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    Thread: Diesel swap - Whats the best small pick-up for one?

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      12-03-2009 04:25 PM #26
      Quote, originally posted by hazw8st »
      These vehicles can be imported into the US.

      Not without a VIN swap, they can't, unless you're talking about a 25 year old one, or getting a driver's license in a country in which they're legal and registering it there.
      Anyway, that is a good point about the clusters, although I was under the impression that they had individual sensors going straight to the cluster. (VW is an exception, though.) Many of these clusters don't have tachs, so that leaves the speedo, which goes to the diff, whether it's electronic or mechanical.


      Modified by bhtooefr at 4:27 PM 12-3-2009

    2. 12-03-2009 04:33 PM #27
      Quote, originally posted by bhtooefr »
      Not without a VIN swap, they can't, unless you're talking about a 25 year old one, or getting a driver's license in a country in which they're legal and registering it there.

      Ha. Try state of Florida buddy.
      In Florida, you can register a boat if you put wheels on it.

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      12-03-2009 04:35 PM #28
      Gotta get it across the border first.
      And, even the VIN swap isn't legal. And, if the feds find out that it's in the US, the car gets deported or crushed.

    4. 12-03-2009 04:37 PM #29
      It is quite possible to bring in a front clip like the Mad Tyte crowd does. I have a friend that managed to get an Isuzu one for a early 90's Trooper with a TD. Worth the effort? **** no.

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      12-03-2009 04:38 PM #30
      So now the OP (Illinois resident) is going to register his gray-market daily driver in Florida?
      Seriously-where do you guys come up with this stuff?

    6. 12-03-2009 04:50 PM #31
      Quote, originally posted by bhtooefr »
      Gotta get it across the border first.

      Quote, originally posted by bhtooefr »
      And, if the feds find out that it's in the US, the car gets deported or crushed.

      Both are non issues. Once the vehicle is initially titled in FL, it can then be titled in one of 15 other US states that allow "one off" cars to be titled and registered.

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      12-03-2009 04:53 PM #32
      Why diesel-fy one? Put in an LS1.

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      12-03-2009 04:59 PM #33
      Quote, originally posted by hazw8st »
      Both are non issues. Once the vehicle is initially titled in FL, it can then be titled in one of 15 other US states that allow "one off" cars to be titled and registered.

      I don't give a **** what Florida does, if you register that car in another state, and the feds catch wind of it - for that matter, if they catch wind of it in Florida - they are coming to crush it.

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      12-03-2009 05:06 PM #34
      Quote, originally posted by hazw8st »
      And the 4BT isn't any heavier than the original 4.0 liter v6 that it replaces.

      bs. the 4bt is over 800lbs rtr.

      not if, but when i build one of these it will be an om617 into a 3rd gen toyota xtra cab sas'd.


      Modified by WOT at 10:07 PM 12-3-2009

    10. 12-03-2009 05:35 PM #35
      Quote, originally posted by bhtooefr »
      I don't give a **** what Florida does, if you register that car in another state, and the feds catch wind of it - for that matter, if they catch wind of it in Florida - they are coming to crush it.

      You really think so? Hilarious.

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      12-03-2009 06:51 PM #36
      I would personally try to find a early 83-85 s10 with the 2.2 diesel.
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      12-03-2009 07:08 PM #37
      Quote, originally posted by hazw8st »
      You really think so? Hilarious.

