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    Thread: Maestro 7 Tuning: FAQ, DIY, hard data, and advice thread

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      10-22-2009 10:04 PM #76
      Fine... Ill answer it.. N249, N80,N112,SAI,rear 02, and VVT..... Just about anything that can be deleted, and still allow the system to function can be deleted..

    2. 10-22-2009 10:07 PM #77
      ok so i dont wanna sound like a total moron... but is there anywhere i can learn to tune besides kinda just learning lol... like is there a book or any classes anyone know of... i just got off the honda scene and those are ez to do... audi's seem to be a lil more fancy with it all...
      anyway simplified- any books or classes you can get/take to become a tuning master on these goregous machines?

    3. 10-22-2009 10:23 PM #78
      I am in the same boat you are in, trying to learn how to tune that is, but a motor is a motor, just have to make sure you get the right a/f ratio down, and the software is what makes it seem fancy. Great software just have to learn how to use it all. I am sure in a few months there will be a DIY on how to set it all up exactly and tune. Hope it helps.

    4. 10-22-2009 10:26 PM #79
      Quote, originally posted by dubinsincuwereindiapers »
      Fine... Ill answer it.. N249, N80,N112,SAI,rear 02, and VVT..... Just about anything that can be deleted, and still allow the system to function can be deleted..

      thank you thats kinda what i was looking for i would like a list of everything that could be cleared..

    5. 10-22-2009 11:18 PM #80
      well timing a/f and boost is all pretty much easily understood, but the optimal numbers for each and everything else is what im in need of help on ... dont want to tune my a4 like a civic lol

    6. 10-22-2009 11:40 PM #81
      That is understandable, but all in all tuning is tuning, myself I am going to wait for about six months till there is a good DIY and probably some updates.... The nice thing about Eurodyne is that it starts off with your base tune for whatever setup you have.... you should only really need to tweak settings, and/or modify the tune once you add upgrades.

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      10-22-2009 11:45 PM #82
      Just turn up the boost and add timming till you see a little timming pull or none, I did this with my A4 and I was running 30psi on pump gas with a S366 BW. Full weight with me was 3550 and it trapped 120. so it was making some power,
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    8. 10-22-2009 11:51 PM #83
      but is there a place where i can learn the safe numbers and risky ones and no no numbers? lol...
      i have a feeling the answer to that question is wait untill some diys and updates come out

    9. 10-22-2009 11:55 PM #84
      Or spend the money and go to the the Eurodyne dealer and have them show you how to tune/adjust it....

    10. 10-22-2009 11:56 PM #85
      I would love to but Im in olympia washington... south of Seattle... nearest one is about 600miles away last time i searched :<
      scratch that found one 3 hours and 30 mins away... might be worth it im emailing them now


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      10-23-2009 12:04 AM #86
      As long as the car is not pulling timming its happy . You dont wanna see much timming pull
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    12. 10-23-2009 12:14 AM #87
      got ya... pending email from kineticmotorsport i may be taking a road trip to canada soon

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      10-23-2009 12:19 AM #88
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      10-23-2009 12:28 AM #89
      My initial 02x tune ran -1.50 timing from Chris, I've used 2.25 (like my stock setup) and its not happy, log+spike+pull = sucks. I'm going to go -.75 and so on until I see pull. You guys might also like this screen, Maximum VE, it appears to be a basic boost curve plotter, and the "Boost Duty" screen I posted earlier is specifically for N75 control



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      10-23-2009 10:22 AM #90
      Once the new motor goes in i'm going to do a FULL how-to-tune write up for this thread.
      Something along the lines of a live video on..
      How-to : Select and run a log
      How-to : Use that log to determine where you can add/pull timing or fuel
      How-to : Tune the fuel/ timing trims
      How-to : Data log what you've done to ensure all is well..
      Something like that, but a video feed.
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      10-23-2009 12:42 PM #91
      Okay, so when is the motor going in? Just really excited to see how a real tuner does it.
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      this sentence makes no sense. why would you "black-hole" an entire thread for what a few people said? that would be a great way to contribute to the forum you rule.....

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      10-23-2009 06:15 PM #93
      Quote, originally posted by simon-says &raquo;
      Okay, so when is the motor going in? Just really excited to see how a real tuner does it.
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      Gathering valve train parts and sending the head out to BOBQ in a couple weeks, once I get that back I'll button everything up.. aiming for late January early Feb to hit the dyno.
      I will be doing an " off the shelf " dyno for both pump and c16, as well as a re mapped dyno for both using the Maestro suite. I plan to show how I did it so people have a general idea of the procedures involved.
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      10-23-2009 08:39 PM #94
      Would be nice to know what the a/f ratio should be at WOT, how much timing to look for etc. I will be getting Maesto installed within the next few days. Ive read a bit but still forget occasionally.

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      10-23-2009 09:18 PM #95
      Quote, originally posted by Dub-Nub &raquo;
      Would be nice to know what the a/f ratio should be at WOT, how much timing to look for etc. I will be getting Maesto installed within the next few days. Ive read a bit but still forget occasionally.

      Well it all depends on your supporting mods.
      Generally the a/f ratio is safe anywhere between 11.6-12.0 all the way up top (5k-9k)
      Timing should be in the 16*-17* area (5k+), again depends on supporting mods.
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    21. 10-23-2009 09:29 PM #96
      SIDE question!
      where did you learn this stuff. like is there a site, book, class? or did you learn frmo expierence or what lol... i really wanna learn to do this and know this stuff but i have no idea where to start
      i emailed a eurodyne dealer in canada and im waiting to hear back from them about the possibilities but id be a lot happier if i could learn to tune my car without having to drive 7 hours round trip

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      10-23-2009 09:33 PM #97
      It's more experience and self learning. Basically if you decide to go with the Maestro suite, you can post up your timing/a.f logs and we can tell you if everything is kosher. OR we can direct you in the right direction to gain power and/or better your setup.
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      10-23-2009 09:43 PM #98
      One i get my maesto running i will play around with it. I have played with apr v-tune and vag-com logs but this is going to be awesummmmm!!!!

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      10-24-2009 12:51 AM #99
      Chris is going to finish the help files really soon and those should help; he also mentioned that he is planning on including an OBDII scanner/DTC clearing function eventually.
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      10-25-2009 05:39 PM #100
      I have read this thread a few times and I want to make one thing clear.
      base map or generic map are the wrong words that should be used for what Tapp gives you. If you contact Eurodyne for a file for your GT28 turbo on 440cc injectors. You get a great file that you will rave about like most have done. Well that is the same file that you start with when Tapp sends you a file so called base map.
      There really is no need to change this map. Unless you like to play around with different injectors or timing. Even just adding to your file. I went to larger injectors and meth. This system let me make the changes that I need to make. Without having to contact Eurodyne for a update tune [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG] [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]

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