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    Thread: The 010 Lost Knowledge Thread

    1. Member LA7VJetta's Avatar
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      04-09-2010 08:01 AM #51
      Quote, originally posted by B4S »
      Unfortunately there are no aftermarket options for final drives . The 1985-1986 (yep, one year only) 'TJ' box has the longest ratios...but it's really hard to find.


      I happen to have a TJ in my Jetta MK2, didnt realize it was rare.

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      04-09-2010 09:04 AM #52
      They're definitely rare. I scrapped a car with one in it, in a moment of stupidity .
      This is really odd, I was thinking about 010s this morning and this thread pops up. A sign perhaps?
      1987 GTI 16v, no build thread.

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      04-09-2010 10:53 AM #53
      Quote, originally posted by B4S »
      They're definitely rare. I scrapped a car with one in it, in a moment of stupidity .
      This is really odd, I was thinking about 010s this morning and this thread pops up. A sign perhaps?


      possibly. I was going to go turbo with a 5 speed swap, but it looks like my trans would probably hold 250 hp?

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      04-09-2010 10:57 AM #54
      With a 'freshening', it'll easily hold that much. These boxes are the same (more or less) as the ones that were used in the Audi 4000/5000/5000T, and they held up quite well in such heavy cars .
      Slow shifting on a stock box will be your only enemy, although there are options (as mentioned above).
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      04-09-2010 11:32 AM #55
      good to know

    6. 04-19-2010 12:07 AM #56
      this was a description of exactly what I just did. I had a problem of VERY hard shifting when the car was cold but after it warmed up, things worked fine. I suspected a dirty valve body and your description of the process was pretty good, although, I'll tell you what, you better watch those f'ning ball bearings!

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      04-30-2010 03:35 PM #57
      so I am going to AutoX my car, how should i go about doing it with the auto? manually shift? leave the shifter in 2nd?

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      04-30-2010 06:45 PM #58
      Depends on the track.
      I would leave it in 1st. If you find you're bouncing off the rev limiter for more than about 2 seconds between corners, then put it in 2nd. Just leave it there and let the trans do the thinking. Your hands, feet and brain are going to be busy enough without worrying about what gear you're in.
      Two-foot it at the start. Full throttle and full brake. Release the brake to launch. That'll speed things up a bit off the start.
      Good luck, and please post results on here. I'm taking my turbo G60 010 rabbit to the autocross soon! Can't wait!
      3 speeds are better than no speeds. I LOVE 010 AUTO TRANSMISSIONS!!

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      04-30-2010 08:35 PM #60
      TJ trans vs TC diesel trans http://www.fatboyraceworks.com...are=1

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      05-01-2010 05:56 AM #61
      Pretty short track. Lotsa 1st gear, for sure, maybe a touch of 2nd. I think you'd need some good power to make any real use of 2nd gear here, given the sloppy, slow shifting of a stocker trans (if that's what you're running) I'd stick to the above formula.
      3 speeds are better than no speeds. I LOVE 010 AUTO TRANSMISSIONS!!

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      05-01-2010 06:02 AM #62
      i am running a stock TJ

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      05-01-2010 08:52 AM #63
      also, anyone that has run a manual valve body, what shifter did you use, and did you still have engine breaking in first and second?

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      05-03-2010 01:57 AM #64
      Here's my experimental method of disabling the main accumulator.
      1. make a plug. I used an M10x1 pressure plate bolt.

      You don't need locktite, or a sealant. It can only go as deep as the threads you cut, and can't back off because of the seperator plate. The one lame thing of this method is that the pressure port you take gauge measurements from is disabled. It's not a big deal, because you have to at least take the tranny pan off, if not the valve body out to make pressure changes. So it's really nothing extra to pull your new accumulator plug out, or simply don't install it until you've achieved your desired line pressure, and won't be measuring anymore.

      2. Pull the valve body and locate the accumulator supply passage.


      It's an ideal time to clean the valve body as described earlier in this thread.

