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    Thread: Maestro 7 Tuning: FAQ, DIY, hard data, and advice thread

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      10-19-2009 11:03 PM #1
      I know there is already a Maestro thread as posted by AL@pagparts.com (Arnold) but that is 15pgs. worth of announcements, information, and armchair racing (not in that order), so I would like to have a dedicated user thread for specific information on self-flashing, tuning, logging, and other Eurodyne/Maestro experiences. Please post up anything that would help other Maestro users with their set-up (*cough* settings/hardware).

      I am speaking as the owner of a 2003 BEA 225TT, which means ko4-022/3, VVT, and wideband o2 stock with 72k; I have a turboback, TIP, and Eurodyne Stg.1 flashtune (Tapp file necessary for any of this to work, obviously). All the specific info I included (the graphs/info shots) were from a full-throttle pull after shifting into third gear; it was about 50% humidity and 55°F.

      The steps to being tuned:

      - Get the Powertap unit and cord out of the box (smaller that I thought, not a bad thing); you must have it plugged in to use either the Maestro or Flash programs; the dongle is actually two pieces, it uses a proprietary printer USB cable to connect the cable to your computer. You have to install the driver file before you install any other software. You will also probably have to do a Windows update, that killed 45 mins. on my end

      - You then e-mail Chris, and get your UN/PW

      - Sign into Eurodyne to download the necessary software (which includes the Powertap driver). You have to download three programs, as each does a different thing:

      1. Maestro 7 – tuning suite, allows adjustment of all tune settings with 3D maps (adjustment through numerical settings, maps non-adjustable as of 10.19.2009)

      --- Diagnostics (readiness)
      --- Boost
      --- Fuel
      --- Spark
      --- calculator

      2. Eurodyne Flash – actual flashing program (first picture below)

      --- Read + Write the ECU, get ECU info
      --- “Log Data” takes you to a separate data logging screen, displays real-time data on many parameters (second picture below)
      --- “Read settings” is sort of deceiving, it actually opens another separate screen which is basically V-tune/Lemmiwinks/Unisettings, though on mine boost isn’t really adjustable, as it is currently at 100% but I only maybe spike at 21psi and taper to 19psi.


      3. Log Viewer - allows you to analyze the entire log file; you can zoom to a specific section, print the graph, or save it as an image.


      - Once you get the software installed and working, you have to Read ECU with the flash program; I would enable hi-speed since my connection crapped out with it unchecked (probably car dependant). Once you read/save the file, you’ll e-mail this to Chris, and he will send you a tuned file. Barring any problems, you will be able to simply download the file, hook up your computer and flash your ECU. Here is a visual sequence:

      Action pic:

      Reading the ECU:

      (…a few days/emails pass…)

      Flashing the ECU:



      Time to play!!




      I will amend this thread if I or any of you guys give me a simple run-down off the specific features, and what each means and does; I’m a n00b and I know someone else can probably just rattle off a simple explanation for each.

      I really like the extra power from my flashtune but I’m excited to dig into my tuning; my only complaints are about the logging window; it is good but not great, although you can save the image I know that future updates are going to come for the software. A few suggestions: I would like the log graph to be available in a separate, full window, I'd like to be able to pick my own line/background colors, labels for most/all the variables in the Log Viewer window would help, and being able to define the values for each axis in the graph (such as psi, *F, CFM, a/f) would kick ass

      Maestro guys, please contribute to this thread so we can compile a ton of info to help each other out, and I hope this is informative for anyone thinking about getting the Maestro 7 Here is a picture of a full-throttle 3rd gear run, I can get other info graphed if people want…





      Modified by l88m22vette at 6:00 PM 10-21-2009

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      10-19-2009 11:05 PM #2
      Geez took you long enough
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      10-19-2009 11:22 PM #3
      Good Job

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      10-19-2009 11:22 PM #4
      I recommend a full laptop not a net book. Difficult to see the full screen.
      the icons on the maestro screen will open all related windows to make the appropriate changes


      Modified by VRT at 11:29 PM 10-19-2009


      Modified by VRT at 11:42 AM 10-20-2009


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      10-19-2009 11:24 PM #5
      looks nice, i will also be contributing to this thread once mine comes in
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      10-19-2009 11:28 PM #6
      Quote, originally posted by halchka99 »
      looks nice, i will also be contributing to this thread once mine comes in

      que ? wtf.. no more SM4 ?

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      10-19-2009 11:29 PM #7
      i had uni before. just sold that and ordered this
      For Sale: SEM driver box.

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      10-19-2009 11:35 PM #8
      Oh ya.. brain fart, lol thinking of someone else. Good sell btw
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      10-20-2009 06:06 PM #10

      I found the info on this screen to be interpret differently.
      I believe that KEY OFF ENGINE OFF and KEY ON ENGINE OFF would be a better description

      I know it caught me a few times when trying to load files




      Modified by VRT at 6:08 PM 10-20-2009


    11. 10-20-2009 06:15 PM #11
      Just what I was looking for
      Road Farmin'

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      10-20-2009 06:36 PM #12
      Wait a minute.. No access to fuel, timing, boost, and readiness?? That's a bit dissapointing..

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      10-20-2009 06:56 PM #13

      You obviously can't read

    14. 10-20-2009 06:56 PM #14
      Thank you!!!

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      10-20-2009 07:05 PM #15
      Quote, originally posted by dubinsincuwereindiapers »
      Wait a minute.. No access to fuel, timing, boost, and readiness?? That's a bit dissapointing..

      It's all there.

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      10-20-2009 07:17 PM #16
      Quote, originally posted by VRT »

      You obviously can't read

      Actually I can... He states that as of 10/19/2009 those maps are non adjustable..


