BFI - Motor Mounts - Polyurethane and Delrin MK3 and Rado VR6

[black forest ind]

We offer a complete line of performance motor mounts for all Mk3 and Corrado SLC. Our line of Full Poly mounts is unlike any other poly options available. They are machined from extruded stock, not gravity cast. This results in both a more uniform product as well as a more durable one.

Be aware that the different motors will react differently to the stages. The ABA both weighs less and is positioned differently than the VR6. In general, the ABA will experience more vibration than the VR6 with the same mounts.

The hardware provided is grade 10.9 which is much stronger than the stock bolts, those of which are prone to breakage due to age and especially with harder mounts.

All mounts are available as kits or individual pieces. If ordering a single mount or piece, please specify front, rear, or upper to make sure you get the correct hardware.


BFI Stealth Series Motor Mount Complete Kit



These mounts are specifically engineered to fall in between new factory mounts and our popular .5 Mounts. Shore hardness is 50A - For comparison, the OEM mounts are around 40-45A in holey hardness. These are constructed from extruded stock polyurethane and are NOT made from rubber like the factory pieces.
This will ensure an extremely long product life that will not break down like rubber, while still giving added performance with factory-like comfort preserved. Included in the complete kit is a G60 solid rubber transmission mount. Stealth Mounts are Ideal for those that want improved upgrade mounts for performance without sacrificing interior vibration levels on both VR6 and 4-cylinder models.
Complete kit w/trans (5pcs w/hardware)


BFI Stage .5 Polyurethane Motor Mount Complete Kit



These are poly, 60A in shore hardness. They are softer than both our Stage I poly(85A) and Stage II Delrin mounts . These mounts are still a huge upgrade over the stock swiss-cheese rubber mounts.
We developed these mounts for those wanting an upgrade in both performance and durability over the OEM parts, yet were still very concerned with daily comfort. For comparison, the OEM mounts are around 40-45A hardness. These mounts will provide an almost factory level of comfort in VR6 cars while offering both an increase in performance and greatly increased level of durability. Vibration is more evident in 4-cylinder models.
Complete Kit w/trans (5pcs w/hardware)

BFI Stage 1 Polyurethane Motor Mount Complete Kit



These are poly, 85A in shore hardness. For comparison, the OEM mounts are around 40-45A hardness. BFI Stage 1’s are a huge upgrade over the stock swiss-cheese rubber mounts. Stage I is intended for a higher level of performance, over our Stage .5 and Stealth.
They still offer reasonable ride quality, with some increased vibration over OEM in VR6 cars. Vibration is far more evident in 4-cylinder models.
Complete Kit w/trans (5pcs w/hardware)


BFI Stage 2 Delrin Complete Motor Mount Kit



These are Delrin, and fall in between poly and solid metal as far as stiffness goes. Delrin, like some poly versions, requires some break in time. It will take 150-250 miles for them to soften to their effective hardness. They also require some heat in them to soften up. And on colder days they may have more vibration at start up until driven on for a few miles. They are also self-lubricating so it will never squeak.
The Stage 2 mounts are designed for pure performance, at the expense of ride comfort. They will hold the motor and transmission very securely and help get all the power to the ground. If you drag race or are after total performance, then the Stage II is for you. If you are concerned about vibration, then perhaps you may want to go with a less rigid mount from BFI.
Complete kit w/trans (5pcs w/hardware)


Please post, IM, or email us at: sales@blackforestindustries.com with any Technical Questions

[Unit01]

Noticed your gti on the new eurotuner.

Congrats!

[black forest ind]

Quote, originally posted by Unit01 »

Noticed your gti on the new eurotuner. Congrats!

Thanks! We are very Proud

[05JettaGLXVR6]

My Delrin's rock. No more turbo hitting the firewall.

[markthree]

Will the complete .5 kit raise the VR6 motor at all?

[black forest ind]

Quote, originally posted by markthree »

Will the complete .5 kit raise the VR6 motor at all?

All of our mounts are cut to the exact specifications as new stock engine mounts (i.e. height, width, and diameter). Corrado SLC and all Mk3 mounts are identical in dimension.

