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    Thread: Time to give the old bucket some love......

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      09-22-2009 04:46 AM #1
      Well... My Corrado is been out of comission long enough... and since I have a couple of bucks I figured I'll try to make it a daily driver again....
      I am gonna put in an ABA OBD2 engine in..
      I was sick of messing with the POS California Digi-crap... so I figure I could swap an ABA for cheap.. maybe turbo it later of slap a 16v head and a turbo I got laying around...
      but for now I need it to move....(by its own power, since I am tired of pushing it.)

      Some pics...

      After a little while at the VAG-CAVE..

      VR SEX in the house...

      My GF trying to remove the old wiring harness....
      (i've never done this before by the way...)


      We pulled the engine the other night... no biggie here...

      just a cool pix...

      And I finally got the damn fuse box out.. what a pain in the ass...


      Also removed the ABS.. I was sick of looking at it...
      The Engine bay is clear of wires now...

      Plans for tomorrow...

      Pressure Clean the engine bay... (never done that either)
      Before and after pics soon to come.....
      May paint it flat black... or Aqua blue pearl again???? dont know yet...

      I May swap in a mk4 shifter box and cables....
      And I gotta figure out what fan setup I am gonna run this time... gotta have AC in Florida...

      By the way... I am gonna be having a lot of questions since I have never gone in soo deep in the corrado so far...




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      09-22-2009 07:14 AM #2
      I feel your pain with the fusebox. Has to be the biggest cluster f#ck mess.

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      09-22-2009 07:24 AM #3
      Cool bro, good luck with the project

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      09-22-2009 08:11 AM #4
      why did you take out the whole fusebox?
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      09-22-2009 08:39 AM #5
      Quote, originally posted by dogger »
      I feel your pain with the fusebox. Has to be the biggest cluster f#ck mess.

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      09-22-2009 01:46 PM #6
      yeah.. that fuse box was a royal pain in the ass...
      Even my GF said that it made no sense how the damn harness was all attached to other harnesses... for no reason....
      We had to cut a buch of ramdon wires just to pull it off.
      even had to cut crap to get the damn ABS computer and harness out...
      I think the only think I kept.. was the wiper harness... oh well...

      Quote, originally posted by pileofredparts »
      why did you take out the whole fusebox?

      Because If you see the rat nest that is the damn fuse box, you would understand...
      I tried originally to remove just the engine harness(bay area) wires.. but after a while of cursing and fighting and seeing that unless I where to de-pin the whole think, it was gonna be impossible..
      Either way.. I wasnt gonna reuse the stock harness. so.. who cares.

      Also the inside wires.. I can re-plug in with the bentley.. I think/hope.


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      09-22-2009 03:29 PM #7
      Quote, originally posted by xtremevdub »
      yeah.. that fuse box was a royal pain in the ass...
      Even my GF said that it made no sense how the damn harness was all attached to other harnesses... for no reason....
      We had to cut a buch of ramdon wires just to pull it off.
      even had to cut crap to get the damn ABS computer and harness out...
      I think the only think I kept.. was the wiper harness... oh well...

      Because If you see the rat nest that is the damn fuse box, you would understand...
      I tried originally to remove just the engine harness(bay area) wires.. but after a while of cursing and fighting and seeing that unless I where to de-pin the whole think, it was gonna be impossible..
      Either way.. I wasnt gonna reuse the stock harness. so.. who cares.

      Also the inside wires.. I can re-plug in with the bentley.. I think/hope.

      CE2 is the easiest fuse block I have ever delt with. And you can get the entire harness in and out of the car without de-pinning, or cutting anything. Remember the connectors that are in the fuse block get pushed out of the bay not bay into the car.

      Please dont rattle can the bay black...

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      09-22-2009 03:37 PM #8
      dam dude that could have been way easier but at least now you might as well fix the drain problems you know you have. and good job landing that girl, im worried when my girl plugs in a toaster.

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      09-22-2009 04:23 PM #9
      Quote, originally posted by Nuzzi »
      im worried when my girl plugs in a toaster.

      Mine just trips UP stairs... she is normally ok with a toaster though.

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      09-22-2009 04:43 PM #10
      Great that your giving it life again!!

      Dont paint it flat black... !!!!

