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Thread: NEW- Lets see your 16V TURBO 16VT with SPECS!

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    11-12-2009 01:37 AM #1
    Since there are a lot of new 16v turbo projects being built/rebuilt and some new parts coming out it's time for another ultimate 16vt info thread (archived?). The point of this thread is to compare setups and offer advice / information.

    Chassis: mk2 gti
    Block: stock 9A
    Pistons: J&E 8.5:1
    Rods: integrated engineering 16v
    Head: 9A (mild port + polish)
    Head gasket: steel ABA w/ arp headstuds
    Cams: autotech euro intake
    Valves: stock w/ supertech springs, Ti retainers
    Intake manifold: eurospeed? (square box with nice stacks inside)
    Throttle body: obd1 vr
    Intercooler: 2.5" in/out REAL thick
    Plumbing: 2.5"
    Bov / dv: synapse
    Exhaust manifold: racecraft log
    Turbocharger: garrett t3/t4 50trim 0.48 ex. (looking for 0.63)
    Wastegate: Tial 38mm
    Downpipe: 3"
    Exhaust: 3" straight
    Management: digi 1 w/ SNS chip
    Injectors: 630cc siemens
    Spark plugs: NGK BKR7E .025" gap
    Flywheel: autotech steel 10lb.
    Clutch: Spec stg.3
    Transmission: ATA 02A (stripped 3rd, going with mk4 vr gears)
    Differential: Peloquin lsd
    Shifter: stock g60 corrado

    Everything else assumed stock.

    No dyno before trans broke (3rd gear), went 12.9@115 on 17psi couldn't boost until 3rd gear without spinning and going nowhere (195 tires and .48 hotside).

    Idles sometimes, currently has no o2 sensor. Wideband gauge between 12.7 and 11.5 under boost.

    Looking to go standalone, 35R or 3076, cams in the future.


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    11-12-2009 11:18 AM #2
    Those are good numbers, a car that me and my bud put together ran 12.7@115 or 117 on street tires back in 2004 with digi1 and 52lb injectors.

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    11-12-2009 12:50 PM #3
    Quote, originally posted by killa »
    Those are good numbers, a car that me and my bud put together ran 12.7@115 or 117 on street tires back in 2004 with digi1 and 52lb injectors.

    What is your opinion on boosting over the 1 bar digi 1 map sensor? I watched the o2 like a hawk at 17psi and it was all good.

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    11-12-2009 01:08 PM #4
    Your oil cooler is mounted incorrectly. Just an FYI. Fittings should come out the top, or side, with the feed being on top (in stand up configuration).

    great numbers.

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    11-12-2009 06:58 PM #5
    Chassis: mk2 gli
    Block: Pl
    Pistons: J&E 8.5:1
    Rods: stock
    Head: 2.0 9A
    Head gasket: All mettle G60, arp headstuds
    Cams: Stock
    Valves: new/stock
    Intake manifold: scirocco
    Throttle body: Jeep 4.0
    Intercooler: Water to air
    Plumbing: 2.5"
    Exhaust manifold: Kinetics
    Turbocharger: Big 16g. (evo)
    Wastegate: Tial 38mm
    Downpipe: Kinetics 2.5"
    Exhaust: 2.5" w/ Magnaflow
    Management: MegasquirtII V 3.0
    Injectors: 42bl
    Spark plugs: NGK
    Flywheel: stock
    Clutch: Stock, slips @ ≈ 10psi. Looking around for something that can handle at least 300whp. Any thoughts? looking at act, clutch net. NOT SPEC.
    Transmission: Stock. (have a completely rebuilt 020 rated for 400, waiting for the right clutch to go in with.
    Lots of typical mods

    Once the tranny and clutch go in, I am ditching the scirocco manifold, intercooler, and pipes. gonna pipe directly into the top of a stock 16v manifold and run WAI, as well as 20psi. Thoughts?

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    Modified by boopizi at 2:58 PM 11-13-2009


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    11-12-2009 09:01 PM #6
    Quote, originally posted by 16V-Dub »

    What is your opinion on boosting over the 1 bar digi 1 map sensor? I watched the o2 like a hawk at 17psi and it was all good.

    we were testing some chips for Danny (John Watts), as far as i can tell he made it so that anything over 14psi would go to a pre-set reading that just ran rich, all we had to do was turn the boost up on race gas until it felt "good"
    keep in mind that widebands were still a bit expensive in 2004.