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      10-20-2009 07:22 PM #17
      I have the program that is not the case
      you missunderstand the graph map is not adjustable but the Number map makes all the changes to the graph map


      Modified by VRT at 7:26 PM 10-20-2009

    18. 10-20-2009 07:38 PM #18
      Quote, originally posted by dubinsincuwereindiapers »

      Actually I can... He states that as of 10/19/2009 those maps are non adjustable..

      I believe you can change the maps, from this picture it appears he his altering the boost duty map, he changes the numerical value which then translates to the visual 3D map. I believe he says the 3D maps are adjustable through changing the numerical data in the table and not through actually grabbing points on the graph and moving them around(I could be wrong thought).

      Quote, originally posted by l88m22vette »
      allows adjustment of all tune settings with 3D maps (adjustment through numerical settings, maps non-adjustable as of 10.19.2009)


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      10-20-2009 07:58 PM #19
      Ahh.. I stand corrected.. The wording led me to believe otherwise..

    20. 10-20-2009 10:33 PM #20
      This thread should be sticky! Revolutionary!

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      10-20-2009 11:18 PM #21
      Quote, originally posted by 16plus4v »
      Geez took you long enough

      Quote, originally posted by VRT »
      I recommend a full laptop not a net book. Difficult to see the full screen.

      yea, I tune in Maestro on my desktop, then transfer files to/from my netbook for flashing and logging. Even if you could see on the netbook screen having an actual workstation is much easier...

      Quote, originally posted by dubinsincuwereindiapers »
      Wait a minute.. No access to fuel, timing, boost, and readiness?? That's a bit dissapointing..

      Quote, originally posted by dubinsincuwereindiapers »
      Actually I can... He states that as of 10/19/2009 those maps are non adjustable..

      Quote, originally posted by Stinky Binky »
      I believe he says the 3D maps are adjustable through changing the numerical data in the table and not through actually grabbing points on the graph and moving them around(I could be wrong thought)

      There is basic adjustment through "Read Settings" in Flash or with a lot of detail in Maestro

      Audi TT mk1 FAQ Officially zero Fuchs given.

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      10-21-2009 03:46 AM #22
      Quote, originally posted by halchka99 »
      i had uni before. just sold that and ordered this

      if i got forth with anymore mods to my mk4, Maestro 7 is on the "to get" list

      Take a second and thank a Veteran.

    23. 10-21-2009 06:05 AM #23
      Awesome Job, deffinatly STICKY worthy!

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      10-21-2009 08:16 AM #24
      Quote, originally posted by ethorman »
      Awesome Job, deffinatly STICKY worthy!

      x2


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      10-21-2009 10:00 AM #25
      Quote, originally posted by ethorman »
      Awesome Job, deffinatly STICKY worthy!

      CAN'T

      Great Job Eric,
      I will be contributing shortly.


    26. 10-21-2009 10:52 AM #26
      FAQ worthy then?

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      10-21-2009 10:57 AM #27
      Quote, originally posted by ethorman »
      FAQ worthy then?

      Absolutely.

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      10-21-2009 11:27 AM #28
      Make sure you don't accidentally kick the cable while it is writing to the ecu either.

      When is this going to be available for other ME7 cars? Like maybe the R32?


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      ^^ Very soon.
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    30. 10-21-2009 10:52 PM #30
      Got a couple of questions i tried to email their website but im sure they have tons of emails and work thats takes priority so I turn to you guys for help :>

      Back ground:
      1 my dog (105lb boxer) stepped on my laptop and cracked the screen, still works but i gotta manuever the windows to see stuff lol-myfualt leaving it on the ground in a corner i guess
      2 I am planing for going for 450-500awhp later and want to do as many mods now that will get me power or show difference now that i wont have to rebuy later

      Question 1
      If i get the software now and load it onto my laptop to use on my car... when i get a new laptop can i load it to my new one

      question 2
      If i get the software and update my car so it is better now, is it free to get another map when i get my exhaust and DV

      question 3
      how much is it to upgrade the tune/map when i go BAT?

      I really appreciate all the help


    31. 10-21-2009 10:55 PM #31
      how much does it cost for this thingy magingy

    32. 10-21-2009 11:10 PM #32
      for the Maestro Suite 7 its $915

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      10-21-2009 11:17 PM #33
      Quote, originally posted by sound-speed-style »
      Got a couple of questions i tried to email their website but im sure they have tons of emails and work thats takes priority so I turn to you guys for help :>

      Back ground:
      1 my dog (105lb boxer) stepped on my laptop and cracked the screen, still works but i gotta manuever the windows to see stuff lol-myfualt leaving it on the ground in a corner i guess
      2 I am planing for going for 450-500awhp later and want to do as many mods now that will get me power or show difference now that i wont have to rebuy later

      Question 1
      If i get the software now and load it onto my laptop to use on my car... when i get a new laptop can i load it to my new one

      Yes it's simply a software download off of Eurodyne's website. Chris gives you a log in password for the download

      question 2
      If i get the software and update my car so it is better now, is it free to get another map when i get my exhaust and DV

      Yes, you simply flash the file according to your setup.

      question 3
      how much is it to upgrade the tune/map when i go BAT?

      The cost for Maestro is a one tme charge. $915 and you won't pay anything to switch files.
      I really appreciate all the help

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      10-21-2009 11:23 PM #34
      Any kind of MAF scaling features?
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    35. 10-21-2009 11:25 PM #35
      awesome that helps alot means im ordering it friday when i get my check! Its insane that they will just keep sending you free maps as you upgrade... just goes to show how much more CTapp ROCKS over all competitors

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