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    Thread: Switching to Bike Carbs. Heres a write up!

    1. Junior Member soaker's Avatar
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      02-05-2010 12:23 AM #141
      Has anyone done this carb set up on a 1.8 8V motor(JH in a 1984 GTI)? I am ready to go ahead with it but some input would be nice. Already have the carbs and the CIS stuffs out of the car.


      Modified by soaker at 8:25 PM 2-4-2010

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      02-05-2010 02:30 AM #142
      will this dist work for my 2.0L 16v swap http://cgi.ebay.ca/1984-Saab-9...t_956

      thanks


    3. 02-05-2010 03:14 AM #143
      Quote, originally posted by soaker »
      Has anyone done this carb set up on a 1.8 8V motor(JH in a 1984 GTI)? I am ready to go ahead with it but some input would be nice. Already have the carbs and the CIS stuffs out of the car.


      Modified by soaker at 8:25 PM 2-4-2010

      Ditto this, Id like to see it.

      Considered this first, going downdraft weber instead


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      02-05-2010 02:02 PM #144
      i'm sure you could do this on a counter flow head, especially since it has been done with dual webers. i would look into a heat shield for the exhaust though. and maybe find a way to route cooler air to them.

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      02-05-2010 03:33 PM #145
      Nope, you need the Saab 16v distributor.

    6. 02-05-2010 06:32 PM #146
      Quote, originally posted by franque »
      Nope, you need the Saab 16v distributor.

      More info? Youve done this?


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      02-06-2010 04:44 AM #147
      Nope, since I have R1 Carbs, I am going EDIS/Megajolt.
      This guy did: http://forums.vwvortex.com/zer...age=3

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      02-06-2010 05:26 PM #148
      in that thread they say the 8v saab dist fits not the 16v saab dist....

      the 8v saab dist is the same look as the 16v vw dist...


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      02-21-2010 12:53 AM #149
      i have a question for you guys. i finally tried to start my car today. i tried for like and hour, it is getting fuel and spark but hasnt fired once. is it just cause it is hasnt ever been run since the rebuild? tomorrow im going to check the ignition timing and see how close it is. just thought id ask to see if you had any suggestions.

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      02-23-2010 05:25 PM #150
      Quote, originally posted by 86Franklin »
      i have a question for you guys. i finally tried to start my car today. i tried for like and hour, it is getting fuel and spark but hasnt fired once. is it just cause it is hasnt ever been run since the rebuild? tomorrow im going to check the ignition timing and see how close it is. just thought id ask to see if you had any suggestions.

      Check timing, check throttle position/choke, etc. Air, fuel, and spark are required, sounds like you have them all, just not at the right times.


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      02-23-2010 10:36 PM #151
      it was the ign. timing but i got it sorted out just need to get better plugs one doesn't want to fire all the time :/

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      03-02-2010 01:28 PM #152
      Hey, Miami, any updates? Still running on the same jetting size? MPGs still good? You running a wideband or have it dyno'd w/wideband for an idea of how the AFRs are?

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      03-05-2010 06:01 PM #153
      Hello! I am waiting for my brother to have time to weld an 02 sensor bung in to my exhaust, so i have not tuned the carbs yet. So i am still running the same jet size. MPG's are great! Ive been getting around 26MPG I havent even had to touch the carbs since i installed, just show them off!

      I dont have money for wideband right now so im going to use a regular A/F ratio gauge to get the carbs close.

      Im still Xtreamly happy with this set up, havent even thought about going back to CIS


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      03-07-2010 07:44 PM #154
      miami what did you do to get your oil and water gauges to work. my oil gauge is bouncing back and forth and my temp gauge maxes out with just the ignition on.

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      03-08-2010 02:24 AM #155
      My gauges are both mechanical (only thing electrical is for lighting) so its just a matter of putting them in the right place on the engine. Id certainly be happy to help you out though. Easy things first, check for good connections. If that doesnt work check the schematics for the gauges to make sure they are wired up correctly. And if that doesnt work i.m. me and we will get it figured out.

      When does the oil gauge bounce back and forth? All the time?
      Temp gauge sensor input wire could be hooked up to constant 12V with ignition on.


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      03-08-2010 02:28 AM #156

      little update on my engine.. Im trying to get my hands on a saab 16v distributer. No one seems to really know if it works or not so im going to just try it out for my self.