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    11-23-2009 01:38 PM #7
    Quote, originally posted by boopizi »
    Chassis: mk2 gli

    Clutch: Stock, slips @ ≈ 10psi. Looking around for something that can handle at least 300whp. Any thoughts?

    Centerforce is a good one... I can get a ceramic 4 or 6 puck DISC for 150 with a sprung hub...

    Plenty of parts for sale!

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    11-24-2009 03:38 PM #8
    Good thread.

    Mine:

    Chassis: 82 rabbit with euro front
    Block: 1.8
    Pistons: stock
    Rods: stock
    Head: 16v
    Head gasket: double stack
    Cams: Euro Mark III Digifant (ABF) cams 214° duration @ .050", .423" lift.
    Valves: new/stock
    Intake manifold: scirocco... short runner not installed yet
    Throttle body: rocco... will be 70mm mustang
    Intercooler: srt4
    Plumbing: 2.5"
    Exhaust manifold: custom tubular
    Turbocharger: k26 rebuilt
    Wastegate: audi 5000
    Downpipe: custom 2.5"
    Exhaust: 2.5" w/ borla muffler
    Management: MegasquirtI v2.2
    Injectors: 42bl
    Spark plugs: new... stock
    Flywheel: lightened stock
    Clutch: sachs sport clutch
    Transmission: FN diesel tranny


    Modified by VWeezly at 3:21 PM 11-24-2009


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    11-24-2009 05:53 PM #9
    Nice Mk1!

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    11-24-2009 06:42 PM #10
    Quote, originally posted by dogger »
    Nice Mk1!

    What up bro! Did you ever figure it out?

    Plenty of parts for sale!

  11. 11-25-2009 06:23 PM #11

    96 Gti ABA16vt
    60-1 turbo
    83lb/hr
    digi 1
    GM 3 bar external map sensor
    running on E85

    Fire hydrant surge tank lol
    sorry for the crappy I-phone pics


    Modified by TURBOPHIL at 11:24 PM 11-25-2009

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    11-25-2009 09:45 PM #12
    91 gli 1.8l 16v all stock with 2 head gaskets
    holley commander 950 pro for EMS
    BBM turbo manifold/and down pipe combo
    racecraft intake manifold
    tial 38mm w/g with 21 lbs of springs
    72 bls injectors
    walbro 255l pump with 6AN feed and return
    masterpower turbo very larger t3/to4e
    tt 2.5'' borla s/s exhaust
    6 puck ceramic clutch unsprung




    Modified by Sparknock at 8:00 PM 11-27-2009

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    11-26-2009 03:28 AM #13
    Some big injectors.

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    11-26-2009 07:14 AM #14
    9a stock internals
    aba HG, stock compression
    ported and gasketmatched head
    dual exhaust cams
    kenetic manifold
    td04-14T volvo turbo (internal wastegate and built in bypass valve)
    3"downpipe (Yah that's the turbo outlet size) to soon to be 2.5"exhaust
    eclipse 1g intercooler
    msII v2.2
    55lb low Z injectors
    E85
    g60 TB and some bay clean up since pic

    should be around the 250 hp mark 10-15 psi when tuned.
    can build positive presure below 2k rpm

    '87 rocco ,ABA16VitbT, 9a pistons, dual exhaust cams, megasquirt v2.2 2-extra, E85,
    volvo TD0-14T turbo, celica intercooler, corolla manifold, gsxr itbs, water injection, staged injection.
    exhaust cam mod info: http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?2508013

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    11-27-2009 09:10 PM #15
    Quote, originally posted by dogger »
    Some big injectors.

    i have run this engine on up to 27 lbs of boost...and i got them for a good price

    with great power comes great responsibility......so push the gas pedal to the floor
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    11-27-2009 09:34 PM #16
    Quote, originally posted by Sparknock »

    i have run this engine on up to 27 lbs of boost...and i got them for a good price

    were they new bosch low impedance 72# injectors?

    '87 rocco ,ABA16VitbT, 9a pistons, dual exhaust cams, megasquirt v2.2 2-extra, E85,
    volvo TD0-14T turbo, celica intercooler, corolla manifold, gsxr itbs, water injection, staged injection.
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  17. 11-28-2009 12:16 PM #17
    i like these whoring opportunities
    car 78 rabbit base model.

