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    1. Member CalYPsoGLi12's Avatar
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      07-09-2009 01:23 AM #1
      So this car started its life as a digi 2 8v and now it has been fitted with a full ABF swap. I have been meaning to make a build thread for some time and just kept slacking. Basically at this point I don't know what to say, here are some pics. and stayed tuned more to come!
      Here is the car before it made its move to my garage. no motor!

      This here is a panoramic shot i took of the old 8v i put together when i first picked up this GTI.

      This here is the ABF all cleaned up before the install! cleaned by hand and still geting cleaner.

      This pic was taken after 24 hours of straight working to finish a car that was in tons of pieces for a local show "Cult Classic" but still had all its dust on it, but NOW ITS CLEAN! Also all these pics from cult where taken by DAN thanks, so good

      DIRTY!

      More Dirt! Forgot to mention thats a bit over 2 years of dust from siting in the corner! but i swear it cleaned up!

      ummmmmm!

      Engine Bay:

      Finally home from its maiden voyage to cult

      Thanks TO EVERYONE WHO HELPED! You know who u are!





      Modified by CalYPsoGLi12 at 10:33 PM 7-9-2009


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      07-09-2009 01:32 AM #2
      nice swap indeed. you get the lump from them JDM importers
      out of GA(IIRC)? how many miles? how do you like it so far?
      wiring harness too?
      looks good.

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      07-09-2009 01:41 AM #3
      damn man. such a clean mk2
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      07-09-2009 01:44 AM #4
      glad to see this car actually got built

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      07-09-2009 01:44 AM #5
      good chit where did you get the ABF from?

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      07-09-2009 02:34 AM #6
      awesome! ive been waiting to see some cleaned up pics
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      07-09-2009 02:54 AM #7
      whats the size and specs on the wheels?

      car looks good

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      07-09-2009 11:31 PM #8
      Quote, originally posted by cyclops594 »
      nice swap indeed. you get the lump from them JDM importers
      out of GA(IIRC)? how many miles? how do you like it so far?
      wiring harness too?
      looks good.

      Thanks! As far as the import i believe it was NGP / what ever the other outfit they worked with to import a few of these! It was original in a white mk3 variant once ngp had it! it traveled around pa for a bit with out being put in or ran. the block was free when i i checked it out so i figured lets give it a try and it was a long time in the making but otherwise the hardest is finding parts. i do like so far but i have yet to beat it due to not being registered or inspected.

      Quote, originally posted by watson »
      damn man. such a clean mk2
      i'm in love with it


      Thanks me too!

      Quote, originally posted by ratdub »
      glad to see this car actually got built

      Hell yeah lots of hard work and extra long nights! oh yeah lots of blood, sweat, and beers!


      Quote, originally posted by tomdooley »
      good chit where did you get the ABF from?

      Some guy out in the middle of Pa. i guess he wanted to put it in his mk3


      Quote, originally posted by steveo27 »
      awesome! ive been waiting to see some cleaned up pics

      Yeah, how about it! I haven't taken many pics yet since the bath or the heat gunned trim which you can see the before and after below. i also got some front end stuff off it at the moment.

      Quote, originally posted by GreenGawker »
      whats the size and specs on the wheels?

      car looks good

      Thanks, the RS's are 033's 15x6.5 et 34 originally that are now 15x8.5 in the front and 15x9 in the rear. I believe the et now is something like 8 or 9 for the front and 3 or 4 for the rears if i understand that calculation.

      Recent I took a heat gun to all my trim so it looks fresh again! here is how it went with a little before and after action on my rear bumper:
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      Modified by CalYPsoGLi12 at 12:30 AM 7-11-2009


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      07-14-2009 09:33 AM #9
      very nice

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      07-14-2009 09:51 AM #10
      real nice

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      07-14-2009 10:11 PM #12
      im in love with ABF's hows the power?
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      07-14-2009 10:14 PM #13
      Quote, originally posted by TheReverend »
      im in love with ABF's hows the power?

      x2!!

      how the power band on it. I bet that baby screams top end, im sure it flows smoother than the US spec 16v.

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      07-15-2009 01:52 AM #14
      Quote, originally posted by dirtywabbit84 »

      x2!!

      how the power band on it. I bet that baby screams top end, im sure it flows smoother than the US spec 16v.

      im sure its way better than the 9A i believe the block is longer so the stroke is a ton better i heard it's alot smoother in the high rpm's


      Modified by TheReverend at 9:53 PM 7-14-2009

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      07-15-2009 01:55 AM #15
      Quote, originally posted by CalYPsoGLi12 »
      i guess he wanted to put it in his mk3

      bahh mk2 > mk3


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      07-15-2009 02:30 AM #16
      thanks for all the comments! as far as driving the car i have only gotten to drive it twice. no romping yet! the day before that show i had put on a new set of kw variant 2's and dropped the car to something decent and still rubbed like a mother all around and i even cut my fenders that day too! so now i am playing with damping to stiffen the ride up and help me to stay at my current ride hieght!

      Also i had original installed a mk3 euro cluster in this car and it made the emergency flash relay go crazy and my driver turn front turn signal would not work! but just like a night ago i figure out that there was something more to the euro cluster! i replace it with a stock manual mk3 8v cluster and eveything was GOLDEN!

