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    Thread: BFI - Motor Mounts - Polyurethane and Delrin MK3 and Rado VR6

    1. 08-18-2009 06:47 PM #1


      We offer a complete line of performance motor mounts for all Mk3 and Corrado SLC. Our line of Full Poly mounts is unlike any other poly options available. They are machined from extruded stock, not gravity cast. This results in both a more uniform product as well as a more durable one.

      Be aware that the different motors will react differently to the stages. The ABA both weighs less and is positioned differently than the VR6. In general, the ABA will experience more vibration than the VR6 with the same mounts.

      The hardware provided is grade 10.9 which is much stronger than the stock bolts, those of which are prone to breakage due to age and especially with harder mounts.

      All mounts are available as kits or individual pieces. If ordering a single mount or piece, please specify front, rear, or upper to make sure you get the correct hardware.


      BFI Stealth Series Motor Mount Complete Kit



      These mounts are specifically engineered to fall in between new factory mounts and our popular .5 Mounts. Shore hardness is 50A - For comparison, the OEM mounts are around 40-45A in holey hardness. These are constructed from extruded stock polyurethane and are NOT made from rubber like the factory pieces.
      This will ensure an extremely long product life that will not break down like rubber, while still giving added performance with factory-like comfort preserved. Included in the complete kit is a G60 solid rubber transmission mount. Stealth Mounts are Ideal for those that want improved upgrade mounts for performance without sacrificing interior vibration levels on both VR6 and 4-cylinder models.
      Complete kit w/trans (5pcs w/hardware)


      BFI Stage .5 Polyurethane Motor Mount Complete Kit



      These are poly, 60A in shore hardness. They are softer than both our Stage I poly(85A) and Stage II Delrin mounts . These mounts are still a huge upgrade over the stock swiss-cheese rubber mounts.
      We developed these mounts for those wanting an upgrade in both performance and durability over the OEM parts, yet were still very concerned with daily comfort. For comparison, the OEM mounts are around 40-45A hardness. These mounts will provide an almost factory level of comfort in VR6 cars while offering both an increase in performance and greatly increased level of durability. Vibration is more evident in 4-cylinder models.
      Complete Kit w/trans (5pcs w/hardware)

      BFI Stage 1 Polyurethane Motor Mount Complete Kit



      These are poly, 85A in shore hardness. For comparison, the OEM mounts are around 40-45A hardness. BFI Stage 1’s are a huge upgrade over the stock swiss-cheese rubber mounts. Stage I is intended for a higher level of performance, over our Stage .5 and Stealth.
      They still offer reasonable ride quality, with some increased vibration over OEM in VR6 cars. Vibration is far more evident in 4-cylinder models.
      Complete Kit w/trans (5pcs w/hardware)


      BFI Stage 2 Delrin Complete Motor Mount Kit



      These are Delrin, and fall in between poly and solid metal as far as stiffness goes. Delrin, like some poly versions, requires some break in time. It will take 150-250 miles for them to soften to their effective hardness. They also require some heat in them to soften up. And on colder days they may have more vibration at start up until driven on for a few miles. They are also self-lubricating so it will never squeak.
      The Stage 2 mounts are designed for pure performance, at the expense of ride comfort. They will hold the motor and transmission very securely and help get all the power to the ground. If you drag race or are after total performance, then the Stage II is for you. If you are concerned about vibration, then perhaps you may want to go with a less rigid mount from BFI.
      Complete kit w/trans (5pcs w/hardware)


      Please post, IM, or email us at: sales@blackforestindustries.com with any Technical Questions
      Last edited by black forest ind; 10-04-2012 at 03:40 PM.

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      Ordered the stage 1's , can't wait to get them
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    3. 08-20-2009 01:04 AM #3
      You will love these. I have the Race Motor mounts and they made the car a lot more responsive.

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      08-20-2009 01:29 AM #4
      Just put the stage 1's in yesterday and I cant stop driving the car. I love it! That delrin tranny mount does its job almost too well. Good stuff bfi!

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      09-29-2009 07:04 PM #5
      i just purchased a set of your 0.5's and when i went to install them i noticed the small cup on the bottom of the crossmember held by the 3 13mm nuts is missing, how important is it and can i keep driving without it?

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      09-29-2009 11:45 PM #6
      i have a solid front, a bfi stage one rear engine and a g60 trans mount and don't have much vibration. i should of got the stage 2 just for the satisfaction great products

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      10-08-2009 07:45 PM #7
      I have the complete set of stage 1 ploy mounts and love them. They are holding up nicely with the added power. Great product and service
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    9. 11-27-2009 02:10 PM #9
      All Mounts on Sale Through Monday!!


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      12-04-2009 01:11 PM #10
      Just got my motor mounts (driver and passenger sides, complete stage 2) for my MKIV 12v in the mail yesterday. I know what I'm doing this weekend.
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      01-09-2010 05:51 PM #11
      I have the stage 2 (delrin) in my MK3 VR6 GTI. I absolutely love them! The vibration may take some getting used to at first for some people, but I personally don't mind it. Shifting feels incredible, and that motor doesn't move 1 inch. Actually, I have to go out and tighten them because it seems like the bolts may have loosened up a little. I'll probably put some lock tite on them. I definitely recommend these, and wouldn't have it any other way.

      My buddy has a mk2 golf g60 with a poly rear insert, delrin trans mount, and solid front mount. When I get out of his car my car feels like a mercedes. They really don't vibrate a whole lot once they're warm and broken in.