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    11. 09-22-2009 04:52 PM #11
      keep it the stock colour....not many of us still around

      aqua blue pearl FTW


    12. 09-22-2009 04:56 PM #12
      do werk. but i have to agree with these ^ guys.....dont paint it.

    13. 09-22-2009 05:06 PM #13
      VW fuse boxes + sh1tty location = FAIL

      Sorry I had to vent. I'm to this day still trying to figure out why VW decides to put them in the most PITA places. Why not just bury the damn thing behind the dash so you have to pull it every time you blow a fuse. I swear it must have been "Bring your child to work day" when they went about installing them in the foot well there... Anyway looks good keep it up and keep the color as well.


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      09-22-2009 05:24 PM #14
      I could give a rats ass if you painted the whole bay pink.


      As long as it is clean, tidy, and you know where everything is and have access to it.

      Function > Form


      I know your not afraid to improve accessibility and serviceability through the relocating of parts like wiring looms, power steering lines, reservoirs, ect....
      Just be creative.


      I have some ideas
      Some of them we are going to do to my vrt

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      09-22-2009 06:02 PM #15
      Quote, originally posted by TheBurninator »

      CE2 is the easiest fuse block I have ever delt with. And you can get the entire harness in and out of the car without de-pinning, or cutting anything. Remember the connectors that are in the fuse block get pushed out of the bay not bay into the car.

      Please dont rattle can the bay black...

      Well... getting the harness out of the MK3 was easy as pie (no cutting of any sort necessary)... they have different harnesses for different things...
      on the 91 corrado.. the wiper..headlights.. abs... and other crap are tied into each other.. and somewhat braided

      Oh.. BTW.. I kind of like the rattle can engine bay look...
      may be something like this...


      Quote, originally posted by -:VW:- »
      VW fuse boxes + sh1tty location = FAIL

      Sorry I had to vent. I'm to this day still trying to figure out why VW decides to put them in the most PITA places. Why not just bury the damn thing behind the dash so you have to pull it every time you blow a fuse. I swear it must have been "Bring your child to work day" when they went about installing them in the foot well there... Anyway looks good keep it up and keep the color as well.


      Im with this guy ^^^^

      Quote, originally posted by VR SEX »
      I could give a rats ass if you painted the whole bay pink.


      As long as it is clean, tidy, and you know where everything is and have access to it.

      Function > Form


      I know your not afraid to improve accessibility and serviceability through the relocating of parts like wiring looms, power steering lines, reservoirs, ect....
      Just be creative.


      I have some ideas
      Some of them we are going to do to my vrt

      Well.. this is the point of the whole going over the car..
      The PS lines will get modded.... The Fans are NOT gonna be stock.. and will be Straight.. not sideways like factory... All the wires are gonna get looked over...
      And Like you all know.. I am not affraid of cutting a Corrado...

      To the guy that gave me props on the GF..
      she doesnt know much, but she is willing to learn!


      Moar pics from a couple of days ago.......


      The Corrado should have been Rear wheel drive..

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      09-22-2009 06:10 PM #16
      the Mk3 harness actually has the lights tied in with the engine harness.

      The corrado has lights and acc seperate from the engine harness. To each his own though...

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      09-22-2009 06:14 PM #17
      Quote, originally posted by TheBurninator »
      the Mk3 harness actually has the lights tied in with the engine harness.

      The corrado has lights and acc seperate from the engine harness. To each his own though...

      the MK3 also has a plug... a la VR6 style.. making things a breeze..
      and My California Corrado harness is a bitch.. may be the regular ones are easier.. I wouldnt know.

      Oh.. and I'll also be moddin' the Headlights.. I been wanting to get a go at them since I got them new...


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    18. 09-22-2009 09:58 PM #18
      your factory paint color makes up for your buddies god awful gary busey looking shirt
      change the shirt, not the paint color

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      09-22-2009 11:10 PM #19
      Quote, originally posted by dapucker1 »

      change the shirt, not the paint color

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      09-23-2009 02:37 PM #20
      Quote, originally posted by dapucker1 »
      your factory paint color makes up for your buddies god awful gary busey looking shirt
      change the shirt, not the paint color

      bwahahahahahah!! and the funniest thing is that he actually when looking for another one just like his so he can buy it for me and whe could look like Hawaiian mechanics!!!! hahahaha..
      Thank god I am bigger than him.!
      then again.. for 2.99$ is not that bad...


