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    Thread: Project CAR (Coupe Air Ride) is under way!!!

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      01-23-2010 12:31 AM #141
      Oh she's plenty low

      Just trying to squeeze every mm out of it!


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      01-23-2010 02:49 AM #142
      If you theoretically didn't need to be slammed but wanted optimal ride and the ability to lower the car at times, would it be possible to run the helper spring under the bag? Would that deliver any softer ride?

      Also a bit confused/concerned about bags running softer when lower and stiffer when inflated. So when you park it drop it on the ground would be optimal ride 'quality' and then when you raise it to 'optimal' driving hight they get firm as hell?

      Trying to make a decision on my daily. Currently has racelands trying to decide to go for sport spring bilstein set up or wait for these bags.


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      01-23-2010 05:11 AM #143
      Quote, originally posted by d.clique »
      If you theoretically didn't need to be slammed but wanted optimal ride and the ability to lower the car at times, would it be possible to run the helper spring under the bag? Would that deliver any softer ride?

      Also a bit confused/concerned about bags running softer when lower and stiffer when inflated. So when you park it drop it on the ground would be optimal ride 'quality' and then when you raise it to 'optimal' driving hight they get firm as hell?

      Trying to make a decision on my daily. Currently has racelands trying to decide to go for sport spring bilstein set up or wait for these bags.

      Great questions. Let me break them apart...

      Helper springs- This would not improve ride at all. Under the weight of the car the helpers completely compress. They are only there to keep the springs seated under situations where the wheels are off the ground. Also as a side effect the air bag would want to lean because the spring wouldn't be able to hold it straight.

      Air Pressure/ Ride Quality- Yes it is true that lower pressures make the car ride nice. But there is a balance between ride and stance. This setup allows it to be built based on how you want the car to be-

      Slammed
      Stylin'/Comfortable

      I will have a price this weekend. Hopefully it does lock the thread.


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      01-23-2010 07:02 PM #144
      Ok, here's the scoop. I now have pricing available. In order to keep this a "build thread" and keep the mods off my back please IM me. I will reply with a break down on pricing.

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      01-23-2010 08:59 PM #145
      Pm sent

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      01-23-2010 11:06 PM #146
      ^Replied

    7. 01-24-2010 08:33 PM #147
      Nice project. have you thought about shorter struts.?

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      01-24-2010 08:59 PM #148
      Quote, originally posted by Banned wagon »
      Nice project. have you thought about shorter struts.?

      Thank you sir.

      It is not the struts that are holding the car up... its the bags. They are fully compressed. Hoping the spacers will allow for the bag to be lowered more.

      The goal is for this to be a bolt-on kit. Slap this on your coilovers and get low!


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      01-24-2010 09:11 PM #149
      This thing done yet or is going to be another Der Hare
      Scuba If I got in a cab and Esher was driving, I'd get right out. Then I'd ponder how drunk I was that I entered the rear of a 2dr rabbit and thought it was a cab.

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      01-24-2010 09:26 PM #150
      ouch.

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      01-24-2010 09:28 PM #151
      I mean this in jest
      Scuba If I got in a cab and Esher was driving, I'd get right out. Then I'd ponder how drunk I was that I entered the rear of a 2dr rabbit and thought it was a cab.

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      01-24-2010 09:29 PM #152
      I got to see this project in the flesh today...

      The quality, as usual; is amazing.

      It was nice to see and feel the product in my own hands, and not just look at a few photos.


    13. 01-24-2010 09:46 PM #153
      ahh the infamous inner sleeve. i have had my share of issues with it as well.

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      01-24-2010 10:01 PM #154
      Quote, originally posted by Mk1Madness »
      This thing done yet or is going to be another Der Hare

      As far the the front setup goes its done. Just fine tuning it for the Jetta for maximum low. Rears will be cake. Should be completed for spring... thats the goal anyways!


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      01-24-2010 10:05 PM #155
      Quote, originally posted by Banned wagon »
      ahh the infamous inner sleeve. i have had my share of issues with it as well.

      Through trial and error I have discovered that the inner sleeve is EXACTLY the same length as the bag when completely compressed so there is truly no way to squeeze more (or less in this case) out of it. Only thing we can do is try and bring the spring down. I only need about a 1/2" and then it should rest on the ground... WIN!


    16. 01-24-2010 10:10 PM #156
      make sure ya get some locktight on whats left of the tapered top mount screws. don't ask


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      01-24-2010 10:36 PM #157
      Quote, originally posted by Banned wagon »
      make sure ya get some locktight on whats left of the tapered top mount screws. don't ask

      Indeed. Thanks for the reminder!


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      01-25-2010 05:07 PM #158
      Just got back with some line and fittings. Will be sitting on air today. Post up some pics later!

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      01-25-2010 05:12 PM #159
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      01-26-2010 11:05 PM #160
      Got the coilovers clearanced for the air fitting. My local supplier also hook me up with Parker DOT fittings. Super high quality.

      Here is my test Schrader setup!

      Added a 5mm spacer. Worked great. Think we are going to ultimately do 10mm. Clearance looks great from all angles!

      So how does it look?

      Aired up

      Aired out

      How does it sit?

      The oil pan is sitting on the ground. Once the ass is low, this will pull the oil pan up a little. Might be able to get a little more low.

      And here is a GIF for your visual stimulation!

      Enjoy!


      Modified by WCHLVR at 8:17 PM 1-26-2010


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      01-26-2010 11:12 PM #161
      hurry up and do the rear already!!
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      01-26-2010 11:17 PM #162
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      hurry up and do the rear already!!

      Buy some of my hsit so I can.


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      01-26-2010 11:19 PM #163
      booooo do the rear

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      01-26-2010 11:19 PM #164
      btw it looks like the car is breathing heavily in and out haha

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      01-26-2010 11:20 PM #165
      Quote, originally posted by Digital K. »
      booooo do the rear

      What he said!

      Quote, originally posted by WCHLVR »

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      Modified by WCHLVR at 8:33 PM 1-26-2010


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      01-26-2010 11:21 PM #166
      coolio... (the singer)

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      01-26-2010 11:33 PM #167
      Very nice! I can hardly wait...

    28. 01-26-2010 11:42 PM #168
      verry nice.
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      01-26-2010 11:47 PM #169
      Were those spacers I brought over of any use?

      Looks great! I dig your special effects too!


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      01-26-2010 11:48 PM #170
      nice
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      01-26-2010 11:53 PM #171
      Nice I like it alot.

      Funny I was just IMing you about "completed" pics. That is completed enough for me.


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      01-27-2010 12:01 AM #172
      cool beans.
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      01-27-2010 12:09 AM #173
      Thanks again for all the kudos folks.

      Quote, originally posted by JLF »
      Were those spacers I brought over of any use?

      The bolts weren't long enough. Unlike the rear drum, the rotor's are not threaded.


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      01-27-2010 01:06 AM #175
      mmm cant wait to drive it.......

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