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      06-18-2012 07:28 PM #376
      Should have just gone to see Marc.. :p

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      06-18-2012 08:32 PM #377
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      06-18-2012 09:26 PM #378
      Quote Originally Posted by schwartzmagic View Post
      Should have just gone to see Marc.. :p

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      i tried, he said i'd need maestro in order for him to tune my car. i dont want maestro so thats that
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      06-19-2012 11:11 PM #379
      The ECU finally showed up today. 5 days for express mail I put the ECU back in the car, but haven't driven it yet. I've been having too much fun w/ vtec I'll take the jet to work in the morning, i want to see this VVT work
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      06-20-2012 11:30 AM #380
      Quote Originally Posted by Big_Tom View Post
      The ECU finally showed up today. 5 days for express mail I put the ECU back in the car, but haven't driven it yet. I've been having too much fun w/ vtec I'll take the jet to work in the morning, i want to see this VVT work
      Vtec? VVT = very vtec.

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      06-20-2012 12:47 PM #381
      Quote Originally Posted by gdoggmoney View Post
      Vtec? VVT = very vtec.
      ummm, i just got done driving the car... some of the missing torque is def back car feels way lighter on its feet even out of boost. it's raining here so i didn't get to play too much, part throttle on this file is way better than the last. It still wont idle smoothly so now i'm pretty much sold on gettin some better injectors.

      my advice is don't buy siemens 630cc injectors if you don't have a tuner near you who can personally tune your car. get a better injector from the get and don't worry about idle issues. i have a feeling if i throw 550's and a 4bar fpr on it will idle like its supposed to
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    7. 06-20-2012 12:52 PM #382
      Quote Originally Posted by Big_Tom View Post
      ummm, i just got done driving the car... some of the missing torque is def back car feels way lighter on its feet even out of boost. it's raining here so i didn't get to play too much, part throttle on this file is way better than the last. It still wont idle smoothly so now i'm pretty much sold on gettin some better injectors.

      my advice is don't buy siemens 630cc injectors if you don't have a tuner near you who can personally tune your car. get a better injector from the get and don't worry about idle issues. i have a feeling if i throw 550's and a 4bar fpr on it will idle like its supposed to
      glad you finally got it. have to see if i still have idle issues once mines all back together

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      06-20-2012 01:16 PM #383
      Quote Originally Posted by Big_Tom View Post
      ummm, i just got done driving the car... some of the missing torque is def back car feels way lighter on its feet even out of boost. it's raining here so i didn't get to play too much, part throttle on this file is way better than the last. It still wont idle smoothly so now i'm pretty much sold on gettin some better injectors.

      my advice is don't buy siemens 630cc injectors if you don't have a tuner near you who can personally tune your car. get a better injector from the get and don't worry about idle issues. i have a feeling if i throw 550's and a 4bar fpr on it will idle like its supposed to
      Tom, you're 100% correct.


      630's vary drastically. I'm waiting on a component for my scopemeter so I can measure dead times, opening times and basically scope injectors at idle.

      i have 2 sets of 630's so 8 injectors worth of variance.

      That's not getting into what they spit out at < 2ms pulse. The UNI tune has a minimum pulsewidth of 1.5ms which is .2ms below the acceptable range for a 630 published.

      That's assuming at 1.7ms they operate properly...... which I think they don't, or if they do the stars aligned and you got a lucky set.

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      06-20-2012 01:24 PM #384
      Quote Originally Posted by weenerdog3443 View Post
      glad you finally got it. have to see if i still have idle issues once mines all back together


      Quote Originally Posted by gdoggmoney View Post
      Tom, you're 100% correct.


      630's vary drastically. I'm waiting on a component for my scopemeter so I can measure dead times, opening times and basically scope injectors at idle.

      i have 2 sets of 630's so 8 injectors worth of variance.

      That's not getting into what they spit out at < 2ms pulse. The UNI tune has a minimum pulsewidth of 1.5ms which is .2ms below the acceptable range for a 630 published.

      That's assuming at 1.7ms they operate properly...... which I think they don't, or if they do the stars aligned and you got a lucky set.
      i'm interested to see what you can find out about this. that bumpy idle problem has been plaguing me for about 2.5 yrs, i'm about ready to solve that problem permanently
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      06-21-2012 11:54 PM #385
      how are you gonna solve that idle problem?

      My car with the maestro 550cc file runs good (not so good cold starts) with an OE felling Idle. started it up this morning and I get the "bumpy" idle. My Boost/vac gauge would show 1619mmHg...

      Its sporadic so I donno...

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      06-22-2012 12:07 AM #386
      Quote Originally Posted by rodgertherabit View Post
      how are you gonna solve that idle problem?

      My car with the maestro 550cc file runs good (not so good cold starts) with an OE felling Idle. started it up this morning and I get the "bumpy" idle. My Boost/vac gauge would show 1619mmHg...