    motor 2.0 ABA 16v, with 1.8 head and 1.8 PL IM shaft conversion.
    stock bottom end rebuilt head. t3/t4 .57 trim .63 A/R hot, full spool about 32-3300. SDS EFE standalone coil pack fired. #s unknown, no dyno yet, bet VERY soon!!!!1111
    EDIT, FORGOT SOME ISH.
    630 cc Siemens deka high imp.
    Bahn brenner Serial Killa manifold and downpipe,
    full 2.5 turbo back with single magna flow muff.
    020 trans, open diff (soon to be quaif and 02A)



    and a vid on 4 lbs boost
    http://s19.photobucket.com/alb...5.flv


    Modified by kompressorgolf at 11:19 AM 11-28-2009


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    11-28-2009 01:53 PM #18
    absolutly stunning looking rabbit. i want it for me and only me!!!!!
    can you tell me a bit about the turbo exhaust set-up? i am doing the same to my 91 passat
    g6016v turbo with digi 1 set-up

  19. 11-28-2009 02:22 PM #19
    thanks for the props, its actually the full BBM serial killa setup, works fantastic, even at low boost pressure.

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    11-28-2009 07:59 PM #20
    This thread is great.

    Keep the pics and specs coming guys. I want more inspiration.

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    11-28-2009 10:14 PM #21

    Chassis: mk4 jetta wagon
    Block: stock AZG
    Pistons: stock 9A
    Rods: stock 9A
    Head: 9A completely stock
    Head gasket: stock AZG
    Intake manifold: stock 9AIntercooler: stock 1.8T smic
    Plumbing: 2.5"
    Bov / dv: stock 1.8T
    Exhaust manifold: SPA turbo bottom mount
    Turbocharger: ebay T3/T04B H-trim (sold as a T04E )
    Wastegate: internal w/ 7psi spring actuator .63 AR hot
    Boost controller: MBC 17-19psi
    Downpipe: 3" + hi-flo cat
    Exhaust: stock cat-back
    Management: stock 1.8T AWP
    Injectors: 630cc siemens
    Spark plugs: NGK BKR7E .018" gap
    Transmission: stock 02J (1.8T)



    Turbo, manifold, and DP on car:




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    11-29-2009 02:16 AM #22
    Ill play.
    Chasis: Rabbit GTI
    Engine:
    aba/16v done the right way (none of that dizzy gizzy ****)
    garret 50 trim
    Tial 38mm wastegate and bov
    Spearco front mount
    Racetronix 42# injectors w/ 2.2 megatoss
    g60 bellhousing with 95 vr passat gears
    kaaz lsd and trans fluid
    sachs hd vr clutch

    Don't have any dyno numbers as it's getting pulled apart again as we speak, but it has pulled on a z06 and a modded svt cobra, among others

    Pics or it didn't happen

    The car in it's former glory (sorry, I don't have many pics of the car itself):

    Version 2.0 will be out this spring with more power and possibly a bigger turbo

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    11-29-2009 06:33 PM #23
    Quote, originally posted by weeblebiker »

    were they new bosch low impedance 72# injectors?

    no there from racetronix flow matched set.

    Quote, originally posted by kompressorgolf »

    Modified by kompressorgolf at 11:19 AM 11-28-2009

    i have this same bullssshhhiitt
    when i got my set up the manifold was so warped i had to have it shaved .100
    i hate BBM they cant get any thing right.


    Modified by Sparknock at 6:34 PM 11-29-2009


    Modified by Sparknock at 6:36 PM 11-29-2009

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    11-29-2009 07:08 PM #24
    Here's mine:


    (I'll take some new pics once I'm done with the engine bay)

    Factory stock 9A block
    9A head with a mild p&p and valve job, stock everything
    2 ABA headgaskets
    ARP studs
    Modified 20v intake manifold
    Turbonetics log manifold
    Turbonetics BB T3/T04E 57 Trim, .63 hotside, Stage 3 wheel
    Open custom 2.5" DP
    SDS EM3-F V11
    Simens Deka 480CC injectors
    Bosch 044 inline pump, stock intank, SS braided -6AN feed line, Aeromotive FPR, Custom fuel rail.


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    11-30-2009 05:03 PM #25
    wow, nice numbers for a stock 9a block! How many miles on this setup thus far?
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    11-30-2009 05:16 PM #26
    how much boost?

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    11-30-2009 07:41 PM #27
    Quote, originally posted by 16v_HOR »
    wow, nice numbers for a stock 9a block! How many miles on this setup thus far?


    Thanks, It's seen about 5000 miles in total, started off @ around 12psi, it's seen 4000+ miles of 18+psi(310+whp), Lot's of hard driving and 200+km/h pulls, about 20 passes @ the track, etc. It's all in the tune, but I'm not expecting it to last forever. It's getting bigger injectors and more boost soon and probably some water/meth injection.
    400whp was @ 23psi


    Modified by sp_golf at 7:43 PM 11-30-2009
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    Id be curious to know what trans people are using.
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    12-01-2009 12:31 AM #29
    Quote, originally posted by Wermz »
    Id be curious to know what trans people are using.

