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    04-06-2013 10:42 PM #1646
    Quote Originally Posted by 86Franklin View Post
    Same thing that happened to me when I got my car going. I ended up using a permatex or something of that sort to get a leak free manifold. :/ But it Idles where it needs to except when letting off the throttle slowly then it Idles about 300rpm higher. Weak return spring I think:/

    Edit: permatex not permitted
    Put the new gasket on today, what a difference! Lol it actually idles wherever I want now! Still has minor leaks so gonna do the same and add some gasket sealer to it too this week. Drive it to work fine. Only problem I have is I'm still lean at idle. It's around 16 or so on the wide band. Cruising down the road I'm in the 14's. wot it goes down to low 13s I believe. As she I let off the gas it seems to slowly rev down. Not sure on that yet. Pic from the first drive today in almost two months!



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    04-07-2013 04:21 PM #1647
    Holy crap you're low haha. Glad to hear that you got it running. If the gasket sealer doesn't solve you're lean issue, how many turns out are you on your idle screws?

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    04-08-2013 01:32 AM #1648
    Quote Originally Posted by 86Franklin View Post
    Holy crap you're low haha. Glad to hear that you got it running. If the gasket sealer doesn't solve you're lean issue, how many turns out are you on your idle screws?
    I'm out to 4, so I'm thinking gasket maker, then next size up on jets. Most people I saw and like the earlier post are like 3-3.75 I think.

  4. 04-08-2013 09:07 PM #1649
    does anyone happen to have a flange they'd sell me? Nobody around here in NOVA wants to mess with making one for me. Don't need anything uber pretty, but hoping to get something functional

    cbr900 carbs on a 2.0 in a mk2 golf.

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    04-08-2013 10:40 PM #1650
    Quote Originally Posted by mikes86lego View Post
    does anyone happen to have a flange they'd sell me? Nobody around here in NOVA wants to mess with making one for me. Don't need anything uber pretty, but hoping to get something functional

    cbr900 carbs on a 2.0 in a mk2 golf.
    This is where I got mine from:

    http://www.weir-tech.com/volkswagen/

    If you get the aba flange from him just tell him you need the spots cut out for the spark plug wires. He did it for me. Not sure why he has it solid.

  6. 04-08-2013 11:04 PM #1651
    wonder why the 8v crossflow one has that weird dip? any ideas? also, emailed you bout it.

    danke!

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    04-09-2013 12:41 AM #1652
    Quote Originally Posted by mikes86lego View Post
    wonder why the 8v crossflow one has that weird dip? any ideas? also, emailed you bout it.

    danke!
    I know I answered in the email but that's not for an aba. I don't know what that ones is, you want the head flange:

    http://www.weir-tech.com/volkswagen/.../8-mild-steel/

    And I emailed him asking why it is solid where spark plugs go and he wouldn't answer the question but said he would cut it that way. Came out like this:

  8. 04-13-2013 03:06 PM #1653
    I ordered a victor reinz MLS head gasket OEM for a ABA engine, for my 9A.
    It lines up ok should work fine but the water channels are just round rather than conforming to the tryangle-ish shape on the block and head. Won't flow as well but looks useable.
    Question is, haw many of these layers do I realy need? Looks to me like alot of them are just for filler. Am I wrong?

  9. 04-28-2013 05:17 PM #1654
    I installed the rebuilt head.
    The "euro spec" (re-ground exhaust cam) intake cam was junk. The profile didn't look right from the start but once I installed it it slammed against the lifters clattering like a dry diesel fuel pump, only louder. So I installed a stock intake cam and it purrs again.
    I checked my oil pressure to make sure the lifters were getting enough juice after I heard the ruckous, with a mechanical guage, (I was pretty sure my electronic guage didn't work becaust it was always pegged at 100psi) my oil pressure was way over spec 150 to 200 psi easy 100 at idle. I guess the relief valve on the oil pump failed, which explains alot.
    It will cut out and die seamingly out of nowhere and the starter motor can hardly even crank it until it sits for a while because the oil pump gets compression stuck.
    Too much oil pressure, I didn't see it coming.
    Next week new oil pump.... And windage baffle.....maby more..