      So, now I can put the car back together and go get this thing inspected! then i can go rip and tell you guys what it really feels like!


      Modified by CalYPsoGLi12 at 1:31 AM 7-15-2009


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      07-15-2009 06:51 AM #17
      ABF is king of the 16v engines. My friend has one in his Mk3 and I'm itching to swap it into mine. He completely owns VRs with just a couple of mods and beats guys in 20v Turbo Mk4s (because Mk4s aren't cool enough ;-)).

      Next year I'm putting a twin charged ABF in my Mk2. Keep your eyes peeled for that guys/


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      07-15-2009 11:49 AM #18
      Love your car bud!!!!!! the abf is jus the cherry on the cake.... when can we expect some nice new pics of the car clean and with black trim i need a new wallpaper!!!
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      07-15-2009 12:00 PM #19
      looking great! was glad to see it there. Bringing it to h2o this year? where you guys staying? We wont be at the same place again so jason cant drool over your rado and we cant have fun watching the truck going up and down.

      Going to vag fair? Dan and I are trying to have both mk2s done by then.


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      07-15-2009 12:43 PM #20
      Good stuff I can't wait for us to rip down to h2o this year. It's going to be a banger

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    22. 07-15-2009 01:51 PM #22
      Car looks sick as hell man.
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      07-16-2009 07:47 PM #24
      Quote, originally posted by VW 16v »
      Good stuff I can't wait for us to rip down to h2o this year. It's going to be a banger


      Me either! So that's a yes Iwannagti we will be down there again this year but we aren't staying in the same spot again either. But we definitly keep and eye out far yah I really wanna see your gti inperson. No vag fair this year for me I don't think, but good luck with your deadline. But anywho thanks to all the other people who liked and commented on my car.

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      07-16-2009 10:09 PM #25
      a MkII with an ABF is a hoot to drive, aint it.
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      07-17-2009 06:50 PM #26
      Quote, originally posted by under the radar »
      a MkII with an ABF is a hoot to drive, aint it.

      Hell yeah!


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      07-17-2009 07:45 PM #27

      We should get together this weekend. Ill bring the Helios out and we can do a little photoshoot of sorts. Maybe get Dougs coupe out too, I dunno.

      Maybe cook some food and have a few 's.....

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      07-21-2009 10:46 PM #28
      coupe is down for the at least too more weeks... hiding coil pack and bought a aluminum racing radiator. plus the gti needs to get inspected. but we should hold it down before H2O....... get us B-town boys together

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      07-22-2009 01:59 PM #29
      Quote, originally posted by Joel Goodson »

      We should get together this weekend. Ill bring the Helios out and we can do a little photoshoot of sorts. Maybe get Dougs coupe out too, I dunno.

      Maybe cook some food and have a few 's.....

      I am down for all of the above!


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      07-22-2009 03:19 PM #30
      Quote, originally posted by VW 16v »
      coupe is down for the at least too more weeks... hiding coil pack and bought a aluminum racing radiator. plus the gti needs to get inspected. but we should hold it down before H2O....... get us B-town boys together

      For sure. are you guys going to VagFair? Lets do something after thats over. Its a Saturday show. If you guys roll down, I can promise some decent rolling shots

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      07-25-2009 06:53 PM #31
      I don't think I am gonna make it down there but I won't really now till a few days before if I am gonna get down there or not

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      08-16-2009 03:39 PM #32
      WTF WHY CANT I POST IN MY OWN THREAD!

      HA Figures! Finally after trying to post twice and losing everything I had typed. Lets give this another try!

      Ok well, I didn't make VAG fair and i was bummed that I still haven't gotten a chance to check that show out and see how they get down in york!

      As Far as the car goes, I recently scored a new grill, No more jom piece, OEM and Montana, so stay tuned for some new pics after the car hopefully goes for inspection during the week.

      BD'09 in two weeks and counting. Hopefully I will be good to go!


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      08-28-2009 01:03 PM #33
      Ok so like always, or atleast for me usually bad always comes with the good!

      lets get the bad out of the way first. I just found oil in my anti-freeze about a day ago! I am hoping it is just the oil heat exchange going bad. but i have been looking up head gasket kits as well just incase. I am going to remove the oil heat exchange today and see whats there, so stay tuned for that!

      Now for the good, I got so new front calipers to replace my old one which had broken bleeder valves! I already had 10.1's and this time i painted them up!


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      08-31-2009 10:29 PM #34
      Quote, originally posted by CalYPsoGLi12 »
      lets get the bad out of the way first. I just found oil in my anti-freeze about a day ago! I am hoping it is just the oil heat exchange going bad. but i have been looking up head gasket kits as well just incase. I am going to remove the oil heat exchange today and see whats there, so stay tuned for that!

      So friday night I got the oil cooler off and the housing too. When I first removed the oil filter a **** load of coolant ran out instead of oil. Apon inspection of the cooler I didnt notice anything to call it faulty so i am gonna replace it! I will also be ordering a new head gasket kit, bolts and a few other seals hopefully tonight or tomorrow. For now I gotta flush the crap out of system and get the mix out and prep to replace the head gasket!

      Today I removed the remaining gunk from the old gti badge it came with when it started its live as a 8v. looks much better! I am gonna go back out to the garage soon and do a few more things on the list of stuff that has to get done before H2O


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      08-31-2009 11:31 PM #35
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