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      those welds look great! maybe i will have you weld something for me, my ish looks beat, but it's functional

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      10-02-2010 10:02 PM #108
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      o sick FMIC. end tank slightly changed on the base since mine. maybe ill find a use for it again someday
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      those welds look great! maybe i will have you weld something for me, my ish looks beat, but it's functional
      Bump for Arnolds Great service and BRUTE rods

      Here my recent PPG upgrades and engine freshening in his new shop Bob.G

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      10-22-2010 10:50 AM #110
      Thanks Bob. Just recently had to service a top mounted turbo setup from a local vehicle. Valve cover was professionally powdercoated. Turbo is around 2.5" away from the head. Gasket always gets soft and leaky on that side. Powder rated at 300deg's before it gets soft and around 500-550deg's before it burns off. After taking off the valve cover, we noticed some bubbling on the inside of the valve cover and put it through the parts washer and noticed it had bubbled and lifted from the surface. With oil splashing around in there, the valve cover must've been a huge heat sink once the turbo was at operating temps. If you're into the top mounted thing, cover it ppl...

      Side where turbo is...



      Front of engine...

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      I dont ever paint internal surfaces..

      thought that was obvious

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      10-22-2010 11:20 AM #112
      Quote Originally Posted by badger5 View Post
      I dont ever paint internal surfaces..

      thought that was obvious

      That wasnt the point bill. Paint or no, it doesnt change the fact what heat will do, even w/ oil splashing and cooling around in there. This is just visual evidence... Oil will be picking up this heat and elevating oil temps as well
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    8. 10-22-2010 01:31 PM #113
      Looking great Arnold, keep up the excellent work!

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      10-23-2010 05:15 PM #115
      so what are you saying arnold? insufficient heat shielding on their to begin with?

      i thought you were pointing out paint blistering on internal surface, which is more damaging from paint flake debris in the oil system, that hot oil... which is dealt with by adequate oil cooling
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      10-24-2010 01:00 AM #116
      Yes, just pointing out what heat does. If the coating (which is rated at 550deg's) comes off, you'll have oil that picks this up. Hot oil tends to lose viscosity which is damaging to an engine and even the turbo. The coating didnt actually come off. It was blistered and the solvent from the cleaning actually finished the job. But, you're right, I wouldnt paint the inside of the cover. This cover just happened to be coated when we took it off to change a heat damaged valve cover gasket (although this coating would never come off if you're not applying this much heat to it)

      BTW, oil cooling should be a benefit to additional power, not preventative maintenance because your setup has flaws...
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      10-25-2010 03:28 AM #117
      Quote Originally Posted by AL@PagParts.com View Post
      Yes, just pointing out what heat does. If the coating (which is rated at 550deg's) comes off, you'll have oil that picks this up. Hot oil tends to lose viscosity which is damaging to an engine and even the turbo. The coating didnt actually come off. It was blistered and the solvent from the cleaning actually finished the job. But, you're right, I wouldnt paint the inside of the cover. This cover just happened to be coated when we took it off to change a heat damaged valve cover gasket (although this coating would never come off if you're not applying this much heat to it)

      BTW, oil cooling should be a benefit to additional power, not preventative maintenance because your setup has flaws...
      no coincidence mines run oil cooler for years then -
      On the BT builds I have done, a lot of time has to go into heatshielding anything within eyesight of the turbo/manifold.. Racing showed me if its in line of sight and meltable, it will melt, its just a question of when.. This is what surprises me when people supply parts like on union oil fittings for example, with swivles, and internal seals onto the chra... they do go on to weep when cooked, and they do cook! Same thing on oil drains, amazed at what people believe a braided covered rubber hose passing rigth past the manifold is supposed to cope with heat wise.. beggars belief, and scares the pants off me.

      Your welding is so neat
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      10-25-2010 08:44 AM #118
      Quote Originally Posted by badger5 View Post
      no coincidence mines run oil cooler for years then -
      On the BT builds I have done, a lot of time has to go into heatshielding anything within eyesight of the turbo/manifold.. Racing showed me if its in line of sight and meltable, it will melt, its just a question of when.. This is what surprises me when people supply parts like on union oil fittings for example, with swivles, and internal seals onto the chra... they do go on to weep when cooked, and they do cook! Same thing on oil drains, amazed at what people believe a braided covered rubber hose passing rigth past the manifold is supposed to cope with heat wise.. beggars belief, and scares the pants off me.

      Your welding is so neat
      I've always known you 'get it' bill As for those swivels, you're dead on. The only swivel I use on any of the lines are by the oil pan

      I do the things that I do because I've thought it through. I could've delivered eye candy, but that will never get in the way of practicality for me. You'll never see me do a setup where the return line is over 1.5 feet long and passing by runners. You'll never see me place turbos by harnesses and anywhere near gaskets and fluids. Do you know how many intercooler pipes I have seen pass through the shop where the cold side would be touching or right by the upper rad hose? Where the ecu would be pulling timing at idle?... It goes on and on...
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      10-27-2010 10:18 PM #119
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      Bump for Arnolds Great service and BRUTE rods

      Here my recent PPG upgrades and engine freshening in his new shop Bob.G

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      nice set up bob!

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      10-28-2010 06:06 AM #120
      Quote Originally Posted by 18T_BT View Post
      nice set up bob!
      Thanx

      Where just begining, we have ALOT of changes coming to my setup this up coming year . Bob.G

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      Quote Originally Posted by rracerguy717 View Post
      Thanx

      Where just begining, we have ALOT of changes coming to my setup this up coming year . Bob.G
      Yes, and lots of changes to the shop as well... dyno included
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      11-18-2010 06:46 PM #123
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      Whens the dyno coming?
      The begining of the year last time I talked to Arnold Bob.G
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      nice welding arnold.
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      Out with the old



      In with the new...In progress...

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      Little progress pic of a full turbo-back exhaust we had just semi completed... We like working backwards so built the rear dual merged tip first



      Built the turbo-back and hung it...



      Middle view...



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      That exhaust looks sweet!

    27. 12-10-2010 02:49 PM #132
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      Wow! Any interested in fabbing up another one of these cores Arnold?
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      Yes absolutely I can provide the above core and/or FMIC kit...

      Here is more of the above TSI project



      FMIC almost done...

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    29. 12-17-2010 05:03 PM #134
      BUMP! post some more flix Arnold
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      12-17-2010 05:07 PM #135
      Ok, here you go. Its TSI related (sound of the custom exhaust system above)



      Must listen or view on good speaker system. Laptop or cheapie systems will make the sound pulsey.

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      Sounds sick

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      Thanks A. It turned out very nice. 3" turbo back w/ the right components and you can drive this into your driveway at 2am w/o the neighbors wanting to take you out
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      Thanks A. It turned out very nice. 3" turbo back w/ the right components and you can drive this into your driveway at 2am w/o the neighbors wanting to take you out
      Yet still sound sick enough to drop jaws. Perfect balance.
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      Thanks again Arnold for all the help.

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