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    Thread: 06X-16V Hybrid - Thinking about building a new motor? STOP! READ THIS...

    1. 08-14-2011 10:17 PM #401
      Maybe someone in this thread can help. Can one use stock AEG pistons and rods MACHINED to clear the valves and deck the block to retain close to stock compression (or at least something good enough for NA) and than be able to stack head gasket for turbo setup?

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      08-15-2011 12:50 PM #402
      Quote Originally Posted by blankblank View Post
      Maybe someone in this thread can help. Can one use stock AEG pistons and rods MACHINED to clear the valves and deck the block to retain close to stock compression (or at least something good enough for NA) and than be able to stack head gasket for turbo setup?
      Everything is wrong with that whole post

      U need 16v pistons to run the set up. The tops of 16v pistons are totally different

      If u go the 16v piston route u need to find a set of pistons and Ross that are in good shape.... It's hard

      Then u have to machine them like I showed on my thread u already posted in make sure to remember the cutouts for the oil squiters

      This setup is going to run u about 3000 depending on how cheap u source the parts

      If u want to do boost.... Expect to triple that cost and don't stack ur head gasket... Get a set of wiseco pistons and a set of matching rods and go from there

      If u want more info.... Read my build thread again .... It's a lot more work then u might think
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      Really Volvo? A failure of system that is supposed to save the inattentive would have been noticed by a real inattentive driver?
      Really?

    3. 08-15-2011 06:54 PM #403
      Form my understanding you can't use the AGE pistons due to the valves hitting. I am a tool maker/machinist so i can do any modifications myself. What i am really asking is there any way to use stock rods and pistons and keep a close to stock compression as i don't want to run a turbo off the bat. I am trying to keep this as cheap as possible and want to go NA to start, and eventually get boosted. I am very aware of all the other modifications that are required and the money that it can cost to do this.

      I assume no has tried as it wont work and best bet is to go get a set of 9a pistons and rods...which i am looking for

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      08-15-2011 08:29 PM #404
      The aeg pistons have a dome cut out of the top the 16v ones are flat with cuts for the intake valves

      U can run 16v pistons and do boost a couple people are already doing it
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      08-18-2011 12:42 AM #405
      Quote Originally Posted by blankblank View Post

      I assume no has tried as it wont work and best bet is to go get a set of 9a pistons and rods...which i am looking for
      AEG pistons are crap...I highly doubt they would last very long in a boosted application.

      Hit 2 birds with 1 stone. Not only did I promise a 16V bottom end but also an aluminum one
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      09-20-2011 07:26 PM #406
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      09-20-2011 10:30 PM #407
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      09-21-2011 09:13 AM #408
      Very nice!
      what did the alu. motor come out of?

    9. 09-21-2011 12:40 PM #409
      Last weekend I finally reached my goal in the bunny. 405whp and 305wtq at 20.7psi. For those that remember a page or two back I did 367whp at 25psi....so needless to say the new setup works way more efficiently as I'm making ~40 more hp with 5 less psi.

      I've now reached the limits of the head studs required for this swap, I'm now looking for alternatives to keep the damn head from lifting. Once I do that it will be getting a race fuel and a bunch more boost.



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      09-21-2011 02:14 PM #410
      Quote Originally Posted by Jeebus View Post
      I've now reached the limits of the head studs required for this swap, I'm now looking for alternatives to keep the damn head from lifting. Once I do that it will be getting a race fuel and a bunch more boost.
      ...on it

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      09-22-2011 06:31 PM #411
      whats the limit on ARP studs? never thought about it before.
      makes sense why my buddy keeps poping heads past 550whp

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      09-22-2011 06:35 PM #412
      Quote Originally Posted by MK1 Rabbit GTI View Post
      whats the limit on ARP studs? never thought about it before.
      makes sense why my buddy keeps poping heads past 550whp
      on what set up?
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      09-23-2011 12:35 PM #413
      turbo 16v. 9a... not 06a.

    14. 09-27-2011 10:22 AM #414
      For those building this setup, I have a brand new in the box set of ARP head studs required for this setup for sale. I had ordered another set which arrived yesterday, but I've decided to go another route with mine.

      $150

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      10-01-2011 10:18 AM #415
      Quote Originally Posted by Issam Abed View Post
      AEG pistons are crap...I highly doubt they would last very long in a boosted application.

      Hit 2 birds with 1 stone. Not only did I promise a 16V bottom end but also an aluminum one
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      11-23-2011 01:07 PM #417
      [QUOTE=Jolf3;67725341]Just to let you know if there are people who wanted to use the AEG block (the one without oil squiter) for not having to machined the 9A pistons, forget it, the piston in the number 4 cylinder does not clear the 60-2 tooth wheel.
      I have try it.

      planned on using aeg, can anyone else verify. what can i do to make my 9a pistons not hit?

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      11-23-2011 02:34 PM #418
      Quote Originally Posted by jjensen View Post
      planned on using aeg, can anyone else verify. what can i do to make my 9a pistons not hit?
      Take an AEG piston with you to a machine shop and show them your 9A pistons. They should be able to figure out the rest.
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      11-23-2011 05:52 PM #419
      i guess my real question is will the pistons in your kit clear?

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      11-23-2011 05:57 PM #420
      Quote Originally Posted by jjensen View Post
      i guess my real question is will the pistons in your kit clear?
      If you order the pistons from us they will have the correct clearance for 06A oil squirters.

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      11-23-2011 07:17 PM #421
      they will work for an aeg block then correct?

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      11-23-2011 08:24 PM #422
      What is the aluminum VW block?
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      11-24-2011 12:58 AM #423
      Might have missed this but.....

      With a 16v head, will you get low compression just like using an ABA block? Gonna be building a 16vT and this info on this block caught my eye.
      Last edited by Turbo3; 11-24-2011 at 01:07 AM.

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      11-24-2011 01:58 AM #424
      Quote Originally Posted by jjensen View Post
      they will work for an aeg block then correct?
      yes.
      Quote Originally Posted by Turbo3 View Post
      Might have missed this but.....

      With a 16v head, will you get low compression just like using an ABA block? Gonna be building a 16vT and this info on this block caught my eye.
      both the 9A and the AZG/AEG have a 220mm deck height
      whatever CR you had in your 9A motor you will have in your AZG.

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      11-24-2011 09:34 PM #425
      Quote Originally Posted by Issam Abed View Post
      yes.

      both the 9A and the AZG/AEG have a 220mm deck height
      whatever CR you had in your 9A motor you will have in your AZG.
      That's with the stock AZG/AEG pistons too right?

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