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    08-07-2012 10:19 PM #4726
    Quote Originally Posted by Im Rondo View Post
    Here is the video.



    PDE has the same pipe but 2.5" in diameter and I think they keep your EGR
    That sounds beautiful! Man it's making me want to tear in to our brand new JSW, wife would kill me, got to wait til some of the freshness wears off. Is the DPF delete what gives it a better sound of the turbo etc or is this exhaust replaced also?

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    08-07-2012 10:23 PM #4727
    With the DPF removed the exhaust is really free flowing "no restrictions".

    Except for the stage two tune, the DPF delete and mid pipe the motor is stock.

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    08-08-2012 02:25 AM #4728
    Quote Originally Posted by Im Rondo View Post
    Here is the video.
    thanks.. it doesn't sound much quieter with the stock "muffler" left in place. I wonder how it'd sound with only the DPF removed. .. probably similar.. just quieter.

    Quote Originally Posted by Im Rondo View Post
    PDE has the same pipe but 2.5" in diameter and I think they keep your EGR
    yah.. they're also more expensive though. At least it's good to know that you can replace only the downpipe for essentially the same effect.
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    08-08-2012 08:48 AM #4729
    Quote Originally Posted by rootrider View Post


    I like their prices.. I don't see a downpipe that doesn't include the EGR delete though.


    Remember there are two EGR systems a high pressure and a low pressure.

    The high pressure is from the manifold pre turbine to right before the throttle body (yes these have a throttle body). Back pressure in the manifold forces the exhaust into the intake stream. This would be retained with a DPF delete of any kind.

    The low pressure is from after the DPF but before the second 2 cats, goes to a cooler mounted on the back of the block and then to the turbo inlet on the low pressure side. This system works by closing a flapper downstream (between the last 2 cats I think maybe after I'm blanking).

    In order to retain the low pressure EGR you would also need to retain the flapper or it would not work properly. Actually from what I can tell just removing the flapper disables the low pressure EGR actuator from even opening. The flapper is a dual vband section in the middle of hte exhaust and the branch off to the cooler for the gases is also a vband fitting. Its not impossible to retain it but it would add significantly to the cost and complication of building the exhaust.


    The low pressure EGR also seems to be the cause of some EGR problems that are popping up on higher mileage cars lately. Outside US canada I don't believe any of them have the low pressure egr.

    Obviously emissions reasons to maintain it just point out some of the hurdles.

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    08-08-2012 08:54 AM #4730
    Quote Originally Posted by rootrider View Post
    thanks.. it doesn't sound much quieter with the stock "muffler" left in place. I wonder how it'd sound with only the DPF removed. .. probably similar.. just quieter.
    Compared to the just DPF/EGR delete with stock cat back his sound a little louder then what I have heard standing at the rear. The in car whistle is slightly more pronounced as well.

    In car driving with the DPF/EGR delete and stock cat back I would say its roughly 2 db louder tops, you can hear it more but it is not intrusive and really only under load or change in throttle not cruising.

    Heard one finally pulling away from me the other day, the sound is a little ugly, not as deep and imposing as say a PS or a cummins. But out of the whistle is very distinct and sounds awesome. Stock someone might now be sure if its a diesel or not, with the DPF/egr delete and stock cat back it is now very clear that it is.

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    08-08-2012 09:18 AM #4731
    It sounds a little louder then in person. The car was in the garage and the shot from the back was done about 3 feet away.

    I tried to enhance the sound in final cut. Might have done it a little too much

    Last week a Vortex member came by to visit me at the shop with his Jetta TDi He has the Rawtek system with no muffler and a resonator. That was loud. Sounds good.

  7. 08-08-2012 10:14 AM #4732
    Quote Originally Posted by A2day View Post
    Hi again.
    I'm not completely mad about the JSW rear, so I was thinking about playing with vinyl...

    Use black mate behind the license plate, and transparent vinyl over the tail lights.

    I've made two photoshops on this....

    Any comments?


    Tail lights tinted RED



    Tail lights tinted BLACK

    Its been a while since i've posted here. But I've decided the way I would like to change my Golf Wagon.

    These are the results:





    So, black mate vinyl behind the license plate, and transparent black vinyl on the taillights.

    What do you think about it?

    I kinda like it!

    Cheers,
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    08-08-2012 10:17 AM #4733
    good info Chris

    doing some research.. I see
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    08-08-2012 11:08 AM #4734
    Gawd I want exhaust and EGR delete so bad just sucks that we have little to no options in the US to go with.

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    08-08-2012 08:09 PM #4735
    We finally got around to installing the mkvi seats in the wagon. It's going to be nice not sweating my ass off on the leatherette


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    08-08-2012 11:46 PM #4736
    Quote Originally Posted by Im Rondo View Post
    Here is the video.



    PDE has the same pipe but 2.5" in diameter and I think they keep your EGR
    sounds great!
    I installed same setup on a mkvi jetta last week after work for a dude at work (50$ labor fee, lol)
    but that was my 4th or 5th install. So pretty easy getting it all out and back in. Sounds good overall though some fitment issues for a couple things but overall nice stuff.
    Bunch of stuff.

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    08-09-2012 10:51 AM #4737
    Finally got some pics worth posting (sort of). They are with my iPhone, but still look decent.






