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    Thread: The 010 Lost Knowledge Thread

    1. Member B4S's Avatar
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      04-03-2011 11:16 AM #456
      Yeah, that's where I found a lot of info about the 010. The fluid map has yet to be found though
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    2. 04-04-2011 12:38 PM #457
      Thanks, but I already have those. The only document I've found that comes close to having a flow diagram is the one in German.

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      04-04-2011 02:19 PM #458
      Herewith a link to the SSP 08 about the 010 transmission
      http://www.volkspage.net/technik/ssp/ssp/SSP_8.PDF

      at the end of this document is a flow diagram with valves.

      @BBattey, I`ve also thoughd if reinforcing the steel cup, at the moment i`m using the aluminium cup which i`ve modified so that my 100mm axles still fit.'
      But I haven`t tried putting alot of torque on it because at the moment I`m using a stock automatic.
      The modified automatic is waiting for the new inputshaft to come.
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    4. 04-04-2011 04:59 PM #459
      @vwtuner-nl - That's the document I'm working with.

      Glad you could successfully rework the aluminum side cover.

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      04-04-2011 08:17 PM #460
      It'd be easier to work with that pdf, if there was an english translation for us savages over here in North America, lol.
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      04-04-2011 10:58 PM #461
      really the fluid flow is not a big deal...simply pull a valve body off of a transmission and start putting shop air through ports and see what it applies..

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      04-05-2011 09:32 AM #462
      Hmm...interesting idea. I wonder if my little compressor can handle those pressures...

      If my manual VB wasn't in a box already, I'd take a peek and see what they leave in, valve-wise. There are a lot of valves missing from it, and some bleed holes that are not stock.

      If anything, it would be nice to be able to actually make a 'shift-kit' transfer plate to firm up a stock box.
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      04-10-2011 02:02 AM #463
      This thread is a gold mine!!

      Thanks for all the info you guys are posting.

      I may have 2 010 autos coming my way and I plan on putting a reverse MVB in one. Not sure of the codes yet, though.


      I reckon it should be cool behind my 16v.
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      04-10-2011 02:25 AM #464
      You only need like 20 psi to actuate the clutches my friend...

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      04-12-2011 09:40 PM #465
      also I should add that its common practice for a transmission tech to actuate all of the clutches and bands with shop air before putting the valve body on and putting the transmission back in. Especially if your questioning something you can see if it works with your own eyes before you waste anytime putting the transmission in.

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      04-22-2011 06:21 AM #466
      It`s quiet in here, did someone already received "the shaft"?

      They would be shipped in the beginning of this week
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    12. 04-22-2011 06:14 PM #467
      Got it today. Time for reassembly.

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      04-22-2011 06:20 PM #468
      Quote Originally Posted by DCor View Post
      Got it today. Time for reassembly.


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      04-22-2011 06:49 PM #469
      I'm about to toss my transmission out the window and go back to my 4 speed . I've been fighting with the new shifter for HOURS, and can't seem to get the shift lever to the right length to use the Hurst 1/4 stick I got the other day. Now it's a welded/rewelded mess and my mojo is low .

      The stock lever is 70mm, and I am up to nearly 85mm (IIRC) and it's STILL not getting all the gates properly. Now I've got to pull the pan off and replace the hacked up lever with another stocker just so I can drive my car. Very frustrated and fed up right now.
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      04-23-2011 06:58 PM #470
      Last night at 10:30, a last-ditch attempt to get it right without doing anymore welding or dropping the pan.

      Result:

      Success

      It works, so now I can say I didn't waste 30 minutes installing it...and 3.5 hours trying to get the throw right. Eff Yeah .
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      04-23-2011 08:19 PM #471
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      04-24-2011 04:38 PM #473
      Hey chad since this is a sharing thread care to share how much higher the new shifter hole is compared to the stocker? also my turbine shaft arrives tmrw!

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      04-24-2011 04:39 PM #474
      Im liking what I see...

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      04-24-2011 06:25 PM #475
      Quote Originally Posted by A2TDI View Post
      Hey chad since this is a sharing thread care to share how much higher the new shifter hole is compared to the stocker? also my turbine shaft arrives tmrw!
      I'll go measure, it's also a bit offset at the top. I'd take pics, but I don't want anyone to see my handiwork, lol. I'll get the measurements and draw a picture. I had to angle the cable mounting/clip bracket slightly as well.

