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    Thread: Switching to Bike Carbs. Heres a write up!

    1. Member 86Franklin's Avatar
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      01-10-2010 01:39 AM #101
      i was just wondering cause i found a few at some local stores (not carter) that were around $50. everyone on here says, thats what to use. so im just trying to figure out if its worth ordering or just going with one of the ones i found locally.

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      01-10-2010 12:43 PM #102
      I have thought of going to the local auto parts store to get a fuel pump but i dont know how much i can trust one of those things. I'd rather just stick to something that people have used and works for em.
      If other people have used them and say they work i suppose you should give it a try!

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      01-10-2010 04:57 PM #103
      Thats what i use CarQuest brand low pressure pump. I bought 2 just in case but have never needed the second one yet. 3 years i believe i've been running it now.
      I love the Ls series of motors my next project will involve one for sure...in a 3 gen RX-7 of some sort
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      1. Buy car you're unfamiliar with 2. Buy turbo, having no knowledge of turbos or cars 3. Buy bolts and bolt on turbo 4. Tow-truck drivers and mechanics profit.
      Did I miss anything?

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      01-10-2010 11:41 PM #104
      You wanting to get that extra pump off your hands?
      Id like to get some engineering skills and some day build a RWD LS1 Caddy. I know... non german engine in a VW... but imagine catching EVERYONE off guard!

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      01-11-2010 06:38 PM #105
      I went through 2 cheaper pumps before the carter, 1 off ebay, rotary vain like the carter, it was junk. The second was the Mr. Gasket 4-7 psi. After fueling issues with both, I bought the carter. Works awesome!
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      01-12-2010 12:30 AM #106
      Ha Ha maybe i should reconsider the cheaper pump....
      Page 4 SIKKKK

    7. 01-12-2010 06:59 AM #107
      This is Great post. Do you mind putting up a list of what was required for this build. Maybe some prices too. Wanting to do one of the three, but this seems the best.

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      01-14-2010 11:14 PM #108
      Carbs: $130 (You can find them cheaper)
      Pump: $70
      FPR: $40
      Manifold: $20 and an In-and-Out Burger
      Silicone couplers: $10
      Fuel Hose: $15
      Fuel Gauge: $25
      NPT Fittings: $15
      Air Filters: $70
      Air Filter Oil: $10
      Vacuum Hose: $10
      Fuel Filter: $5
      Pipe Clamps: $15
      Prices arent exact, but close. Total comes out to around $435. Not bad considering its a whole fuel system. Starts right up every time! [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]

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      01-19-2010 10:35 AM #109
      What year R1 did the carbs come from... 98-01?
      Im thinking of doing this in the future and im going to starts collecting parts... btw thanks for the thread really helps...

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      01-19-2010 03:48 PM #110
      Yep, 98-01.
      Searcing for good info can be difficult, so i tried to get it all in one place

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      01-19-2010 03:59 PM #111
      Yeah, I'm not suprised FROZEN had issues with a Mr. Gasket pump, they're pretty crappy. Heard of a lot of people having problems with them on various vehicles.
      I'm still planning on giving the CIS pump and bypass regulator a shot. Really just don't want to have to re-do the fuel lines at this point!

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      01-19-2010 04:41 PM #112
      Mr. Gasket pump was a try at keeping things under $300!! FAIL!
      Anyone looking for carbs, I have 2 sets (not selling the other!) both off ebay for under $50 each shipped. When you do get the carbs, or ask before you buy, they came with adjustable needles, will make tuning easy, one set I bought did not have the stock needles in them. I have not priced new/adjustable set yet either.
      You dont have to re-do your fuel lines at all to make it work, I'm running off the "end" of the hard line on the drivers side. I am going to re-do it after its running right and the bay is finished, just not that big a deal right now.
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      01-19-2010 05:07 PM #113
      for the fuel line i cut the soft line (for the return line) off the barb fitting where it bolts to the hard line. then put the barb fitting on the feed line and ran soft to my carbs. now i just need to cap the return line so it doesnt leak fumes. after i get that all i need is the aluminum water neck i bought to arrive so i can have it cut and welded differently to clear my carbs. also for my uncle to come and make me a throttle cable.

