2871R or 50 Trim

[DK_GTI_racer]

Quote, originally posted by Big_Tom »

i was trying not to switch to external wg because i have never used them before. and i dont like the idea of them making my car loud as hell. even if i did switch to external wg, i'd still have my dump tube put back into the downpipe

Hi Big tom, im at 320+whp so far at 19-20psi on a small GT28RS turbo, its a lot of fun and im going to see if 340-350whp is possible very soon, but durable and possible it is, and even more with a GT2871r of course, but if your end goal is 320-350whp then the route i have taken is fun and possible, but expensive as well...

[bjtgtr]

The 2871R is a great turbo. My old Pag Parts setup made 332whp and 321wtq @23psi on pump gas, stock AWP head and intake manifold, using a Eurodyne 630 file. Only put a set of IE rods in it. Motor and turbo have over 28,000 miles on them now and are now in my brother in laws 2004 A4 Q. We have meth on his set up now and that car screams! the response is great and recovery between shifts is top notch. The turbo is a T25 GT2871R .64 internally gated. I can't comment on the 50 trim as I have never had an oppertunity to use one.

[transient_analysis]

Quote, originally posted by 20aeman »

DBB will take me 30 minutes to install anyways, when this thing eats it.

Isn't the DBB 50 trim a water cooled center section?

maybe I'm a whiny little biotch, but going from -not- running water lines on the 50 trim to running -an hardlines for the water feed/return on a 3076 turned out to be a pain in my butt.. and took much longer than 30 minutes

I used to be able to swap out exhaust housings in ~ 30 minutes on the old 50 trim though I'm sure you can too

[cincyTT]

they do come water cooled

[zaberayx]

I made 379whp on a 50trim and 346torque at 23 PSI its a great turbo. The only thing is in between shifts. I have Meth as well and its 5 degree advanced without issues...

[Big_Tom]

Just So The World Knows, I Went 50 Trim... no dyno numbers yet but hopefully soon


Modified by Big_Tom at 11:56 AM 2-21-2010

[HidRo]

And how does it run?

[jc_bb]

Quote, originally posted by Big_Tom »

Just So The World Knows, I Went 50 Trim... no dyno numbers yet but hopefully soon Modified by Big_Tom at 11:56 AM 2-21-2010

Ha Ha...all those 2871 recommendations and you went 50trim anyway.
get some dynos up

[Big_Tom]

Haha I'm working in getting a clutch now. The. Stock one definitely is not holding the power. Other than that I have a communication problem with my ecu. I have been trying to figure it out for weeks now. Nobodys vagcom or scanners will connect to it. I will dyno and hit the track with the homie Blu Pearl when I get these issues sorted out.


Modified by Big_Tom at 7:51 AM 3-25-2010

[TheZooKeeper]

Ball bearings and external gates!!!!!

[Big_Tom]

Ball bearings and external gates!!!!!

I def love the Tial 38mm, its reliable and hasnt given me a problem since day 1.
journal bearing is str8. every intake mod i do seems to help the 50 trim spool better. as it sits right now with no exhaust leaks and a better intercooler, boost comes on nice. after i get the bottom end squared away and the abd intake mani on theres a possiblilty i may get a Garrett DBB 50 trim just because So far the setup has been reliable, I've got around 40 to 45k miles on it daily driven

[Big_Tom]

As it sits right now























^^My turbo is on the left

[Big_Tom]

Couple More "in depth" pics

CAI FTW







Under The Intake Mani





Big Ups to Forge Motorsports







pic of my "hose to the floor"







oil return line

[One-Eight GTI]

Your oil pan looks brand new, Which one is that?? ECS hybrid??? Gonna get a hybrid for next summer when engine is out, Too many close calls with my factory oil pan

[Big_Tom]

Your oil pan looks brand new, Which one is that?? ECS hybrid??? Gonna get a hybrid for next summer when engine is out, Too many close calls with my factory oil pan

^^^ Thanks It's the ECS hybrid pan and is 2 years old now It's an awesome pan especially for $79

[One-Eight GTI]

Nice thanks Tom, gonna be getting one of those... Stinkin Florida, my wifes 2009 2.0T Jetta oil pan doesn't even look that good, damn winters

[Big_Tom]