  10. 04-29-2013 10:19 AM #1655
    What oil are you running? Are these pressures cold or warmed up?

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    04-29-2013 10:32 AM #1656
    Quote Originally Posted by craigerk View Post
    Put the new gasket on today, what a difference! Lol it actually idles wherever I want now! Still has minor leaks so gonna do the same and add some gasket sealer to it too this week. Drive it to work fine. Only problem I have is I'm still lean at idle. It's around 16 or so on the wide band. Cruising down the road I'm in the 14's. wot it goes down to low 13s I believe. As she I let off the gas it seems to slowly rev down. Not sure on that yet. Pic from the first drive today in almost two months!


    thats awesome...nice job...

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    04-30-2013 03:06 PM #1657
    Anyone wanna buy these??? 00 r1 carbs?? $220 shipped






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    04-30-2013 04:28 PM #1658
    there is a for sale section in the carb area. and 220 seems pretty high for a set of carbs

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    04-30-2013 04:36 PM #1659
    Quote Originally Posted by max and tiny View Post
    there is a for sale section in the carb area. and 220 seems pretty high for a set of carbs

    they go anywhere from 100-200
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    05-04-2013 10:04 AM #1660
    Quote Originally Posted by mikes86lego View Post
    wonder why the 8v crossflow one has that weird dip? any ideas? also, emailed you bout it.

    danke!
    That flange is improperly labeled, that is a counterflow (1.8L) 8V flange, not crossflow (ABA 2.0L) flange.
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  16. 05-04-2013 01:18 PM #1661
    the clarity on said subject is appreciated. thanks Saabman!

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    05-06-2013 02:18 PM #1662
    this thread has alot of great info in it! im wondering if anyone has any experience running e85 through these things?

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    05-07-2013 12:30 PM #1663
    Ethanol likes to eat raw aluminium. You could anodize the carbs and you should be OK but its probably not worth it.

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    05-10-2013 10:57 AM #1664
    i wouldnt run this on a car i drive everyday, but id have a switch to shut off the fuel pump and run the carbs dry so the fuel wont just sit in the carbs. it will absolutely eat gaskets if it sits in there, but ive never heard of it eating the aluminum. i have a kart that runs on methanol and aside from the gaskets in the carb getting hard ive never noticed any sort of pits in the polished I.D. of the carb from fuel. im not saying your wrong, but ethanol and methanol are very similar and i was curious as to why methanol doesnt harm the aluminum in my cart, but ethanol would. e85 and carbs would be a pita to start up, but having the ability to run a real high compression bottom end and being able to handle some extra timing seems like it could net some healthy gains. chances are im just gonna give it a shot and see what happens. after all, all i gotta do is swap jets assuming a carter can flow enough. its not like its a big turbo car thats gonna need a ton of extra fuel. im just thinking out loud. any input is appreciated. id really like to hear from someone that has experimented with this before.

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    05-10-2013 06:41 PM #1665
    That's just what I have heard from a instructor I had at school that races super modified's. I could be wrong though on the fuel type.

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    05-11-2013 11:37 AM #1666
    im pretty sure that they run methanol, like my kart. and he could be correct. im new to the methanol stuff as my kart is the first toy ive had that doesnt use gas. and since the super mods run meth he could be right. idk im gonna give it a shot someday and see how it holds up. fortunately these bike carbs are relatively cheap so if i did need some new bodies it wont cost much. i have a feeling it will take a long time for the ethanol to eat the aluminum. not to mention alot of these old heads will find all kinds of **** to blame on the "up to 10% ethanol added" gas.

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    05-11-2013 02:16 PM #1667
    Idk but try it and if it works great one more thing to do to my car

  23. 05-12-2013 07:18 PM #1668
    How long does it usualy take to get the the warm up calibration on a Innovative LC-1 wideband air fuel set-up?
    I'm also looking to upgrade my front upper strut mounts and I'm seeing alot more options than I expected. I hear that the mk3 or the vr6 mounts work well, but I want to know better which is best before I but there seems to be more than one option, which I didn't expect, but maby there are just alot of misrepresentative pictutes on ebay listings. A part # or a make and model refrence or I guess and hope for the best.
    I'm currently running vr6 corrado monro struts with b3 gli passat springs on mk2 upper mounts and it's harsh, I need softer upper mount and cut the springs a bit.