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    12. 01-20-2010 08:56 AM #12
      Do you sell .5's for mkiv? specifically, I'm looking for the dogbone mount inserts. Also, do you sell the stretch bolts for the dogbone mount?

      thanks,
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    13. 01-21-2010 11:42 AM #13
      Quote, originally posted by theo_b »
      Do you sell .5's for mkiv? specifically, I'm looking for the dogbone mount inserts. Also, do you sell the stretch bolts for the dogbone mount?

      thanks,
      theo

      We do offer inserts in several stages for Mk4's, Here: BFI MK4 Engine Performance

      The factory bolts for the dogbone on Mk4's are not stretch bolts and can be re-used. Mounting Hardware is not included with our dogbones.


    14. 01-22-2010 07:14 AM #14
      thanks

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      02-18-2010 11:28 PM #15
      Got my Stage 1 full kit ... Only to find that the trans mount had stripped threads . by hand a bolt will not thread into the mount , now i have to run a tap through it and if the threads deeper down are junk, swap the metal threaded part of the mount with my old one , kinda irritating,.

    16. 02-19-2010 03:44 PM #16
      I own a 92 passat gl 16v what will be the best mounts to use as a dd? thanks alot

    17. 02-19-2010 06:10 PM #17
      B3 16v passats use MK2 style mounts, not MK3 like we offer here in this post

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      02-20-2010 03:06 PM #18
      I run the stg1 mounts in my gti. I have in all 3 mk3's Ive owned... lol. I love em!

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      03-04-2010 09:01 PM #19
      Just got all 3 stage 1's... I can't wait till this weekend. I got a few things to do at the same time: (shifter cable bushings, tt short shifter, gruven short shift bracket, yarrowsport stress bar, and billet auxiliary water pump bracket... Should be a good weekend!)

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      03-26-2010 08:22 PM #20
      I had the stage 2's in my old VR and LOVED them.

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      04-16-2010 01:39 PM #21
      Mk4 stage 1 trans mounts still not available! Any time soon?

    22. 04-16-2010 03:38 PM #22
      Quote, originally posted by gehr »
      Mk4 stage 1 trans mounts still not available! Any time soon?

      Sorry, they are not. ETA is several weeks out.


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      04-17-2010 05:02 PM #23
      Quote, originally posted by black forest ind »

      Sorry, they are not. ETA is several weeks out.


      I was told 10 to 14 days about 25 days ago!!!!.........I'll give you until May 20th!


      No, but seriously I like your product and don't want to buy from VF expensive engineering!


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      04-17-2010 08:11 PM #24
      Mk3 stage 0.5 used to have

      vibrations weren't bad at all but the connection to the road was supreme on downshifts

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      04-20-2010 12:48 AM #25
      hello?.....several weeks....? .....anyone.........

    26. 04-20-2010 12:30 PM #26
      Quote, originally posted by gehr »
      hello?.....several weeks....? .....anyone.........

      You have IM


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      04-20-2010 08:10 PM #27
      Quote, originally posted by black forest ind »

      You have IM

      Back at ya! Mk4 not my Mk3!


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      05-17-2010 12:50 AM #28
      Ordered and paid 5/7...........had to call 5/14 because no tracking # was sent. I was told 5/17 or 5/18 for shipping at the earliest, it's a bit annoying to be so delayed and not be told of any delay when I ordered! I've been waiting for them to be back in stock for 2 months and I'm a little worried they still aren't available and I'm getting played!

      **edit**Just got an email and a tracking #, thanks! Was hoping there wasn't a run around, as I've always had good service and was worried it was becomming a little MJM like!
      Last edited by gehr; 05-17-2010 at 03:45 PM.

    29. 05-18-2010 02:01 PM #29
      Quote Originally Posted by gehr View Post
      Ordered and paid 5/7...........had to call 5/14 because no tracking # was sent. I was told 5/17 or 5/18 for shipping at the earliest, it's a bit annoying to be so delayed and not be told of any delay when I ordered! I've been waiting for them to be back in stock for 2 months and I'm a little worried they still aren't available and I'm getting played!

      **edit**Just got an email and a tracking #, thanks! Was hoping there wasn't a run around, as I've always had good service and was worried it was becomming a little MJM like!
      We definitely are not giving anybody the run around - We have been very busy and are just as excited about getting these mounts finished and back in stock as you all have been to get them installed! Thank you all for your patience and enjoy your wonderful new BFI mounts :thumb:

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      05-18-2010 05:19 PM #30
      Thanks again guys! It looks like you 2nd day them as well because of the delay, very cool! :thumb:

    31. 06-21-2010 10:58 PM #31
      was worth the wait!!!!! stage one for the win!!!! so amazing, thinking i could have gone stage 2!!!!

    32. 06-22-2010 12:53 PM #32
      Quote Originally Posted by GermanPowerEnthusiast View Post
      was worth the wait!!!!! stage one for the win!!!! so amazing, thinking i could have gone stage 2!!!!

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      You guys gonna be @ waterfest again this year - planning on picking up a stage 2 complete kit for my mk2 vr6 (corrado kit).
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    34. 06-25-2010 06:26 PM #34
      Quote Originally Posted by Scotty_2.0 View Post
      You guys gonna be @ waterfest again this year - planning on picking up a stage 2 complete kit for my mk2 vr6 (corrado kit).
      We will be there! Right up front - See you then

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      07-08-2010 07:57 PM #35
      how much for vr6 mk3 mounts? got like stage 3 mounts? best of the best? i could care less about ride quality i'm going vrt in 2 months and i need something to lay down the power to my LSD tranny

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