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[ViRtUaLheretic]

Even your car runs on alcohol!
Devils Own DVC 30 kit purchased from BSH

(beer not included with order, lol)









I will be installing the kit later this winter, but I was just excited to get the kit in the mail!
I am still debating if I want to go with 1 nozzle, or go for 2 smaller nozzles for better atomization...Thanks goes out to Justin@BSH for setting up the group buy, the guy that started the GB thread on golfmkv, and to Phil@BSH for taking my order and answering my questions.


Modified by ViRtUaLheretic at 11:35 PM 12-29-2009

[ViRtUaLheretic]

BSH TB Pipe:

[ViRtUaLheretic]

reserved

[Draddog_nai]

I've heard that once you install water/meth you can't go back. Something about the engine "needing" it from that point on. Is this true?

[ViRtUaLheretic]

LoL, I think its more like the driver "needs" it haha

srsly tho, I havent heard anything like that

[mercavius]

I imagine that the software adapts for it. I'm sure it will just adapt right back when you remove it.

And why didn't you tell anyone else about this group buy (or at least how come I didn't know about it)? I would've def picked this up.

[ViRtUaLheretic]

Sorry, didnt think to post it here, it was on golfmkv

Hit up Phil or Justin and see if it is too late to jump on the GB bandwagon...

[NEW2B]

how much was it?

[ViRtUaLheretic]

I believe the GB was for $315, Id have to check again...

[ViRtUaLheretic]

Correct, $315
http://www.golfmkv.com/forums/...09221

[Rolando_TX]

Isn't Bsh supposed to release a full bolt on Water/meth kit for the TSI??

[Arin@APR]

Oh boy! In for progress!

[ViRtUaLheretic]

I talked to BSH about their plans and they are going to provide an adaptation to this exact kit. They are also going to offer an intro special for the ppl that participated in the GB, so its a win win.

The BSH kit is going to have a TB pipe with a bung prewelded in for the w/m sprayer. I am going to hold out on the install untill they release this piece, but it should be too much longer. In the meantime I have a slew of other parts to install....

[Krieger]

EJ pipe has a WM bung.

[ViRtUaLheretic]

Ive read that they do offer that, but BSH has been good to me and I am going to checkout what they have up their sleeve.
Phil is VERY knowlegeable about w/m and you can see that as he posts some great info on just about every w/m thread on golfmkv
I have bounced some questions off of Phil and Justin when I was calling them about buying the DVC30 kit, great guys

[Murder'd]

I have heard that, on at least the FSIs, the alcohol corrodes the plastic throttle plate until you eventually need a new throttle body. Some people run straight water with good results, just thought I'd might mention it here.

[ViRtUaLheretic]

I havent heard that at all, and I have read through every thread i can find on w/m on golfmkv....

[Ricky Bobby]

so where are you mounting your tank with this setup or are you tapping into the windshield fluid tank?

i'm sort of a newb to w/m but from what i've read so far i will definitely be in for this when BSH releases their specific kit, nothing like truly maxing out my stage 2+ setup!

[ViRtUaLheretic]

I havent finalized the location for the pump yet, but there is a fantastic DIY PDF file floating around where the guy installed the pump somewhere behind the passenger side rear grill vent. it will be a PITA to remove the front bumper and install it somewhere in there, but should be too bad.

After talking with Justin and Phil @ BSH they convinced me to just run off of the stock WW fluid tank. The stock tank holds 1 gallon, and should be plenty of w/m.
I wont start the install untill BSH releases their TB pipe which shouldnt be too much firther away, but the install should take place in late winter or early spring.

Oh and I plan to put the DVC controller module in the extra mini dash cubby compartment that you can purchase from ECS tuning or oempl.us

[Ricky Bobby]

So how often do you think you'll be replacing the meth in the tank with the stock washer fluid reservoir?

Maybe I should be asking Phil or Justing these questions, but also what are the pros and cons of the Devil's Own vs Snow's meth kits? I see the Snow kits are significantly more expensive but they do say they are "2.0t specific", I don't know what that means.

Also, your kit you don't have to tap into ECU harnesses or anything do you? I know there was a thread somewhere about kits having more things to tap into than others.

Sorry for all the questions I read through that 9 page thread on golfmkv and still have plenty lol.