      Its sporadic so I donno...

      ^^^ I'm gonna buy some 550cc bosch injectors and a 4 bar fpr soon.
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      06-22-2012 07:10 AM #387
      does maestro let you fiddle with injector latency ?
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      06-22-2012 10:05 AM #388
      Quote Originally Posted by Big_Tom View Post
      ^^^ I'm gonna buy some 550cc bosch injectors and a 4 bar fpr soon.
      Don't bother.

      Get EV14's. They come in higher flow rates and they are standard on the new 2.5l cars.

      My MKVI has them. They are nice injectors and better tolerances than siemens. There's no point staying 550 when an EV14 comes in 725+ sizes.

      If you get anything else, Injector Dynamics 725's have the BEST spray pattern for a multivalve.......


      Yes I have been seriously seriously investigating this. Look at the video for the ID725 spray pattern on youtube.

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      06-22-2012 10:28 AM #389
      I had the EXACT same problem, had the 630's, worst idle ever, bucked in first gear like crazy... tried everything from vacuum leaks to exhaust leaks, countless reflashes with maestro, can
      timing, blah blah blah... changed to 550's, car runs perfect again
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      06-22-2012 01:34 PM #390
      Quote Originally Posted by ejg3855 View Post
      does maestro let you fiddle with injector latency ?
      prolly, but i dont have it and dont want it

      Quote Originally Posted by gdoggmoney View Post
      Don't bother.

      Get EV14's. They come in higher flow rates and they are standard on the new 2.5l cars.

      My MKVI has them. They are nice injectors and better tolerances than siemens. There's no point staying 550 when an EV14 comes in 725+ sizes.

      If you get anything else, Injector Dynamics 725's have the BEST spray pattern for a multivalve.......


      Yes I have been seriously seriously investigating this. Look at the video for the ID725 spray pattern on youtube.
      i thought about getting the ev14 725cc, but i just got my ecu back after a buncha bull$hit. I love this new file Arnold gave me, I got lots of midrange back. I'm gonna go with 550cc and a 4 bar fpr so i can keep the same tune.

      Quote Originally Posted by mk4boost View Post
      I had the EXACT same problem, had the 630's, worst idle ever, bucked in first gear like crazy... tried everything from vacuum leaks to exhaust leaks, countless reflashes with maestro, can
      timing, blah blah blah... changed to 550's, car runs perfect again
      so are you running 550cc now or 630cc? your sig says 630cc
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      06-22-2012 03:11 PM #391
      Quote Originally Posted by Big_Tom View Post
      so are you running 550cc now or 630cc? your sig says 630cc
      I'm on the 550's, I forgot to change it
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      06-22-2012 07:53 PM #392
      Quote Originally Posted by mk4boost View Post
      I'm on the 550's, I forgot to change it
      change it already!
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      06-23-2012 08:28 PM #393
      Quote Originally Posted by Big_Tom View Post
      change it already!
      ugh, too many clicks, then typing... I'll get around to it haha
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      06-23-2012 10:10 PM #394
      Quote Originally Posted by mk4boost View Post
      ugh, too many clicks, then typing... I'll get around to it haha
      l-a-z-y lol
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      06-24-2012 08:44 PM #395
      Quote Originally Posted by Big_Tom View Post
      l-a-z-y lol
      alriiiiiiight you convinced me haha... hows everything running? big difference with the vvt file?
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      06-24-2012 08:56 PM #396
      Quote Originally Posted by mk4boost View Post
      alriiiiiiight you convinced me haha... hows everything running? big difference with the vvt file?
      The new VVT file is the $hit. The car runs better than ever now. Much more midrange power on and off boost. I'm just waiting to buy those 550's so i can have a good idle now
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    22. 06-24-2012 09:38 PM #397
      Quote Originally Posted by Big_Tom View Post
      The new VVT file is the $hit. The car runs better than ever now. Much more midrange power on and off boost. I'm just waiting to buy those 550's so i can have a good idle now
      wonder if I can download a file of it for maestro

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      06-24-2012 10:06 PM #398
      Quote Originally Posted by weenerdog3443 View Post
      wonder if I can download a file of it for maestro
      its one of the base files available in maestro
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      06-25-2012 07:17 AM #399
      Quote Originally Posted by weenerdog3443 View Post
      wonder if I can download a file of it for maestro
      you probably can. If you have maestro, see if Arnold @ Pagparts can send it to you

      Quote Originally Posted by xxsur3shotxx View Post
      its one of the base files available in maestro
      true, it prob is there too. I don't have maestro tho so i couldnt do it that way
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      06-25-2012 09:14 AM #400
      Quote Originally Posted by xxsur3shotxx View Post
      its one of the base files available in maestro
      they're available for everyone now with maestro
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