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    12-14-2009 07:16 AM #1
    so a solenoid controlled atomizer(s) may come in real handy, if the flow rates are close to usable,

    anyone measure it before?

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    09-24-2010 08:13 AM #2
    i was hoping your thread had info on 5th or info on who has tried it for fueling

    i was wondering how evenly it fuels

    super ghetto lack luster question i know

    maybe it would help balance a TB injector

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    09-27-2010 07:46 PM #3
    I would be curious as to how even say 10 cold start injectors would be flow wise if compared and measured under the same conditions. as I don't think they would be very consistent
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    09-28-2010 01:32 AM #4
    IIRC, they were about 18 lbs/hr. I will try to confirm, but this is what I remember reading back in the day. Though they operate off the thermoswitch so the actual flow into the engine varies...I'm not sure if it ever actually reaches that rate. I just remember reading that's it's capacity, wide open w/ 12V applied.
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    09-28-2010 07:11 AM #5
    I know witchhunter.com cleans and bench flows them. I'd contact him and ask, he seems pretty knowledgable. when I was looking at these the main points were the coil valve design in not capable of pwm control or consistant open/close times, or compatable with water/meth.
    most apps would be better served buying a single known flowrate injector. if you don't want to fast switch it and just run constant open, get a high impedance injector and back calc the pressure and listed flow rate from the desired flow rate. may be alot easier than trying to make a fixed flow rate produce your deired flow rate. especially if the pressure gets away from the 3-4.5 bar pressure or less if your not running a cis fuel pump.

    as for mounting an extra injector. a bung can be made out of a 1/4"npt fitting bored out
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    09-30-2010 05:56 PM #6
    19# is what i thought i read somewhere too

    so i went out & put an oe 5th injector in the oe TB where the idle screw used to be

    i have a maxed out cis-e system @ ~9psi

    i had 12.9 AF @ 6700 rpm b4, after i had 12.1 @ 6700

    i started to wonder if the 4cyl needs 30HP worth of fuel @ cold cranking rpm when the other injectors are putting some out ??......no

    i think it's more like 5#/hr

    i'm putting a vr6 19# inj in the TB next

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    10-01-2010 01:42 AM #7
    Quote Originally Posted by EL DRIFTO View Post
    19# is what i thought i read somewhere too

    so i went out & put an oe 5th injector in the oe TB where the idle screw used to be

    i have a maxed out cis-e system @ ~9psi

    i had 12.9 AF @ 6700 rpm b4, after i had 12.1 @ 6700

    i started to wonder if the 4cyl needs 30HP worth of fuel @ cold cranking rpm when the other injectors are putting some out ??......no

    i think it's more like 5#/hr

    i'm putting a vr6 19# inj in the TB next
    It's not a static number when the cold start operates though. It's based on the thermo switch.
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    10-01-2010 06:46 AM #8
    sure, but it's not variable, it's 100% until the switch shuts off from cranking too long/much, since it's driven by the starter wire, then it's one step off, until the thermoswitch cools down

    anyway, put the vr 19# inj in the TB & af down to 11.5

    the disappointment came when i topped the tank off & got 20%e85 blend with 80% 91 gas

    & the car got slower than 50%e & 87 gas

    it pulled harder @ 12.9 with 50%e than 10.5 with 80% gas, oh well where can i drive it off

    EDIT: the 5th inj moved my af down .9 & the 19# moved it down 1.4 so i'd guess MY fifth injector was putting out 12#/hr
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  9. 04-28-2012 08:43 PM #9
    Have an 85 gti can I wire my csv to a switch for more fuel when I'm running the at? Please get back to me ASAP

  10. 04-29-2012 09:03 AM #10
    yes.
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