Nice thanks Tom, gonna be getting one of those... Stinkin Florida, my wifes 2009 2.0T Jetta oil pan doesn't even look that good, damn winters

ahaha, yeh it was 76 degrees here today

[Big_Tom]

I'm gonna be doing coolant ball and washer fluid reservoir deletes very soon as well as relocating the PS reservoir. Picked up a couple goodies today. I ordered the Moroso filler neck on Fri so it should be here soon. Hopefully I'll be able to throw up some new pics of a cleaner bay soon

[Twopnt016v]

I def love the Tial 38mm, its reliable and hasnt given me a problem since day 1.
journal bearing is str8. every intake mod i do seems to help the 50 trim spool better. as it sits right now with no exhaust leaks and a better intercooler, boost comes on nice. after i get the bottom end squared away and the abd intake mani on theres a possiblilty i may get a Garrett DBB 50 trim just because So far the setup has been reliable, I've got around 40 to 45k miles on it daily driven

Hopefully ABD is making those intake manifolds better. I took mine off and both of the ears had broken off from where the flange obviously want straight. I talked to abd and they said this was common and you can send it back to them and they will have it repaired(at a cost of course). The AIT sensor hole is oversized so it leaks. The 4 holes for the throttle body were drilled by a retard so they aren't straight and the tbody won't go on there unless you hollow out the holes on the tbody...
Here are some pics of the broken ears...


This is as close as the throttle body will get to the manifold with the bolts threaded into the holes...
The holes were drilled crooked...


Here is the manifold in the oven after welding the ears back on and powdercoating

[Big_Tom]

wooooow , yeaaa i'll probably just have one custom made. i dont want to go driver side TB or i would get SEM. I'll have to see what Pagparts can do about this when the time comes

[Twopnt016v]

yeah...very disappointing

[Big_Tom]

^^^ i appreciate the heads up tho

[Big_Tom]

yeah...very disappointing

how long have you had this thing btw?

I might have to show some love to the FL guys

http://uspmotorsports.com/product_in...roducts_id=819

[Cryser]

For a daily driver with those goals get a T3 flanged GT2871r .63 A/R

the old T series turbo don't give as good a response in the mid range as the GT series do and that really where a street car lives.

[Big_Tom]

For a daily driver with those goals get a T3 flanged GT2871r .63 A/R

the old T series turbo don't give as good a response in the mid range as the GT series do and that really where a street car lives.

ur a lil late tho 50 trim FTW

[Big_Tom]

I managed to pull off the coolant ball and washer fluid reservoir deletes this weekend I love how the bay looks now. I actually finished last night since my water distribution pipe cracked after i got the car back together and test drove it. I had improvise w/ another OEM vw/audi pc I pulled from LKQ on sunday. No problems w/ overheating today on the drive to UCF. To get the air out of the cooling system, I let the car warm up fully w/ hood open and rad cap off. Put cap on went for a short drive 1/2 mile or so up the street and back just to get the water pump spinning, parked car back in my garage until this morning and topped off the coolant again this morning before i left it took quite a bit more water this morning even tho it appeared to be full last night before the test drive. i expected this, hence the 2 part fill up) I'll throw up a few more pics this afternoon

[HidRo]

So, pics of that?
And what about a dyno? Have you done any? Do you know how much you are putting down?

[Big_Tom]

So, pics of that?
And what about a dyno? Have you done any? Do you know how much you are putting down?

yes i've been to the dyno before, but not recently(summer 2010). put down 298whp running hella rich on low boost. i'm in the 330-340whp range now on ~22 psi if i had to guess.

[HidRo]

Sounds healthy
Do you have any videos of it?

[Big_Tom]

yea i do, look at cts turbo's facebook page one of them is on there

[HidRo]

The tinypic one? I think that's the one. If so, looking good

[Big_Tom]

yup, the tiny pic one is mine. and i fell asleep when i got home so pics will have to be tomorrow

[Big_Tom]

also, i've been dealing with this foolishness for the past week after i get a new downpipe i'll hop back on the dyno. i think the car is ready now other than that. i suspect mine has a hairline crack somewhere around the flange from before when I didn't have mounts

http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthrea...1#post75540293

[Mindfault]

****tttttg. Ttt

[Big_Tom]

yea i do, look at cts turbo's facebook page one of them is on there

The tinypic one? I think that's the one. If so, looking good

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