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    05-12-2013 07:51 PM #1669
    Quote Originally Posted by vrally View Post
    How long does it usualy take to get the the warm up calibration on a Innovative LC-1 wideband air fuel set-up?
    I'm also looking to upgrade my front upper strut mounts and I'm seeing alot more options than I expected. I hear that the mk3 or the vr6 mounts work well, but I want to know better which is best before I but there seems to be more than one option, which I didn't expect, but maby there are just alot of misrepresentative pictutes on ebay listings. A part # or a make and model refrence or I guess and hope for the best.
    I'm currently running vr6 corrado monro struts with b3 gli passat springs on mk2 upper mounts and it's harsh, I need softer upper mount and cut the springs a bit.
    When I setup my lc1 it only took a couple mins total for the whole calibration start to finish.

    I have vr6(late mk3) heavy duty front strut mounts and stock mk3 rear mounts. Rides fine but I'm also on air ride.

    I've cut a few sets of springs and never liked it since some times when you jack it up or it jostles around too much the spring falls off the perch and possibly down a coil or two.

    Just my 2 cents

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    05-12-2013 08:01 PM #1670
    Quote Originally Posted by vrally View Post
    How long does it usualy take to get the the warm up calibration on a Innovative LC-1 wideband air fuel set-up?
    I'm also looking to upgrade my front upper strut mounts and I'm seeing alot more options than I expected. I hear that the mk3 or the vr6 mounts work well, but I want to know better which is best before I but there seems to be more than one option, which I didn't expect, but maby there are just alot of misrepresentative pictutes on ebay listings. A part # or a make and model refrence or I guess and hope for the best.
    I'm currently running vr6 corrado monro struts with b3 gli passat springs on mk2 upper mounts and it's harsh, I need softer upper mount and cut the springs a bit.
    i run vr6 strut mounts. not idea what the part number is.
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  26. 05-13-2013 07:25 PM #1671
    Thanks guys, I found the lc-1 manual online since my computer is too old for the disk that came with it, windows xp must pre-date win 98 ( I'm not a computer guy) 9 blinks is low voltage my reverse light sensor was shorting out. I'm glad I now know.
    I'll do the mk3 lowering upper perches with the mount, I don't think they should come off if I cut the springs in line with the axis of the origional position, I'll check out the blackforest link but it sounds like it shouldn't make much diffrence if I'm hearing you right, my poly lower bushings I'm sure play a role in my current discomfort with my set up. I'll play with it and see what I like.
    Thanks for the input.

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    05-13-2013 07:28 PM #1672
    A couple from the BeMoreEuro meet this weekend couple hundred miles on it this weekend, was good to get it out of the driveway


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    05-14-2013 01:06 AM #1673
    Quote Originally Posted by yeayeayea View Post
    A couple from the BeMoreEuro meet this weekend couple hundred miles on it this weekend, was good to get it out of the driveway


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    Quote Originally Posted by vrally View Post
    I'll do the mk3 lowering upper perches with the mount, I don't think they should come off if I cut the springs in line with the axis of the origional position, I'll check out the blackforest link but it sounds like it shouldn't make much diffrence if I'm hearing you right, my poly lower bushings I'm sure play a role in my current discomfort with my set up. I'll play with it and see what I like.
    Thanks for the input.
    Cutting the springs will help your ride height, but not your ride quality. The shorter you make the spring the higher the rate (stiffer) the spring gets. I've cut plenty of springs over the years with no ill effects, unless you go too far. The springs on my MK3 daily get a little loose in the strut when the suspension is fully unloaded (car jacked up), but it never sees that in standard use. Almost 4 years on this suspension and I've never had a coil unseat while driving the car. Just remember, you can always take more, but you can't put it back. Use a high speed cutoff wheel, and I usually go in 1/2 wind increments. I'm also usually trimming front springs to match sagging rears for a quick/cheap improvement in appearance.

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