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    1. 10-08-2009 07:31 PM #1
      wat are the differences if any between the 04 r32 engine and 05+ touareg 3.2 its not an fsi motor. other then oil pan and valve cover are these 2 motors idenical. block for block is it all the same. i blew the motor in my r32 and found a mint touareg motor but i need to know if there ANY difference between the 2.
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    2. 10-09-2009 01:09 PM #2
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      10-14-2009 01:28 PM #3
      DAMN- I WISH I KNEW!!! but! an 04 r32 body with a touarag swap AWD would be dope [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]
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    4. 10-19-2009 08:31 PM #4
      i would say pick up the block code off of the tourag and compate it to the block code on your r32 motor. also calling any dealership is helpful. i have asked them similar questions reguarding coil packs and they were the same

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      10-20-2009 12:09 PM #5
      if you call Montesi VW in North Haven, CT The "service consultant" will say What is an R32, is that a new model?

      But that would be pretty cool
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    6. 11-12-2009 08:17 AM #6
      the lower cam chain cover is different and will prevent you from fitting an 02A gearbox without modifying it, or replacing it with an r32 cover.
      I have "heard" that the cams are much milder, and thus better for forced induction, but i don't have anything to confirm this.

    7. 11-12-2009 04:03 PM #7
      touareg block is missing three engine mounth holes on the passenger side of the block.

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      11-12-2009 04:21 PM #8
      Quote, originally posted by phatvr6 »
      the lower cam chain cover is different and will prevent you from fitting an 02A gearbox without modifying it, or replacing it with an r32 cover.
      I have "heard" that the cams are much milder, and thus better for forced induction, but i don't have anything to confirm this.

      The lower cover is different but still clears the 02A. Not sure about the cams though.
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      01-23-2010 05:53 PM #9
      i think ones AWD Stock the r32 and the is a Crossover with AWD to the r32 better by far because the cross overs have alot of emission control crap causing lose in power
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    10. 01-25-2010 11:57 AM #10
      Quote, originally posted by Mk3TG »
      i think ones AWD Stock the r32 and the is a Crossover with AWD to the r32 better by far because the cross overs have alot of emission control crap causing lose in power

      WTF? Is this even english?
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      01-25-2010 12:47 PM #11
      no no
      R32 is far faster it doesnt have as many emission contro, factors that take away from the performance factor
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      the touareg 3.2 a similar engine but has alot of factors that take away from its power the emssion control factor in crossovers because newer car require it dont use all the power they can because of the limitaion of factors to keep it on the road
      bother are very similar blocks
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      01-25-2010 02:19 PM #12
      That small power difference could be in tuning, exhaust differences, intake manifold, etc. I truly believe the long blocks are the same.
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    13. 02-02-2016 09:34 AM #13
      Quote Originally Posted by RedDevil View Post
      touareg block is missing three engine mounth holes on the passenger side of the block.
      Resurrecting old thread.. I'm looking for confirmation of the above. I don't car about tune, cams, etc.. My plan is to find a short block to rebuild for boost without the down time on my R. So the missing engine mount holes on the block would rule out the Touareg 3.2. Searching online 04 R32 motor go for twice the price as 04 3.2 Touareg motors.

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      02-02-2016 10:44 AM #14
      Quote Originally Posted by zippy_109 View Post
      Resurrecting old thread.. I'm looking for confirmation of the above. I don't car about tune, cams, etc.. My plan is to find a short block to rebuild for boost without the down time on my R. So the missing engine mount holes on the block would rule out the Touareg 3.2. Searching online 04 R32 motor go for twice the price as 04 3.2 Touareg motors.
      Take the bracket and bolts to a machine shop and have them drill and tap. If they aren't swamped they should have it back in a day or two.

      If you want to go even cheaper you can go with a 24v 2.8 short block with a 3.2 head then up the boost to make up for lower displacement.
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    15. 02-02-2016 12:16 PM #15
      Quote Originally Posted by Jo|\| View Post
      Take the bracket and bolts to a machine shop and have them drill and tap. If they aren't swamped they should have it back in a day or two.
      ..and block. Can you tap a cast block??

      Quote Originally Posted by Jo|\| View Post
      If you want to go even cheaper you can go with a 24v 2.8 short block with a 3.2 head then up the boost to make up for lower displacement.
      Not looking for cheap necessarily. Just wanted to know why a 04 R used motor would be twice the price as an 04 Toureg, and what differences there may be. As long as the crank is the same, takes the same head and accessories, and can be mounted transfers I'm in. Seems there are 10x as many of the Toureg motors.. And my plan is to overbore the 3.2 anyway. In my dreams I swap a 3.6, but I already poured a metric ****ton of $$ into my 3.2 head and I don't want to toss that out.. Let be blow this one up first before wandering into 3.6 space..

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      02-02-2016 01:09 PM #16
      Quote Originally Posted by zippy_109 View Post
      ..and block. Can you tap a cast block??
      Yes, forgot to include block. Bracket and block so they can line up the holes. Tapping is how all the threads are done on the block/head. They are probably done by machine vs by hand, but it's still tapped.

      It would also be finished with a bottoming tap(right) instead of a taper or plug tap(left) since the hole is fairly shallow.




      Quote Originally Posted by zippy_109 View Post
      Not looking for cheap necessarily. Just wanted to know why a 04 R used motor would be twice the price as an 04 Toureg, and what differences there may be. As long as the crank is the same, takes the same head and accessories, and can be mounted transfers I'm in. Seems there are 10x as many of the Toureg motors.. And my plan is to overbore the 3.2 anyway. In my dreams I swap a 3.6, but I already poured a metric ****ton of $$ into my 3.2 head and I don't want to toss that out.. Let be blow this one up first before wandering into 3.6 space..
      The 2.8 is a bit stronger too. It runs M11 bolts/studs instead of the 3.2 M10.

      If you're replacing a 3.2 the Touareg make sense. Just strip to a long block, tap the 3 mount holes and swap the R parts over, oil pan and pump too I think. Using it for a VR6 swap requires a lot more money/parts since everything is setup for longitudinal vs transverse.
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      02-02-2016 04:21 PM #17
      Quote Originally Posted by zippy_109 View Post
      Resurrecting old thread.. I'm looking for confirmation of the above. I don't car about tune, cams, etc.. My plan is to find a short block to rebuild for boost without the down time on my R. So the missing engine mount holes on the block would rule out the Touareg 3.2. Searching online 04 R32 motor go for twice the price as 04 3.2 Touareg motors.
      Don't forget about other 3.2L engines found in an Mk1 Audi TT, Audi A3, VW Eos, Porsche Cayenne.
      Keep in mind there is a vin split in 2008 for the crank pulley key way. Early cars used a square keyway where the later models use an oval keyway.
      This only pertains if you happen to have aftermarket light weight crank pulley on your R32.

      You don't have to do a full swap, like you said you only want the short block.



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