      Yes, the feds will crush, seize, deport, destroy, whatever, illegally imported cars. Dont believe us, search in the MKII forum for the guy who tried it with a real Rallye Golf and then had to turn it in to the NY DMV and it was cut into many pieces and destroyed. Not to mention the personal liability that you open yourself up to when you, or someone, hits you while in your car. Have fun explaining to the court that the car has a forged VIN identity and is actually illegal in the country when that ambulance chaser comes after you for damages caused to his/ her clients "whiplash injury" as a result of your non conforming to US safety laws vehicle. Forget Florida, the personal liability is too heavy to risk it.
      As for your options:
      - Import a pre 1984 diesel truck from Canada or Europe
      - Swap an American market diesel into a compact pick up. Drawbacks are hanging 900+lbs (whoever said a 4BT is the same weight as a 4.0 Ford is stupid wrong), mangling of the front suspension with either major IFS crossmember work or a solid axle swap in order to make room for a tall medium duty diesel, converting of the fuel system (tank, filler neck, sender, pump, cleaning lines, etc...) from gas to diesel, converting the tach signal from gas to diesel, converting your light duty transmission to something compatible that will be able to handle the new found torque, regearing the front (if 4wd) and rear axles to a higher gear ratio as gasser gears are usually much taller than diesel ones which will cause you to over rev your new diesel and cause a lower top speed and lower mileage
      - Find and arrange for the delivery of a front half cut from a diesel vehicle of another market in order to get all the accessories, diesel transmission (sometimes a specific trans), instrument cluster and electronic bits but prepare yourself for serious sticker shock and by pure nature of the beast, no parts availability in the US. Then, go back and do all the things in bullet two.
      Have I thought about this? Absolutely, as you can tell. I want a diesel powered midsize SUV very very badly. I want a quality drivetrain that isnt wrapped in a sub par Chrysler product and due to that, my options are few. The solution, I will import something diesel powered Land Rover Defender. There are enough in the states that diesel parts can be had relatively easily. Why not a Cummins 4BT or an Isuzu 4BD? The changes that you will have to make to your truck/ SUV will completely change the nature of the truck. Noise, vibration, lifting the suspension, etc... will all change once you put a medium duty diesel into a light duty truck.
      However, do what you want. Read up on http://www.4btswaps.com
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      12-03-2009 07:18 PM #38
      dubsonparade: You mean the 58 hp piece of **** that you can't get parts for, and can't get out of its own way? In a manual 2WD truck, let alone a 4WD truck?
      Anyway, morecarsthanbrains, there is the chipped TDI route. That will still be quite a lot of work, but parts availability is fine, and as long as you don't go absurd, anything that can handle a ~4 liter V6 gasser can handle the TDI's torque just fine. Also, in the TDI's case, we're talking about low-revving gassers (peak HP on the Ranger engines is at 5250 RPM,) and the TDI isn't bad for a diesel (peak HP at approx 4000, and they'll spin up to 5100.)

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      12-03-2009 07:47 PM #39
      First thing I thought of when I saw the thread title...
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      12-03-2009 07:53 PM #40
      Quote, originally posted by mariok2006 »
      First thing I thought of when I saw the thread title...
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      12-03-2009 09:23 PM #41
      Quote, originally posted by bhtooefr »
      Anyway, morecarsthanbrains, there is the chipped TDI route. That will still be quite a lot of work, but parts availability is fine, and as long as you don't go absurd, anything that can handle a ~4 liter V6 gasser can handle the TDI's torque just fine. Also, in the TDI's case, we're talking about low-revving gassers (peak HP on the Ranger engines is at 5250 RPM,) and the TDI isn't bad for a diesel (peak HP at approx 4000, and they'll spin up to 5100.)

      The problem with that is the new VW TDis need a lot of wiring to be done and will require the immobilizer and the cluster to make it work- read $$$$$$
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      12-03-2009 09:25 PM #42
      Who said anything about new VW TDIs?
      Toss in an ALH that can have the immo disabled, or a 1Z/AHU that needs very little wiring and has no immo.
      Or, toss a mechanical pump on either of them.

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      12-05-2009 06:33 PM #43
      Ok, I have probably a stupid question.
      Could you take an electric motor (attached to transmission) and power it with a diesel generator?
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    19. 12-05-2009 09:44 PM #44
      Quote, originally posted by bhtooefr »
      Toss in an ALH that can have the immo disabled, or a 1Z/AHU that needs very little wiring and has no immo.

      VW AAZ is a mechanical IDI and takes 1 wire to run.

    20. 12-05-2009 09:48 PM #45
      How about a Chevy LUV, there was a diesel version.

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      12-05-2009 11:10 PM #46
      If another idiot says any of the following, I'm going to stab a mother****er.
      Chevy LUV (or Isuzu P'up) with the Isuzu diesel
      80's Chevy S-10 with the Isuzu diesel
      80's Ranger with the Mazda or ****subishi diesel
      80's Mazda with the Mazda diesel
      80's ****subishi or Ram 50 with the ****subishi diesel
      80's Toyota with any of the Toyota diesels
      Comanche with the Renault diesel
      Datsun 620 or Datsun/Nissan 720 with a diesel


      Modified by bhtooefr at 11:11 PM 12-5-2009

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      12-05-2009 11:18 PM #47
      Quote, originally posted by BRealistic »
      Ok, I have probably a stupid question.
      Could you take an electric motor (attached to transmission) and power it with a diesel generator?
      “Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.”

    23. 12-05-2009 11:32 PM #48
      I call BS on this whole thing. Where's the OP? It's been a few days and he hasn't come back to this thread?
      Makes no sense to do this swap. As someone else said, just buy a gas compact pickup or a full size diesel.

    24. 12-06-2009 12:43 AM #49
      Quote, originally posted by BRealistic »
      Ok, I have probably a stupid question.


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      12-06-2009 12:46 AM #50
      Quote, originally posted by hazw8st »

      Can you elaborate?
      “Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.”

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