[ViRtUaLheretic]

i have a fairly long commute to work and back (just under 50 miles a day), and the stock WW tank should last me 3 or 4 weeks as per rough estimates (i drive in rush hour and dont have much chance to open her up on the highway to and from work).

The DVC30 kit is boost based and does not need to be spliced into he ECU (minus a power wire obviously). There are 2 settings to set on the DVC30 the min and max value. The min value is when the w/m kit begins to start a partial spray the w/m (should be 3-5psi), the max value is when the kit starts a full spray (around 11psi).

The DVC30 is a universal kit and can be adapted to any forced induction vehicle with relative ease.

i strongly suggest you read up on al of the w/m threads on golfmkv. Devils Own also has a VERY informative forum section that you can poke around in and read up on: http://www.alcohol-injection.com/forum/

[Ricky Bobby]

sweet bro thanks for the info.

i'm definitely gonna be reading up and keeping an eye out for when bsh releases their full kit with TB pipe.

[ViRtUaLheretic]

I started on the install yesterday, I routed the wiring (not connected yet), created the bracket to mount the pump (still need to install it), an I drilled the WW tank and inserted the nozzle to suck in the w/m to the pump. I should tie up all those lose ends this weekend and then I will just be waiting for the BSH TB pipe

[ViRtUaLheretic]

Wow its been 2 months since I started the install, im still waiting on the BSH TB pipe to complete the install.
However I have made some more progress, I installed the mini dash cubby and have the DVC30 controller nicely tucked away inside so its nice and stealthy.
This was a must as I am taking my car in for the carfree 30k mile maintenance in 2 days.

[lookin4trouble]

Why not just jury-rig the stock Y-Pipe for now while you're waiting for the BSH piece?

[01gtiaww]

How will you be adjusting timing once ur water/meth is installed? I'm used to my mk4 1.8t and I know you have to advance timing via lemmiwinks or unisettings but I don't know if it's still done that way for the mk5.


Modified by 01gtiaww at 7:59 AM 4-7-2010

[jcolletti]

Quote, originally posted by ViRtUaLheretic »

After talking with Justin and Phil @ BSH they convinced me to just run off of the stock WW fluid tank.

I apologize, perhaps this is a stupid question but...
So are you using the stock washer fluid tank and stock placement - and sacrificing having windshield squirts? Or are you using an additional washer tank?

[ViRtUaLheretic]

Incase I revert back to stock I want to have the option to put the stock TB pipe back on so untill then I will just wait for the BSH TB pipe.

I tapped the stock WW tank. Windshield Washer fluid is basically w/m with some added dye for color and some cleaning elements so the w/m mixture does a decent enough job for cleaning the windshield.

To take advantage of the w/m I am going to run the APR 100 octane program.
There is no advanced custome user tuning for the TSI motor as Revo was the only company that had this option on the MKV FSI and they didnt include this functionality in the TSI tune.

[08 passat turbo]

heres a link of the install http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=4722344

[Slayer]

Quote, originally posted by ViRtUaLheretic »

Incase I revert back to stock I want to have the option to put the stock TB pipe back on so untill then I will just wait for the BSH TB pipe.

just pop a hole in the stock one. you can always epoxy the hole, or put a plug in it later

[steelcurtain]

Quote, originally posted by ViRtUaLheretic »

This was a must as I am taking my car in for the carfree 30k mile maintenance in 2 days.

I'm glad to see I'm not the only one approaching 30K after owning the car for 1 year. I got 26K + miles on stage 2 and haven't had an issue yet. Please post pics of your install!!!!

[ViRtUaLheretic]

updated the thread with the new BSH TB Pipe I just got in.
w/m kit will be installed this weekend!

P.S. the TB Pipe also doubles as a Vuvuzela, my roommates hated it

[mylesw42]

updated the thread with the new BSH TB Pipe I just got in.
w/m kit will be installed this weekend!

P.S. the TB Pipe also doubles as a Vuvuzela, my roommates hated it

Does the coupler hose attach the pipe to the intercooler or the throttle body? I have mine on order so any tips you have during your install, post em up

[ViRtUaLheretic]

good question, but I dont know the answer lol
I'll be hooking it all up this weekend and trust me there will be plenty of pix

[conejoZING!]

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