    That's in the original list, I was curious too.

    I plan on going with an 02j with vr gears if I keep having 02A issues, just don't want to have to buy another diff, already have an 02A peloquin.

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    12-01-2009 01:41 AM #30
    this thread made me happy
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    12-01-2009 02:54 AM #31
    Chassis: mk2 golf GL westmoreland
    Block: ODB I ABA
    Pistons: stock
    Rods: stock
    Head: stock
    Head gasket: steel ABA w/ arp headstuds
    Cams: stock
    Valves: stock
    Intake manifold: custom DTR Performance
    Throttle body: obd1 vr de-ramped
    Intercooler: 2.5" in/out REAL thick
    Plumbing: 2.5"
    Bov / dv: HKS
    Exhaust manifold: custom DTR Performance
    Turbocharger: custom T04e
    Wastegate: Tial 38mm
    Downpipe: 3"
    Exhaust: 3" straight
    Management: 034 Motorsports Ic
    Spark plugs: FR5DTC
    Flywheel: autotech steel 10lb.
    Clutch: Spec stg.4
    Transmission: Crytreated 02A
    Differential: Peloquin lsd
    Shifter: stock g60 corrado

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    12-01-2009 07:01 AM #32
    Quote, originally posted by Wermz »
    Id be curious to know what trans people are using.

    umm i have a ACN 020 in the car at the moment

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    12-01-2009 03:34 PM #33
    I'll play but it's been a while since I've done anything new to the car (working on changing that now).


    Specs:
    1990 Corrado, full weight with AC, leather, no interior removed (for now)

    Engine
    2008cc 9A 16v
    9:1 compression JE pistons
    Pauter rods
    ARP head/main/rod hardware
    Slight port/polish on the head
    Autotech AST cams and adjustable gear

    Turbo
    SC61 with .63 AR hotside
    Spearco IC
    Tial 44mm WG
    Tial BOV
    AMS tubular cast manifold
    BDP short runner
    BDP 3" downpipe and exhaust

    Management & Fueling
    Autronic SMC
    Autronic R500 CDI with sequential ignition
    Crane LX92 coils with Magnecore wires
    Delphi 96# injectors
    Apexi AVCR for gear based boost
    NGK R5671A plugs

    Transmission/Drivetrain/Suspension
    02A with CCM VR6 gearing
    4.24 final
    Quaife ATB
    Clutchnet red PP and 6 puck sprung disc
    02J shift tower/shifter with Diesel Geek Sigma 5 SS
    DSS Axles
    Powerflex bushings
    Bilstein PSS9s

    Edit:
    Specs in the format being used in this thread

    Chassis: Corrado
    Block: 9A
    Pistons: 83mm JE 9:1
    Rods: Pauter 16v
    Head: 9A (mild port + polish)
    Head gasket: steel ABA w/ arp headstuds
    Cams: autotech sport cam set
    Valves: stock w/ autotech springs
    Intake manifold: BDP short runner, 4" plenum
    Throttle body: obd1 vr
    Intercooler: Spearco
    Plumbing: 2.5"
    Bov / dv: Tial 50mm
    Exhaust manifold: AMS cast tubular modified for Tial 44mm
    Turbocharger: Precision SC61 with .63 ar hotside
    Wastegate: Tial 44mm
    Downpipe: 3"
    Exhaust: 3" with single Borla and 3" resonator
    Management: Autronic SMC with Autronic R500 CDI
    Injectors: 96# Delphi low imp
    Spark plugs: NGK R5671A .022" gap
    Flywheel: steel 10lb.
    Clutch: Clutchnet red PP with 6 puck sprung hub disc
    Transmission: 02A with CCM VR6 gearing, 4.24 final drive
    Differential: Quaife lsd
    Shifter: 02J shifter, tower with Diesel Geek Sigma 5 SS




    Modified by radoboy at 3:42 PM 12-1-2009


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    12-01-2009 07:50 PM #34
    Damn! glad to see so manny more on the road!

    Update (for anyone who might care)
    Got my stage 2 act clutch in the mail.
    WAI Installed. I will post up pics soon I am proud of my instal


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    12-01-2009 07:58 PM #35
    post it up!
    pm for air freshener installs. master certified, high rates.

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