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    1. Member drracing07's Avatar
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      06-09-2010 12:05 PM #51
      wait wait wait...back on page 1 you said you were using 87 octane gas with the PEM stage 2? correct me if im wrong but dosent that require 93 octane? hence the ricockulous timing?

    2. 06-09-2010 12:47 PM #52
      Quote Originally Posted by drracing07 View Post
      wait wait wait...back on page 1 you said you were using 87 octane gas with the PEM stage 2? correct me if im wrong but dosent that require 93 octane? hence the ricockulous timing?
      I ran 87 with the S2 all winter long NO ISSUES. This was on a stock head/cam setup. For the hell of it, I dropped in a tank of 93 and the timing didnt advance all that much more at a lower rpm/load. Maybe 2*? At WOT, it advanced the same...about 27*-30* (rpm-dependent) And up until my car burnt, I was using 89 octane and there was no difference in timing.

      About the header not lining up.....They all come like that. Its not a big deal. You just persuade it on with a rubber mallet. NOT a big deal. I had to do that to both of mine when I put it on. And the OBX isnt a crap header.

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      06-11-2010 08:38 AM #53
      Yeah, you are supposed to run 93 with the stg 2. I wanted to see if and how much timing it would pull on 87. I do think it runs better on 93 as opposed to 87.

      I did get the header on an old head that still had the studs in it. I think I'm going to sand down the flange to try to get it to seal. When you put a straight edge across the flanges there is also an 1/8 inch gap and one of the flanges isn't even straight. If this isn't a cheap poorly made header, I would hate to see one. But, I cant say I wasn't expecting to have this problem.

      Maybe if I was bolting this to a iron head I would be able to draw the nuts down tight enough to make it seal, MAYBE. I don't feel like stripping out the threads on my good ported head....

      Got the intake ports finished up last night. Now I just have to figure out if there is anything else I can do with the exhaust ports. I can't really open them up any because the header is the same size as the factory ports. I already did the short side radius.

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      06-28-2010 09:53 PM #54
      FINALLY! Got the head done tonight. Couldn't do much with the exhaust ports because the header so closely matches it. Cleaned up the chamber side as well. Off to get the bigger seats put in and check it out again to make sure everything is still smooth. After that I just have to get on APTuning to get that crap done!
      Then put it all back together...

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      06-30-2010 09:33 PM #55
      Got the header wrapped tonight. I need the tool to tighten the wrap straps... I broke one so now I gotta order more. I think it turned out decent. I'll post some pics then.

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      07-03-2010 08:53 PM #56


      Waiting for more straps...

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      07-08-2010 08:07 PM #57
      Does anyone know where i can get a complete parts list of all the seals and things I would need for a rebuild? I have a FelPro kit # CS26164 but it doesn't include every single thing.

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      07-09-2010 08:31 PM #58
      Love the thread awesome to see another person building a 2.0 good luck!

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      08-16-2010 11:52 AM #59
      Got the block back from the shop. Now waiting on the head and parts.... This had better be good!

      I'm the only one I know of who will be running this valve kit. Also, I don't think anyone else will do it with a stock MK3 mani! i will be eventually going to a modified MK4 but i'm hoping it makes some serious tq down low for daily driving with this mani. My cam will be a mis-match, but well see how it runs.

      How is the baffle setup in the oil pan. There is a baffle that clips onto the pump pickup right? Whats the purpose? I assume to keep the oil in the sump for cornering and such. Is that all?
      Last edited by macanic21; 08-16-2010 at 11:58 AM.

    10. 08-16-2010 12:12 PM #60
      Let me know when you're ready to ditch stock manifolds and want to spend the coin on an SRI. {I.E. when you're ready to make some real hp.)

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      08-17-2010 12:41 PM #61
      I'm pretty sure I won't ever want to do that. If I need more hp than this, I think I'll get something else. It's just not worth it.

    12. 08-17-2010 01:07 PM #62
      Just saying...stock manifolds are a major bottleneck. All that head work and you limit yourself.

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      08-18-2010 11:54 AM #63
      Something is just not rite here with that timing graph. and you were running 87 octane? with 40*+ degrees of time. ?

      i call shenanigans

    14. 08-18-2010 12:17 PM #64
      looking back at that chart, I just noticed that his timing spiked to 40* right when he let off the gas. So he wanst running WOT when it spiked. His timing looks about right under acceleration low-mid 30's.

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      08-19-2010 09:39 PM #65
      Quote Originally Posted by redzone98 View Post
      Something is just not rite here with that timing graph. and you were running 87 octane? with 40*+ degrees of time. ?

      i call shenanigans
      If there are any shenanigans its VAG-COM not me.

      I'm gona swap in a modified MKIV mani once I get it fixed up. We'll see how that goes.

      Got the motor almost ready to come out!

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      08-19-2010 09:46 PM #66
      naaa, its true about the timing relation with being off-FOT. i didnt notice that part.

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      08-23-2010 09:43 AM #67
      Thats OK. I just wanted to type shenanigans.

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      08-23-2010 11:07 AM #68
      Quote Originally Posted by macanic21 View Post
      Thats OK. I just wanted to type shenanigans.


      i know... its a great word !

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      08-24-2010 09:35 PM #69
      APTuning is severely aggravating me! They have screwed around for 2 months getting my parts together. Then I went in last week and they told me "yeah, we have all the stuff but we can't find the cam caps..." Great, now the head I spend weeks on is now junk! I'm going in tomorrow and pick up the parts and I'm not paying for them until they produce a ported 8v head! I'm never going to these people again.

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      08-25-2010 12:08 AM #70
      bah go grab some off a junkyard head and have a shop line-bore the cam journals. easy peasy.

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      08-25-2010 08:40 AM #71
      Quote Originally Posted by macanic21 View Post
      APTuning is severely aggravating me! They have screwed around for 2 months getting my parts together. Then I went in last week and they told me "yeah, we have all the stuff but we can't find the cam caps..." Great, now the head I spend weeks on is now junk! I'm going in tomorrow and pick up the parts and I'm not paying for them until they produce a ported 8v head! I'm never going to these people again.

      wow that is really unprofessional. what a joke

    22. 08-25-2010 09:27 AM #72
      Quote Originally Posted by nextproject View Post
      bah go grab some off a junkyard head and have a shop line-bore the cam journals. easy peasy.
      Yep.

      Get your sh*t back and have them deduct the machining cost of line-boring the new caps on. THen you won't have to deal with them any more.

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      08-25-2010 01:29 PM #73
      Thanks for the advice. I'm going in after work today to smack them around a little. Wish me luck...

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      08-30-2010 10:30 AM #74
      Well, they got a new set of cam caps and are going to align hone them. It should be done by the end of this week I hope. I also got a bunch of parts, clutch, cam ect... I think I'm going to like the clutch!

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      09-01-2010 08:14 AM #75
      Good work mate!

      Im keen to see more updates and pictures.

      We dont get the ABA here in Mk3's so im keen t know more!

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