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      03-08-2010 05:42 AM #157
      tomorrow im going to mess with my oil and water temp gauges. also i picked up a saab 8v distributor not the 16v one because it wont work. but it bolts up pretty well theres not near as much timing adjustment compared to a stock dist since there are three mounting points instead of just the two. also i noticed that the the rotor on the saab dist is about a 1/4 turn more than the stock dist. so youll have to move your plug wires so its firing the correct piston. i haven't ran it with the new dist yet but i will try when i get a new rotor. if you want pics on how it mounts let me know. also i need the female plug end for the hall sender off of the dist but having trouble finding one.


      Modified by 86Franklin at 4:47 AM 3-8-2010

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      03-08-2010 10:32 PM #158
      Do you have the same engine as me? 2.0 16v? Or do you have an 8v engine? Im thinking ill need the 16v dist if i have a 16v head right? Please post pics!

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      03-09-2010 12:35 AM #159
      I have have a 1.8 16v. And its opposite for saabs the 8v dist runs off the cam like the old vw 1.1 L engines. And the saab 16v valve dist mounts in the block like current vw 8v engines. I can post pics of the saab 8v dist I have if you would like.

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      03-09-2010 01:42 AM #160
      Please do!

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      03-09-2010 03:21 AM #161
      ok here is comparison shots of the 1986 saab 900 nonturbo 8v dist and vw 1.8/2.0 16v dist.

      here is a side view to get an idea of how long the vacuum adv. dist is from the saab.

      here is the mounting side. note both of the dist. are at the same position

      now here is the rotor side. notice how the saab dist. is almost 180* off.

      hall plug for the saab dist.

      hall plug for the vw dist.


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      03-09-2010 03:41 AM #162
      i was wrong actually about the saab 16v dist mounting in the block. it still mounts on the head but nothing like a vw 16v.


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      03-09-2010 04:31 PM #163
      Hmmm.. very interesting. So i wonder if anyone has actually tried using one of the saab distributors. Whenever you try it out let us know, that would be a cheap route to get timing advance rather than electronic advance.

      Thanks for posting the pics! They definantly look similar...


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      03-09-2010 11:53 PM #164
      i will once i find a plug ha. and the ssab 8v dist is identical to the 1.1-1.3l vw 8v dist except with the right plug. and those have been used im pretty sure.

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      03-10-2010 02:55 PM #165
      Damn, just sold my SAAB with a dist or two in the back of it.

      Thanks, Miami, what I wanted to hear! The search is on for some carbs for my Cabby!


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      03-11-2010 12:33 AM #166
      Woop Woop!

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      03-21-2010 09:40 PM #167
      After having read many of the posts, it's still not clear if Yamaha R1 carbs are a good choice for a 1.8 8v COUNTERFLOW engine? I fitted some Mikuni carbs, but I'm having a series of problems and would like to fit R1 carbs instead... any comments, please?

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      03-21-2010 11:03 PM #168
      what kind of problems are you having? if its clearance issues the r1 carbs wont be that different if you are using the same manifold.

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      03-26-2010 04:10 PM #169
      2001 YZF R1 carbs shipped Wednesday from Cali, should arrive Monday! $99.99 + $17 shipping with throttle and choke cables. Woot! I'm excited! Pulled out my intake manifold materials Weds night and started checking things out/mocking up things should work oh-so nicely! I'm pumped!

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      03-27-2010 12:40 AM #170
      thats awesome. started breaking in my car today. gotta re-torque then head the start her back up. then i can take it for the first drive

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      03-27-2010 07:26 PM #171
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      03-27-2010 08:52 PM #172
      I've got enough stuff to keep me occupied once the carbs get here to not have to worry about a fuel pump and regulator just yet.

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      03-29-2010 03:58 PM #173
      Carbs showed up this morning!

      Choke cable and mechanism all there, not throttle cable, but has the throttle stop screw cable/adjuster setup still on it. Back a few pages to look over the what's-what pics and labels and go over some of those "how-to" links!


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      03-30-2010 01:06 AM #174
      nice! got them mounted yet

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      03-30-2010 02:56 PM #175
      LOL! Not quite, but going to be working on that tomorrow on my day off, for sure! I should be able to get everything mocked up and ready to take to the welder.

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