      3. Drill the hole out. 1/2"-3/4" deep will do. I believe 11/32" drill for an M10x1.0 tap. Make absolutely certain all chips are removed from everywhere.


      4. Tap. Remove debris.


      5. Deburr. Remove debris.


      6. Install plug. No threadlock. No sealant, No pipethread plug.


      7. Finished result. Make sure it's threaded in below the surface.


      8. For now, jam the accumulator piston and spring back in, and reassemble everything, including your freshly cleaned valve body. Re-fill with new ATF according to bentley (3L) and double check the level at operating temp on a level surface. Take her for a drive and enjoy your markedly improved 2-3 shift
      Last edited by Rabbit6; 05-07-2010 at 02:21 PM.

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      05-03-2010 07:39 AM #65
      very nice, what does the accumulator do exactly?

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      05-03-2010 12:09 PM #66
      Gear shifting is performed by 'muscle fluid' being directed from the shift valves to the actuators. To make the shift soft, slow and smooth, some of this muscle fluid is directed into the accumulator while on it's way to the actuator. It is used to push the accumulator piston down against spring pressure.
      By eliminating the accumulator, all of the muscle fluid's work is concentrated on the shift, and not wasted pushing accumulators around. This causes the shift to happen quite a bit more rapidly. I don't think this is the be-all end-all answer to a perfect 2-3 shift. I have a feeling that something needs to be done to cause the 2nd gear brake band to release faster as well as speeding up the direct clutch engagement. But this is certainly an improvement over stock.
      3 speeds are better than no speeds. I LOVE 010 AUTO TRANSMISSIONS!!

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      05-04-2010 12:23 AM #67
      some day when I'm feeling braver I'm going to try some of these things. great info guys. [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]

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      05-05-2010 05:19 PM #68
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      05-10-2010 09:30 PM #69
      DAMN! I've been missing out!
      Thanks for the info on the accumulator mod, if I decide to try out the auto a bit sooner than later, I'm going to give this a try. I wonder if setting the brake band a bit looser would help it disengage quicker? I should be running boost by the end of the week, if I can find a spare oil pan to weld a return on to. I really miss my 010 G60 Mk1 .
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      05-11-2010 05:07 PM #70
      Quote Originally Posted by Daskoupe View Post
      just saw this thread.My dad and me have a very built 8v drag rabbit wish this trans in it.
      We have modified the trans(the valve body and governor mainly).IT has held up to 100+ 7000rpm launches.This a great trans has no problem shifting at 7800.
      Would you like to shear information about the modifications done to the transmission?
      What kind of torque converter are you using?

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      05-11-2010 08:03 PM #71
      what he said^ MOAR info please

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      05-12-2010 03:40 PM #72
      Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Tickles View Post
      I put a reverse pattern full manual valve body in one not too long ago. It's pretty cool to say the least. Input shafts seem to be the weak point though.
      I`ll donate you some money, if you open up that valve body and supply me with pictures and requested info after looking at supplied pictures.
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      05-18-2010 03:54 PM #73
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      05-22-2010 05:15 PM #74
      I would, but I'm out of the country for and indefinite amount of time. I'm sure the stock valve body could be modified to make it fully manual.



      Quote Originally Posted by nickzom View Post
      also, anyone that has run a manual valve body, what shifter did you use, and did you still have engine breaking in first and second?
      Used the stock shifter.



      Quote Originally Posted by Daskoupe View Post
      just saw this thread.My dad and me have a very built 8v drag rabbit wish this trans in it.
      We have modified the trans(the valve body and governor mainly).IT has held up to 100+ 7000rpm launches.This a great trans has no problem shifting at 7800.
      How are you getting a stall that high and not ruining the converter?
      Last edited by Mr. Tickles; 05-22-2010 at 05:35 PM.

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      05-27-2010 08:41 AM #75
      anyone ever cam an automatic? did it work well?

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