      It's not an exact pattern match to be honest. It's VERY important to put both the trans and shifter in neutral and mate them that way, it comes really close that way.
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      04-24-2011 10:21 PM #476
      Just got back from a 2 hour drive. Everything worked flawlessly. WOT pulls from a standing start, city driving, stop lights, gearing down, engine braking, etc...all awesome .
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      04-25-2011 04:09 PM #477
      Quote Originally Posted by DCor View Post
      Got it today. Time for reassembly.

      Who`s gona try first?
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    23. 04-25-2011 05:17 PM #478
      We'll have it together tomorrow night and will be at the Import Faceoff event in Kansas City on Sunday. We got a new boost controller so we'll be collecting data all day. I don't think we can win the class but if we can see improvement, I'll call the trip a success.
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      04-26-2011 05:00 PM #479
      keep us updated!!

      I`ll keep my fingers crossed.
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      04-29-2011 11:13 AM #480
      I'll get the measurement tonight, promise.
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      04-30-2011 08:08 PM #481
      I finally picked up my 300m INPUT SHAFT!!!! It looks fantastic, and chad I urgce you to pick up one of these suckers!!!! The project should be moving forward very shortly! A strong automatic a Holset VNT turbo and a 1.8t shoved into a 2300lb mk2 jetta should be interesting

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      04-30-2011 08:54 PM #482
      I'll call and see if they have any left. I couldn't get in on the buy in jan, too much stuff on the go. If not, I'll have to live vicariously through you guys .
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      05-03-2011 02:34 PM #483
      Quote Originally Posted by DCor View Post
      We'll have it together tomorrow night and will be at the Import Faceoff event in Kansas City on Sunday. We got a new boost controller so we'll be collecting data all day. I don't think we can win the class but if we can see improvement, I'll call the trip a success.
      And how did it go?????? please bring us the good news
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    29. 05-03-2011 05:58 PM #484
      Rained out. No news.

      We did; however, find a good bar and got a little loaded.
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      05-04-2011 02:06 PM #485
      To bad it rained out. when will be the next race?
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      05-12-2011 07:26 PM #486
      I finally finished my transmission and now its in the car. just have to finish up axles starter and shifter..shortly it will be done

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      05-12-2011 07:36 PM #487
      Just a quick question but....

      What are you people out there doing in regards to starter motors when fitting an 010 auto behind a 20vt 06A block (if any of you out there have this setup)?

      My stock 010 starter motor doesn't fit, as it has clearance problems with the wider ribs of the block of the 20v.

      I also don't want to grind down the block or the starter. Theres just too much to grind off.

      Does anyone out there make a high torque "mini" style starter for these autos?
      Yeah, well I'm not surprised, drivin' a field car!

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      05-12-2011 11:43 PM #488
      i dint think anyone has ever even thought of making a smaller starter..mine bolted right up but mine is the 058 20v block.

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      05-13-2011 02:57 AM #489
      Quote Originally Posted by A2TDI View Post
      i dint think anyone has ever even thought of making a smaller starter..mine bolted right up but mine is the 058 20v block.
      Yeah the 06A block is wider through the back section with big humps hanging off the side.

      Might have another starter to try of a Seat. 1.4L. Apparently this starter has the same bolt pattern.

      Time will tell.

      for those interested... Heres a pic of a 058 "external waterpump" block






      Heres a 06A "internal waterpump" block.

      You can clearly see the thicker web supports at the back of the block. this is what interferes with the stock Mk1 010 auto starter motor.

      Yeah, well I'm not surprised, drivin' a field car!

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      05-13-2011 03:12 AM #490
      Quote Originally Posted by B4S View Post
      Just wondering what length shifter cable you ordered with your shifter?


      Super stoked right now!!!!!!!!!!!1

      I just ordered every part required from Jeff at transaxle for my 010 auto build.

      All the same spec gear as in his 500+hp LS1 buggy!

      Can't wait to see how it goes behind my K-Jet turbo'd mk1, which has already dipped into the 12's with a stock diesel 4spd, Spec drag clutch & locked diff!

      Can't recommend Jeff enough for all his help & willingness to help you out with all kinds of advice.


      Will source a local convertor shop to mod the stock convertor for a 4200rpm high stall
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