have. You def have time to drop, but it is still a blast. And good job in keeping it on the road.
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