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    08-09-2012 11:09 AM #4738
    Man those spyder headlights make baby goats cry.
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    08-09-2012 11:31 AM #4739
    Quote Originally Posted by nikhsub1 View Post
    Man those spyder headlights make baby goats cry.

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    08-09-2012 12:28 PM #4740
    Quote Originally Posted by nikhsub1 View Post
    Man those spyder headlights make baby goats cry.
    I'm sorry to hear that . Are you sure it's from the headlights and not from your tender lovin'?

    I know they're not the most popular mod in the universe, but so far, they've been great and I get a lot of compliments on them. Price was right too!

    If I were to do it again, i would probably get Ed's lights, but what's done is done for now. You've got to admit that they are WAY better than the stock POS reflector headlights.

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    08-09-2012 04:39 PM #4741
    Quote Originally Posted by AO928 View Post
    You've got to admit that they are WAY better than the stock POS reflector headlights.
    Um, no I don't.

    Sorry, I know it's probably rude, but I'm really just trying to be funny.
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    08-09-2012 08:50 PM #4742
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    08-09-2012 09:13 PM #4743
    I will change the subject lol, I think I found some wheels I want, BBS RS, 17" I believe they are 8.5" wide and 37 offset, will that work for our JSW?

    Since we do some city driving with it and the roads suck, was thinking of using the same size tire that is on the stock 17" portos, no good? Input appreciated!

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    08-09-2012 09:23 PM #4744
    Quote Originally Posted by VdubBry View Post
    I will change the subject lol, I think I found some wheels I want, BBS RS, 17" I believe they are 8.5" wide and 37 offset, will that work for our JSW?

    Since we do some city driving with it and the roads suck, was thinking of using the same size tire that is on the stock 17" portos, no good? Input appreciated!
    Those are beyond played out, but they would work if you are really low and run 215 or 205 tires.
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    08-09-2012 09:27 PM #4745
    I have a soft spot for them, one of my first VW's 15 years ago, or more had them. Have to go low because they are 17"?

    I want something that I can powdercoat the faces Candy White to match the car but still have some silver.

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    08-09-2012 11:03 PM #4746
    played out or not.. they look good
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    08-09-2012 11:12 PM #4747
    Yes a timeless classic

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    08-10-2012 03:43 PM #4748
    Quote Originally Posted by rootrider View Post
    played out or not.. they look good
    Quote Originally Posted by VdubBry View Post
    I have a soft spot for them, one of my first VW's 15 years ago, or more had them. Have to go low because they are 17"?

    I want something that I can powdercoat the faces Candy White to match the car but still have some silver.
    Quote Originally Posted by VdubBry View Post
    Yes a timeless classic
    I would rock them for sure

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    08-10-2012 03:44 PM #4749
    Yes, I think since they are 17" Ill just have to go lower right? 37mm offset should be good though?

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    08-10-2012 03:50 PM #4750
    actually they are a 30mm offset, will that work?

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    08-10-2012 04:49 PM #4751
    Quote Originally Posted by VdubBry View Post
    actually they are a 30mm offset, will that work?
    It will poke so you will have to run a narrow tire like stated above

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    08-10-2012 04:53 PM #4752
    I don't know what it means by poke lol, like they'll stick out past the fender? Not sure if I like that look.

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    08-10-2012 05:18 PM #4753
    Quote Originally Posted by VdubBry View Post
    I don't know what it means by poke lol, like they'll stick out past the fender? Not sure if I like that look.
    That is correct, it will sit out past the fender

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    08-10-2012 05:36 PM #4754
    Thanks, ok, not sure that's the look for me.

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    08-10-2012 11:30 PM #4755
    I've seen pics of a rear cupholder. In the center console but for the rear passengers. My 2011 JSW just has a little useless pocket below the rear HVAC vent in the console.

    Was the cupholder that would go there a euro only thing? Can you buy and install it in the US rear center console w/o replacing the whole assembly or losing the rear air vent?

    Part numbers?

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    08-10-2012 11:37 PM #4756
    Ok, found this one at ECS under the MK V Jetta....

    http://www.ecstuning.com/Volkswagen-...Holder/ES6917/

    Actually looks very similar to the one in my wifes 2011 Tiguan, are they the same?

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    08-10-2012 11:47 PM #4757
    Quote Originally Posted by Shawn O View Post
    Ok, found this one at ECS under the MK V Jetta....

    http://www.ecstuning.com/Volkswagen-...Holder/ES6917/

    Actually looks very similar to the one in my wifes 2011 Tiguan, are they the same?
    I don't think this would work in the JSW due to the 12v outlet.

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    08-11-2012 03:51 AM #4758
    Quote Originally Posted by nikhsub1 View Post
    I don't think this would work in the JSW due to the 12v outlet.


    we lost the cupholder at the back of the center console in order to get the 12v outlet.


    My car has a set of cupholders in the rear center arm rest.. do later cars not? I know I have the storage compartment in the rear center arm rest that was removed from later cars
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    08-11-2012 10:07 AM #4759
    Quote Originally Posted by rootrider View Post
    My car has a set of cupholders in the rear center arm rest.. do later cars not? I know I have the storage compartment in the rear center arm rest that was removed from later cars
    My 2010 has the rear center armrest cup holder.
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    08-11-2012 11:12 AM #4760
    My 2011 Variant has the rear central foldable cupholer, below the rear vents. It is the same item that came on my 2007 mk5 Jetta. Obviously, I have no rear 12V plug.

    Let me know if you want a pic.

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