If the motor is raised at all, it is due to it having sagged over time and abuse. Installing any of our mounts will raise the engine to its proper static height

[[7one8]VDub]

my stealth kit should be here tomorrow... cant wait to get em im

[[7one8]VDub]

got em in... the car rides and shifts beautifully

now the hunt begins for rattles here there and everywhere.

didn't expect the stealth kit to cause much more vibration then stock but they definitely do which is kind of a bummer. I cant even begin to imagine what the .5 or stage 1 kits feel like.

[black forest ind]

After 500 miles or so, they'll break in and vibrations should diminish.

[black forest ind]

Quote, originally posted by [7one8 »

VDub] didn't expect the stealth kit to cause much more vibration then stock but they definitely do which is kind of a bummer. I cant even begin to imagine what the .5 or stage 1 kits feel like.

You may have overtightened the mounts which will cause them to vibrate more than usual...

[[7one8]VDub]

Quote, originally posted by black forest ind »

You may have overtightened the mounts which will cause them to vibrate more than usual...

I tightened all 3 mounts to 44 ft lbs with a torque wrench.

Your directions didnt mention the trans mount but I assumed it needed to be the same as the front and rear mounts... yes/no?

also...

I didnt have (3) 13mm bolts on the bottom side of the crossmember


Modified by [7one8]VDub at 7:38 PM 10-2-2009

[suffocatemymind]

I have .5 kit and the rear mount is the only issue...made my aba violently vibrate on the inside of the car to the point where I couldn't even hear what the person next to me was saying. I drove around for 3 months, almost 3000 miles, and the vibrations never dulled down for a second. I fixed the problem with a brand new stock mount and now my ride is perfect. [7one8]VDub, if your ride doesn't get any better in 500 miles then it won't ever get better...just put a new stock mount in. That's the honest answer and I hope that helps!

[VWn00b]

Quote, originally posted by suffocatemymind »

I have .5 kit and the rear mount is the only issue...made my aba violently vibrate on the inside of the car to the point where I couldn't even hear what the person next to me was saying. I drove around for 3 months, almost 3000 miles, and the vibrations never dulled down for a second. I fixed the problem with a brand new stock mount and now my ride is perfect. [7one8]VDub, if your ride doesn't get any better in 500 miles then it won't ever get better...just put a new stock mount in. That's the honest answer and I hope that helps!

That's funny because for my ABA the Stage 1 rear was what vibrated my dash apart. I put in a Stage .5 and I haven't had any problems since.

[black forest ind]

Quote, originally posted by [7one8VDub »

Your directions didnt mention the trans mount but I assumed it needed to be the same as the front and rear mounts... yes/no?

The trans mount bolts should be tightened to Bentley torque specs.

Quote, originally posted by [7one8VDub »

I didnt have (3) 13mm bolts on the bottom side of the crossmember

If you did not find the lower plate with the 13mm bolts - someone else has probably removed it at some point.

[deletedo1m]

just ordered last week. after almost 150000 my car needs these bad.

[04RSR32]

Quote, originally posted by black forest ind »

After 500 miles or so, they'll break in and vibrations should diminish.

I just hit about 500 miles on the .5's i bought. definitely starting to feel better!

[[7one8]VDub]

bump for a quality product

[megaDan]

Just installed the .5 kit to replace my stockers with 120k on them. Hooooollllllllyyyyyyy crap what a difference. Granted the stockers were totally shot, but wow. Engine feels much more firm, can tell power is actually going to the wheels, and I can make the 1-2 shift without a second thought. The best part was, I ordered them tuesday and had them by thursday.

[black forest ind]

Quote, originally posted by [7one8VDub »

bump for a quality product

Quote, originally posted by megaDan »

Just installed the .5 kit to replace my stockers with 120k on them. Hooooollllllllyyyyyyy crap what a difference. Granted the stockers were totally shot, but wow. Engine feels much more firm, can tell power is actually going to the wheels, and I can make the 1-2 shift without a second thought. The best part was, I ordered them tuesday and had them by thursday.

Thanks you guys

[scrubbadub]

Bought a 98 Jetta a week ago and I just order my BFI stage 1 kit last night, there actually my first performance mod

[[7one8]VDub]

thanksgiving bump

[black forest ind]

All Motor Mounts on Sale!

