Maestro 7 Tuning: FAQ, DIY, hard data, and advice thread

[EF9Si]

So when are you building the engine home skillets?

[l88m22vette]

Quote, originally posted by Cru$ty GLI »

Any solution on the "Cable not Found" error message?

Did you:

- Install the CDM driver?
- Install Eurodyne Flash?
- Do a Windows update?
- Plug the cable in without running a program to see if the PC would auto-detect/recognize the cable?
- Restart your computer?

[AL@PagParts.com]

Quote, originally posted by Cru$ty GLI »

Any solution on the "Cable not Found" error message? Ive tryed everything that is listed above and nothing seems to work, Al@Pagparts doesnt even know whats up and Chris is out for the weekend. I need my car running asap. Thanks for any help

I'll be sending you updated SW soon. Your cable is one of the newest ones. Just hang in there

[coreyj]

chris just updated the software because of problems with the immo defeat key not working correctly.

i ended up having to send my ecu to him.

but all is good now
many thanks go out to chris for helping me out and customer service is top notch.

[coreyj]

Quote, originally posted by Cru$ty GLI »

Any solution on the "Cable not Found" error message? Ive tryed everything that is listed above and nothing seems to work, Al@Pagparts doesnt even know whats up and Chris is out for the weekend. I need my car running asap. Thanks for any help

i had same problem.

click on the CDM in the setup folder.

[Issam Abed]

Quote, originally posted by coreyj »

many thanks go out to chris for helping me out and customer service is top notch.

definitely so.
He has been working hard on 1 of my customers and response time has been flawless.

[16plus4v]

Quote, originally posted by Issam Abed »

definitely so. He has been working hard on 1 of my customers and response time has been flawless.

[1.BillyT]

R32, yes...

really don't wanna put stand alone on this thing...

[coreyj]

i just recently was doing some logs with the maestro.

im wondering what everyone is getting on timing pull? im on the n75 and at 20-21psi with no adjustments made to the software yet and i was getting up to 6 degree of pull on a couple of the cylinders..

later that night i decided to mix in a couple gallons of 110 oct. with my half tank of 93 oct and that lowered the timing pull a bit to 1-2 degree of pull.

should i be trying to get my pull to 0 on all cylinders?

on monday im going to be renting a dyno for an hour then i guess trying to adjust the low octane setting to get 0 pull on 93. then ill be adjusting the high octane setting to have 0 pull on 104 oct. i probly wont be able to run as much boost as im wanting since i only have 630cc @4 bar but i think ill still be able to hit 27-28psi and just adjust the timing for the most power.
o and this is going to be on a T25 gt3076

[16plus4v]

^^ Can you post your logs ?

- With w/m and 29psi on the a4 (bep s366) there was pretty much 0 timing pull, Timing up top was around 16-17* and could have ran more. At 25psi no meth it was pulling approx. 1-2 degrees which is fine. Anything under 3-4* timing pull is decent. Anything higher you should look into makin some adjustments.

- Your 104 oct if pulling 0 timing clearly shows you have room to bump it up.

- If you cant post some logs, what is your timing looking like between 4-7k ?

Modified by 16plus4v at 1:53 PM 11-29-2009

[coreyj]

Quote, originally posted by 16plus4v »

^^ Can you post your logs ? - With w/m and 29psi on the a4 (bep s366) there was pretty much 0 timing pull, Timing up top was around 16-17* and could have ran more. At 25psi no meth it was pulling approx. 1-2 degrees which is fine. Anything under 3-4* timing pull is decent. Anything higher you should look into makin some adjustments. - Your 104 oct if pulling 0 timing clearly shows you have room to bump it up. - If you cant post some logs, what is your timing looking like between 4-7k ? Modified by 16plus4v at 1:53 PM 11-29-2009

i did the logs on a friends computer so i dont have them . but id say the timing looked good until it hit 5500rpm or so and it would jump up to 3.75 then it was hitting 5.00 by 6500 then 7000rpm it was at 6.25.

ill actually go out and do some logs here in a hour or 2 so ill be able to post them up. but they are not going to be accurate because there is 2 gallons of 110 in the tank with about 7 gallons of 93.

[PassatMrT]

Quote, originally posted by Issam Abed »

For the ME5.8 guys and lower,they really only have 2 choices: 1. ME-7 conversion 2. Standalone but if you are a 2001+ MKIV or Audi B5/B6 then definitely a "chip tune" is the way to go.

Actually, In the next few weeks, they will be releasing DBC (AEB included) hardware that will allow for the same tuning modifications to be made without removing the ECU.


Modified by PassatMrT at 5:41 PM 11-29-2009

[Issam Abed]

Quote, originally posted by PassatMrT »

Actually, In the next few weeks, they will be releasing DBC (AEB included) hardware that will allow for the same tuning modifications to be made without removing the ECU.

I am a Eurodyne/Meastro 7 dealer so when Chris notified me of the release for the ME5 I was pretty happy to hear that but still anyone with real world ME5.8 experience will tell you that you are better off going with an ME-7 conversion.

wideband + DBW throttle bodies open the door to ALOT of power add ons that will not be achievable with ME-5.