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      01-19-2010 05:18 PM #114
      Looks like its time for a throttle cable post, ill go take some pics.

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      01-19-2010 07:34 PM #115
      Im ready to buy a set off you Frozen, let me know how we can do that...
      thanks

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      01-19-2010 09:25 PM #116
      Throttle cable time! To be able to make a proper throttle cable you need only two things: A stock cable, and some cable stoppers. You need the specific kind i posted a picture of on here. I suggest buying a throttle cable to a diesel rabbit since they are long enough to easily reach the front of the engine.

      First thing youll have to do is cut the cable stop off the throttle or diesel pump (depending on what cable you get) side of the cable. Cut it as close as you can.
      Then pull the cable out of the guide so you can trim the guide. Put the guide in the firewall and cut it so that it fits in to where the throttle cable holder is on the carbs.
      Once the cutting is complete you can insert the cable back in to the guide on the pedal side of the firewall. Put the hook on the cable in to the busing on the pedal lever.
      Now wrap the cable around the throttle lever on the carbs and then put one of the cable stops on there. The cable stop may be a little big for the spot on the throttle lever, all you have to do is file the stop down a little evenly on all sides. Once the cable stop is where you want it, leave it attached to the cable and then take it off the carbs. Tighten the screw down as much as you can and then cut the screw flush with the brass part of the stop. The reason for this is that the screw will hit the carbs when the throttle is part of the way open.
      Finally you can put the cable back on to the carbs! There ya go!
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      Modified by Miami Blue at 6:27 PM 1-19-2010

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      01-19-2010 10:46 PM #117
      where did you get those? i've been looking for something similar but having a hard time. i was going to use a solder on end but if i can find those id go that route.

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      01-19-2010 11:01 PM #118
      I ordered them off here: http://www.oreillyauto.com/sit...C0142

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      01-20-2010 12:51 AM #119
      Quote, originally posted by GoFaster »
      Something's been bugging me, and I just put my finger on it ...
      Are you planning to mount these carbs horizontally, or vertically (in the same orientation as the photos a few posts up?
      Those carbs are designed to be downdraft carbs, as are most late model Yamaha sport bike carbs.
      I do not know what will happen if you try to mount them in side-draft orientation. You might want to pull one of those float bowls off (easy, 4 screws) and see what's going on in there. It could possibly still work, but you need to make sure the jets will still be submerged, the vent is NOT submerged, and that the floats will work correctly in that orientation.

      Modified by GoFaster at 5:34 PM 12-27-2009

      Hey... what ever happened to this guy?...

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      01-20-2010 06:13 AM #120
      When I did my cable, I used a TON of JB Weld! Only because when I floored it, the cable pulled out EVERYTIME I put JB Weld in the cable end, from both sides, before putting the set screw in. Let it set for a few days (better safe then buying another cable!) and ground off the head of the set screw and hand sanded the brass till it rolled smooth in the wheel.

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      01-20-2010 07:49 AM #121
      I wonder if solder would also do the trick.... Ill try it out when i go to do my permanant throttle cable.

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      01-20-2010 10:45 AM #122
      I read up on soldering a cable end, if you google "homemade/custom cables" there are a few good sites. However, the best way, from what I found, was to use a cool guy solder pot thingy and dip it in. I looked for a place around me that had one, S.O.L. There is NOTHING where I live . . . So I did the cable end and JB Weld and it is wicked strong! If there is a GOOD bike shop around, they should have the stuff to custom make a cable from scratch.
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      01-20-2010 12:17 PM #123
      Does anyone have any carbs for sale? or were to find them for not too too expensive, from what im seeing, their around the 220cnd mark for me... im looking to spend 150ish max
      thanks

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      01-20-2010 03:15 PM #124
      ebay or try and find a bike yard some where and pull some off of a 90s bike

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      01-20-2010 08:27 PM #125
      Youve had good luck with the JB weld so ill give that a shot when its time!
      FROZEN has some carbs for sell...

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