[bigk88]

ordered the stealth mounts on black forest friday for my VR6

just got around to intalling them today, the stock mounts were junk! motor flopped all around, put the BFI mounts in, motor was very firm.

upon initial start up i was very impressed, very minimal shaking of the car (hardly noticable), driving was AWESOME. smooth, definitely OEM+

i had stage 1 in my 2.0 for a week a while ago. the vibrations were terrible. mirrors rattled to the point you couldnt see anything in them, the change in the ash tray was jingling. i left the front in and went to stock for the rear mount, and G60 trans mount. was alot more tolerable.

id be interested in a hybrid kit. maybe stage 1 in the front, stealth in the back and g60. might be money!

to BFI

[derhunt]

I just purchased a set of BFI mounts.

I downloaded the instructions and even looked to some DIY tutorials but I cannot seem to find the answer to this question...

On the front-most mount, the instructions say to remove the lower "cup" that is held in by three nuts to the frame.

The lower cup in my 98 Jetta glx vr6 is tack welded in. Is this normal?

Are we supposed to grind the welds to remove the "cup" or is this setup the product of a former owner's work.

[black forest ind]

Quote, originally posted by derhunt »

I just purchased a set of BFI mounts. I downloaded the instructions and even looked to some DIY tutorials but I cannot seem to find the answer to this question... On the front-most mount, the instructions say to remove the lower "cup" that is held in by three nuts to the frame. The lower cup in my 98 Jetta glx vr6 is tack welded in. Is this normal? Are we supposed to grind the welds to remove the "cup" or is this setup the product of a former owner's work.

Can you please post here or email us a pic of what you are talking about so we can help?

[The Big V]

just ordered my rear/side and g60 mounts!...did the stealth this time for the rear/side...have the .5 front...my attempt at less-vibration mix...we'll see...prob won't install for a month and just do when i put stage 1 clutch in that i got from you guys

[fluffy1]

just wanted to say very good deal on great mounts had them in my 95 aba for about 2 months now and love them. coming for the cavalier/j-body scene paying this much for all the mounts when one front mount ~250 bucks i'm still floored by the prices bfi is the pimp sizzle!

[buddylove]

I have the stage 1 engine mounts and diesel transmission mount... It does vibrate a little, but nothing unbearable and I only get rattles on acceleration. I love them

[black forest ind]

Quote, originally posted by buddylove »

I have the stage 1 engine mounts and diesel transmission mount... It does vibrate a little, but nothing unbearable and I only get rattles on acceleration. I love them

Quote, originally posted by buddylove »

I have the stage 1 engine mounts and diesel transmission mount... It does vibrate a little, but nothing unbearable and I only get rattles on acceleration. I love them

Thanks! We love the Positive Feedback

[dubtech001]

I am interested in the stage 1 mounts, but I already replaced the front mount with WRD poly, but the rest are stock. So I guess I would only need the trans mount and the side mount and am wondering if the "side" mount is exactly the same as the front mount in terms of exact shape and what not. I only ask because in the price guide, it list the front and side mount as the same part.

BFI Stage 1 Polyurethane Motor Mount Complete Kit

These are poly, 85A in shore hardness. For comparison, the OEM mounts are around 40-45A hardness. BFI Stage 1’s are a huge upgrade over the stock swiss-cheese rubber mounts. Stage I is intended for a higher level of performance, over our Stage .5 and Stealth. They still offer reasonable ride quality, with some increased vibration over OEM in VR6 cars. Vibration is far more evident in 4 CYL models.

Complete Kit w/trans (5pcs w/hardware) $200 BUY HERE
Engine Mounts Only Kit (4pcs w/hardware) $135 BUY HERE
Single Engine Front or Side Engine Mount Kit (2pcs w/hardware) $70 BUY HEREBFI Stage1 Polyurethane Transmission Mount $75 BUY HERE

[..serge..]

my stealth mounts coming in soon

[black forest ind]

Quote, originally posted by dubtech001 »

...wondering if the "side" mount is exactly the same as the front mount in terms of exact shape and what not? I only ask because in the price guide, it list the front and side mount as the same part.

The mounts from front to side are the same ~ The Hardware is different.

[vcampg]

great company/product. got the stage 1's and love them

[black forest ind]

Quote, originally posted by vcampg »

great company/product. got the stage 1's and love them

[dubtech001]

I have heard there is some problems shipping to Canada. Is this true ??