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      09-24-2009 01:12 AM #21
      Small update..
      I didnt do much at all today..
      But I did get a Freebie from Markcorrado1........Thank you man!



      Nothing beats getting free head!!!! hahahahah!

      I am gonna need another motor mount.. I wonder if the MK3 ones would work....


      Anyone knows if I can use MK3 AC lines onto the corrado thing on the left?


      I'll check the head tomorrow and get a HG kit... If I can pick a block up tomorrow at the yard.. I should be set.. all I am missing is an ECU..
      and to put it all back together....

      Anyone know how much the front bumper NA. weights with the fogs and turns??? mine seems to weight a ton!!!!
      And I am thinking of cutting stuff...

      Tomorrow SR Karmann is coming to The Vag-cave for some corrado love.. and is bringing a pressure cleaner.. lets see how the bay is gonna end up looking like... worth case.. .we do have a guy that can paint for us for free...


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      09-25-2009 04:01 PM #22
      Not much progress yesterday... we had a visitor (SR Karmann).... and we put the PSS on his whip.... pics...

      We did the supension work while the GF pressure cleanned the engine bay on my Corrado...


      Tonight.. I dont know if to go and try to clean some more or actually start with the paint process....


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      09-25-2009 04:40 PM #23
      If you are planning to use the mk3 a/c compressor you have to change the hoses too. fittings are different on the hoses from the g60. the expansion valve is different too. all of the a/c stuff for the mk3 is like the vr corrado.

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      09-25-2009 04:50 PM #24
      Yep, you would either have to change to the Vr evap, condenser, Mk3 lines, etc, etc.. or you can get a hybrid A/C lines made up from Napa to go from the G60 stuff to the mk3 compressor.

      You best bet, would be to leave everything G60 including the compressor.

      - and the Mk3 motor mount will not work, it is like the Vr. Go with the mk2 non-hydro mount and metal bracket using your G60 rear AL engine brkt. Cheaper and better all around!


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      09-25-2009 04:54 PM #25
      Quote, originally posted by dogger »
      If you are planning to use the mk3 a/c compressor you have to change the hoses too. fittings are different on the hoses from the g60. the expansion valve is different too. all of the a/c stuff for the mk3 is like the vr corrado.

      By the expasion valve.. do you mean this?
      http://i38.photobucket.com/alb...1.jpg

      I was wondering how difficult it is to remove just that part and swap it for a nicer one. so my new hoses match.

      Well.. I was thinking that.. Because I hate how the G60 routes one AC line by the headers and the other one is ugly as sin..

      On the Mk3's are way smaller, and more out of the way..
      Also was thinking about a B3 passat.. they seem to be nicer as well...

      Any one as a pic of a Passat?


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      09-25-2009 05:21 PM #26
      yes that is the expansion valve.
      this is the mk3 expansion valve>
      http://www.germanautoparts.com.../84/2

      also if you notice the back of the compressor the g60 and mk3 fittings are opposite. the g60 has male fittings on the compressor and the mk3 has female.

      you may also have to change the evaporator too. it connects the the expansion valve on the inside of the firewall.


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      09-26-2009 01:56 PM #27
      Quote, originally posted by sdezego »
      Yep, you would either have to change to the Vr evap, condenser, Mk3 lines, etc, etc.. or you can get a hybrid A/C lines made up from Napa to go from the G60 stuff to the mk3 compressor.

      You best bet, would be to leave everything G60 including the compressor.

      - and the Mk3 motor mount will not work, it is like the Vr. Go with the mk2 non-hydro mount and metal bracket using your G60 rear AL engine brkt. Cheaper and better all around!

      I never knew that Napa would make you hybrid lines!!! thats sweet!!!
      Either way... do you guys know if the G60 compressor would mount on the Accesories bracket on the ABA motor?
      I know the Power steering pump should go in no problem and I already have an ABA alternator that I was running on my PG motor..

      Great advise on the mk2 motor mount.. that takes care of that problem.

      I dont plan on using a VW condensor at all.. so the lines may have to be custom anyways.. and the radiator... so far may come from a ford Focus with fan assembly and all...

