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    Thread: Error CODE P2187 & P2189: NEED HELP

    1. 01-08-2010 04:03 PM #1
      Add a few codes come up today

      P2187 & P218. Bank 1 & 2 running lean at idle

      Read alot online, people with the same codes were experiencing bad gasmilage as well, which I can concer with.

      Havnt been able to find a definite, answer any suggestions.

      Replace purge valve?? (P/N?)

      MAF??

      Fuel filter??

      Need help. I keep getting engin codes and 265 miles per tank.


    2. 01-08-2010 04:20 PM #2
      I had the same symptoms and error code's last spring. I reset the code like 5 times with VAD over a month's span and the last time I reset the codes never returned.

      It wouldn't hurt buying some MAF cleaner and giving that a go. As well as checking for any obvious leaks in the area.


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      01-08-2010 04:36 PM #3
      Quote, originally posted by Higzgti »
      Add a few codes come up today

      P2187 & P218. Bank 1 & 2 running lean at idle

      Read alot online, people with the same codes were experiencing bad gasmilage as well, which I can concer with.

      Havnt been able to find a definite, answer any suggestions.

      Replace purge valve?? (P/N?)

      MAF??

      Fuel filter??

      Need help. I keep getting engin codes and 265 miles per tank.

      I don't recommend using MAF cleaner unless you know for sure that the MAF is dead. MAF cleaner is temporary fix.

      I would check to make sure all the cloth vacuum lines are good. There are some behind the intake manifold above the heat shield for the exhaust manifold. Also check the vacuum line at the combi valve (below the throttle body).

      If any of those vacuum line appear to be brittle / broken replace them and then clear the faults and road test and recheck later.

      260 miles a tank is not bad IMO.


    4. 01-10-2010 03:34 PM #4
      Any pictures of this/??

      Thanks for the help


    5. 01-11-2010 05:08 PM #5
      Any more suggestions?

    6. 01-15-2010 09:49 PM #6
      bump

    7. 02-15-2010 04:30 PM #7
      Still got these, damn it!

      Any other suggestions....


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      02-15-2010 07:17 PM #8
      What have you done so far to try to correct this? Anything?

    9. 02-18-2010 02:59 PM #9
      Quote, originally posted by Mike Solo »
      What have you done so far to try to correct this? Anything?

      Not yet. I am going to try the fuel filter first because I already have a new one sitting in my tool box but I was seeing if anyone else had these types of issues.


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      02-18-2010 03:14 PM #10
      Quote, originally posted by FlyingFinn@Streetwerke »

      I don't recommend using MAF cleaner unless you know for sure that the MAF is dead. MAF cleaner is temporary fix.

      You know I heard this, tried it out and 2yrs later my MAF is still fine. I'll admit that's probably an oddball thing for these cars. Seems to work on the A3 VR MAF's as well.

      Go figure.


    11. 02-18-2010 05:12 PM #11
      Quote, originally posted by David@vwvortex »

      You know I heard this, tried it out and 2yrs later my MAF is still fine. I'll admit that's probably an oddball thing for these cars. Seems to work on the A3 VR MAF's as well.

      Go figure.

      Hmmm seems like its worth trying, but I dont want to kill my MAF


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      02-18-2010 06:35 PM #12
      Quote, originally posted by Higzgti »

      Hmmm seems like its worth trying, but I dont want to kill my MAF

      Not going to kill it unless you get your fingers all over it. Stuff evaporates pretty quickly.

      Not saying it will work in your case, but in my case it did and made it through about 6 tracks days and two years. Also stand corrected it failed this year finally, but that was after two years since I had cleaned the thing. Decided not to clean it this time around.


    13. 02-18-2010 06:46 PM #13
      Quote, originally posted by David@vwvortex »

      Not going to kill it unless you get your fingers all over it. Stuff evaporates pretty quickly.

      Not saying it will work in your case, but in my case it did and made it through about 6 tracks days and two years. Also stand corrected it failed this year finally, but that was after two years since I had cleaned the thing. Decided not to clean it this time around.

      Picking up a can after work, hope it works.



    14. 02-18-2010 06:48 PM #14
      Also,


      Any one change a fuel filter?

      I believe there is a DIY under the Gti/Jetta forum but I wasn't sure if its same for R's

      Is it also back by the rear passenger wheel?


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      02-19-2010 06:53 AM #15
      Yes, there's a DIY and be careful with the clips on the fuel filter. I heard it's an expensive fix if you break one. and yes the filter is at the RR of the car

    16. 02-19-2010 10:13 AM #16
      Quote, originally posted by bigb201 »
      Yes, there's a DIY and be careful with the clips on the fuel filter. I heard it's an expensive fix if you break one. and yes the filter is at the RR of the car

      I remember reading about the clips, which is why I have yet to do it.

      UPDATE:

      I did more research and found that an engine code stating you are running lean is very common after installing a new pre-oiled air filter, like in short ram and cold air intakes (I installed a new VF intake 1 week before the engine light came on). Excess oil can be sucked off and land on the sensitive wire of the MAF. A cleaning was recommended.

      I used some cleaner and it seems to be gone. Let’s hope it stays away.


    17. 02-25-2010 10:30 AM #17
      DAMN IT!

      Light came on while driving home last night.

      Im going to scan it again today to see if its the same sh*t, which it probably is.

      This weekend I want to try and change the fuel filter and possible coolant flush (I have an extra thing of coolant).

      Anyone other suggestions?


    18. 02-25-2010 10:52 AM #18
      buddy its been a month and a half


      change your fuel filter


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      09-05-2013 12:57 PM #19
      I too had the 2187 code come up, haven't tried anything yet, just doing some research. From the diagnosis' I have received have been either the MAF or the O2 sensor. Other possibilities were a faulty fuel pump or a vacuum leak.

      I have the stock intake on my car, a 2010 Wolfsburg with the TSI, so I'm not thinking it's got anything to do with the filter oil. I'm going to grab a can of MAF cleaner until I can offer a new one.

      Thanks for posting, very helpful thread! Cheers
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      09-05-2013 02:11 PM #20
      change your fuel pump. you welcome .
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