I see this in my future. Which panel did you order? I have their anodized alum 3 gauge panel in my MKII. I really like their products.
So I have had these gauges in a box in my garage for the last 10 years. I pulled them from a MK1 cabby, but didnt ge the senders. I have no radio in my car so i got a Din gauge panel form 42 Draft Designs
So the install is pretty straight forward for most of it 5 wires
Gray with blue stripe= dashlights
Blue with yellow= oil pressure
Green with Black= oil temperature
So I don't yet have any of the senders yet. but i have determined what i need and have ordered them.
10 bar is about 145psi So i orderd a 150PSI Oil Pressure Sender M10x1
once get the senders. i will update this, as I am thinking that getting them to fit in may take a few more bits. I am planing on putting a T on the back of the head for the new oil pressure sender and the stock oil pressure switch.
M10x1 Male T Adaptor
not sure if the same T will work for the oil temperature sender as it looks a little longer. I plan on the oil temp sender to mount on the oil filter flange.
With the correct dual sender unit for oil pressure, you can mount it on the oil filter flange in place of the original sensor for the warning lite. It needs to close or open the switch for warning lite at same pressure as original (but I don't remember what that is at this time). If the switch in the dual sender does not match that stock sensor (switch), then maybe it matches the one at the head. If so, then you do not need 2 at the head. However, if you have the stock battery tray, then an angle adapter is needed to keep the larger dual sender from hitting the battery tray.
The temperature sensor can be mounted directly to the filter flange (without a T connector) if you either drill and tap the flange or use the flange from a 4K or similar. Easiest way is to use the flange complete with temp sensor and dual pressure sender from the 4K. However, I think that pressure sender is for 5Bar/70-75psi gage.
Quote, originally posted by FOXisVW2 » With the correct dual sender unit for oil pressure, you can mount it on the oil filter flange in place of the original sensor for the warning lite.
True. But the dual senders are not recommended they tend to not have the same variables as the stock low pressure switches.
Quote, originally posted by FOXisVW2 » However, if you have the stock battery tray
Nope its long gone
Quote, originally posted by FOXisVW2 » The temperature sensor can be mounted directly to the filter flange (without a T connector) if you either drill and tap the flange or use the flange from a 4K or similar.
The T adapter is 7 bucks.
Also made a lower panel from the stock panel from the MK1 cabby.
the panel and shown gauge are for a different car and project all together
a few more pics
Modified by Banned wagon at 8:00 PM 7-31-2009
Hey Banned Wagon!
It's almost like that ...
Ethanol works better with more heat, but when it is cold and is more difficult to switch on... (like here in southern Brazil, cars with carburetor and ethanol is more difficult to switch on in the cold ... need a gas injector to switch on in the cold ...)
E ae pelado! Outro brasileiro nesse fórum, é?
Tu tá no CdGQ?? (certo, Parati num é Gol, mas é da linha, né!)
Quote, originally posted by Banned wagon »
So I have had these gauges in a box in my garage for the last 10 years.
I see your 10 years and raise you 2 more... Except mine are a little different. Mine are VDO Cockpits with Oil Press, Oil Temp, and Water Temp (all senders are present and accounted for, as well). The first 2 served duty on my old AX S. Beetle and the last was purchased shortly after I bought my first Fox in 96. Unfortunately, the car got totalled before the gauges went in. In the intervening 12 yrs, I've never pulled them out and plunked them in the current ride.
So... How does the 42 Draft unit fit if you try to put it in the cubby? Is the cabby unit a better choice there? (This project has come back on my radar as I have been battling coolant temps lately...)
For the Fox I cubby you need something slighly bigger then the standered DIN size ($16 din panel)
for the lower panel I cut and sanded the MK1 cabby center console till it fit in the opening. or you can just get a FoxII center console(only seen in gray but you can paint it )
Got to the shipment from 42 Draft finished up the rest of the install.
I decided to tap the oil filter flange for the oil temp sender.
10mx1 tap and 23/64 drill bit (didn't have a 9mm bit)
all cleaned up ready to go in
used the brass T on the water temp sender
I am using the dual sender/ pressure switch on the head. the values on the pressure switch are close but not the same. shouldn't be a problem on the Fox. (in newer car will throw a code and check engine light some times)
Now for the fun part the coolant temp gauge install
Pull the canter vents, one screw on the top
pull the lighter out
cut out the hole used a die grinder
wired up. just taped to the power, ground and dash light . from the lighter plug
Modified by Banned wagon at 5:25 PM 8-15-2009
hey while we're on the subject of water temp gauges. i have a veglia from a fiat that has four wires and these written next to them.
green 12V (duh power for the bulb)
white Goes to the bulb
which one do you think i should put on the sending unit?
is this correct?
sorry to thread jack. but i figured it pertained to the subject
Quote, originally posted by Banned wagon » Well what help I can offer is this the back of the gauge should have 3 terminals (not counting the light) 2 of them will be insulated of some sort, the one that is not insulated is ground. the other 2 are switched +12v and the sender.
thanks that does help. does the gauge need the switched 12v for the actual temp gauge to read?
Fox newbie here, I look around the 4 pages of threads and didnt find what I was looking for. This thread seemed close enough to what I'd like to know.
I got a center console from a gti and I dont want it to just sit there. I dont have my fox in my possesion yet(in a few weeks or so) and would rather have gauges then a radio. What I'd like to find out is, can it fit in a early fox? 87 to be exact. thanks!