      I just discovered that a job that I wanned to work at and had a damn good hook up.. is a no go...
      So I dont know if I am gonna have too much money to play.. this sucks.

      Quote, originally posted by dogger »
      yes that is the expansion valve.
      this is the mk3 expansion valve>
      http://www.germanautoparts.com.../84/2

      also if you notice the back of the compressor the g60 and mk3 fittings are opposite. the g60 has male fittings on the compressor and the mk3 has female.

      you may also have to change the evaporator too. it connects the the expansion valve on the inside of the firewall.

      damn.. that sucks.. I am gonna try to remove the expansion valve on the junk yard on a mk2 and 3 to see if the can be swaped...
      Because that would save me a whole lot of trouble and a lot of japanese car makers use the VR style fittings and is easier for me to find... and better all around.

      Thanks for the help guys.. off to the Vag-cave..........


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      09-26-2009 09:11 PM #28
      I was able to fit a G60 compressor onto a ABA bracket on my 9A. I did a ABA serpentine swap on it and used a VR alternator, G60 compressor, and G60 power steering pump. The only tricky part was the compressors are bolted differently. The G60 uses allen bolts that thread into the compressor body where the ABA compressor has long hex bolts that go all the way through the compressor and thread at the back side.

      I mounted my G60 compressor by getting long hex bolts and locking nuts. Worked out well.

      This is how the G60 compressor looks on my ABA bracket. I had to shave the lower part of the ABA bracket to fit the G60 power steering pump but just a little.


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      09-26-2009 11:03 PM #29
      Quote, originally posted by dogger »
      I was able to fit a G60 compressor onto a ABA bracket on my 9A. I did a ABA serpentine swap on it and used a VR alternator, G60 compressor, and G60 power steering pump.

      Man that looks pretty bad ass.. but What are you doing for AC hoses...???
      I was thinking of having a clean (not fully shaved) engine bay.. but I cant stand the AC hose that goes on the back of the headers and in between the engine/trans.

      I'll keep the G60 compressor for now.. since mine was working when I pulled it.


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      09-27-2009 12:24 AM #30
      I polished the metal lines and put Techflex loom over the hose part that goes over the transmission. The A/C stuff is pretty crappy looking but I think for where you live and where I live its not realistic to delete it.

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      10-02-2009 02:34 PM #31
      Personally the polished metal lines look killer and without the wiring mess the bay still is functional and looks great
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    32. 10-04-2009 11:59 AM #32
      I must say your engine bay looks 1000% better after your GF finished pressure washing it. When you get the A/C straightened out, let me know. I'll need to follow your lead because I have one G60 line that is completely rust city. It's the one tucked into the unibody between the compressor and the expansion valve.


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      10-04-2009 01:17 PM #33
      This is cool
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      A true built car is one in which the owner alone has done its work intirely!
      Not had a shop build the motor,Not had a shop paint it ,Not had a upolster do the interior,Not just supplied money for work of any kind for the vehicle!
      According to this guy no one builds cars.

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      10-05-2009 05:13 PM #34
      Quick updates....

      have been working on the car a good amount... with the help of some friends.. but I am kind of broke so the project may go a liltte slower than expected....

      I finally got the tranny cleaned....

      Before..

      After....


      Thats what a pressure cleaner would do to the tranny

      Also.. I always had a problem with the radiator location on the Corrado...
      I never liked that it was actually slanted... so I needed a solution because I am gonna eventually go turbo and I'll need a decent place to mount my FMI... so we started like this....

      then went and got me one of these....

      Passat B3 16v rad support...

      Did some cutting with the grinder....

      GREEN is where you need to cut it... Red is where you should drill a hole so you can reuse the 13mm bolt that holds the cross member when the bumpers are out.

      then Cleaned tons of other parts with some diesel fuel..

      and I think I am gonna mount the Battery here...

      Not too sure yet... Also gotta come up the a place where to mount my new custom wiper water reservoir.... and the PS fluid res....

      Thanks for all the nice comments... the AC lines would have to wait for now..... I may go full aeroquipped lines like I did on my old GTi... but my cash is super low now...



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      10-05-2009 05:49 PM #35
      aeroquip hydrolic lines?? the soft ones?
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