[Late__Apex]

I have an A4 and a TT. Can you flash more than one car with the software or do you need two licenses.

[AL@PagParts.com]

Quote, originally posted by Late__Apex »

I have an A4 and a TT. Can you flash more than one car with the software or do you need two licenses.

You would need 2 separate licenses respective for each car

[coreyj]

can some one graph this log and post it up for me?

i can not get my log viewer to work correctly...still.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=QXLEWFU1

[engineerd18t]

I was actually going to ask if anyone had any logs as well as how fast the datalogger refreshes. Looks like 16.6Hz and decent data. What turbo is that?

[coreyj]

Quote, originally posted by bbeach »

I was actually going to ask if anyone had any logs as well as how fast the datalogger refreshes. Looks like 16.6Hz and decent data. What turbo is that?

t25 30R thanks 4 the upload man.

[engineerd18t]

Quote, originally posted by coreyj »

t25 30R thanks 4 the upload man.

No problem, now when I log with Vagcom I get an N75 duty cycle of 95.3% when building boost, why is yours in the 70s? Still N75 or does maestro interpret it differently?

[mk2DTM8v]

If the duty cycle of the n75 valve can be modified, who's to say it couldn't be used in conjunction with an external gate with a stiffer than stock spring. Reason being then say 50 percent duty cycle would now net more than a negligible amount of boost. That way boost could be controlled via the n75 as high as needed. I don't know how the computer will like that being that once boost rises out of the ecus eyes around 22psi....any input??

[coreyj]

im not sure about all the duty cycle stuff still learning the software. but for what ever its worth i made more power with the N 75 than i did with the MBC i was actually losing boost at redline with MBC and i gained Boost with the N75

[PassatMrT]

Quote, originally posted by Issam Abed »

I am a Eurodyne/Meastro 7 dealer so when Chris notified me of the release for the ME5 I was pretty happy to hear that but still anyone with real world ME5.8 experience will tell you that you are better off going with an ME-7 conversion. wideband + DBW throttle bodies open the door to ALOT of power add ons that will not be achievable with ME-5.

While I agree the ME7 offers more options, (like MAFless files) it's also more complex to tune. That and I've always heard that the DBW systems suck. But then again, there may be advantages to them, I just haven't heard them yet.

As for my setup, I plan on staying with my AEM controller for boost and my Innovate wideband to keep an eye on things. Spray some W/M for insurance and I think I can make some good power over my current tune.


Modified by PassatMrT at 4:17 PM 12-13-2009

[TSTARKZ123]

That sample rate is reason enough to make me want to switch! LOL!

[Snitches Get Stitches]

R32 please...in my case R32 head + 2.9l bottom end..R32 fuel rail 2.8L ecu....want the ability to adjust for cams(Schrick 272) in the future without new tune and I want bigger injectors...Currently C2 tune 440cc with 580cc on the way...
This is a great tool for you 1.8T guys...Jealous and awaiting R32/2.8L VR6 availability

[coreyj]

im about to install some ls2 coil packs to see if that cures my misfire i some times get when i have full boost. im thinking my spark is being blown out due to the fact my coils are 2.5 years old and have only had big turbo and high boost on them..im going to see if i can mess with the dwell a bit, set it to 5ms increasing to 7ms in the high rpm. if im not capable then im sure chris can figure something out.

[Dmdusn]

I'm running APR 3+ on a Gti. Can I just buy the Maestro, and flash over the APR sw? It's my DD, so taking my ecu out and sending it from Hawaii to Canada wont really work.

[TSTARKZ123]

Wideband parts are all here. Hopefully I'll be able to contribute to this thread soon.

[l88m22vette]

I'm sending my unit in today to get the FW update, I plan to tweak some stuff once I get it back and get my HPBC set - its pretty amazing how much better the throttle/boost is with the POS N75 removed

[gdoggmoney]

Is dwell adjustable?!?!?!

I have not been able to find this. I am waiting for Chris Tapp to reply via email

[carsluTT]

interesting, maybe i just found a way to get my car running properly.

[derekb727]

great thread, wish more ppl new more about it. understandable though since its only been out for a while. looks to be a great system though, looks like i will be giving it a shot with my a4 s258 build.

[jettaman18t]

I havent received a confirmation email from Eurodynes website to confirm my email address. Chris already sent me log in info and a password but it still has to verify my email and its been over an hour without receiving one. What should i do? Chris said he can't control the website but this seems to be taking way to long.

[gdoggmoney]

Quote, originally posted by jettaman18t »

I havent received a confirmation email from Eurodynes website to confirm my email address. Chris already sent me log in info and a password but it still has to verify my email and its been over an hour without receiving one. What should i do? Chris said he can't control the website but this seems to be taking way to long.

Settle down beavis. Sometimes e-mail takes a good while. It could be stuck in a mail queue somewhere or there is a temporary broken route between your mail servers.

[Lou_Y2mK5]

Quote, originally posted by gdoggmoney »

Settle down beavis. Sometimes e-mail takes a good while. It could be stuck in a mail queue somewhere or there is a temporary broken route between your mail servers.

LMAO

[jettaman18t]

Haha I know I'm super impatient. But hey I can't help it I'm excited haha.