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    Thread: 3.2 VR6 OEM+ intake manifold project.

    1. 01-30-2010 01:02 PM #101
      Quote, originally posted by PowerDubs »
      no- http://www.nicoclub.com/articles.php?id=274245

      Nice [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]
      But it feels like this work with your plenum is going to be lots of work for basicly dyno error like power gain.
      Are you going to test both the plastic ported and then a single plenum with issams stuff?
      Make sure to get som nice angle stacks and not just straight pipes
      like the http://www.g-e-t.biz ones

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      01-30-2010 01:28 PM #102
      Quote, originally posted by foffa2002@home »
      But it feels like this work with your plenum is going to be lots of work for basicly dyno error like power gain.


      It might be a waste of time, but we will never know until we try.

      I hate to bring it up over and over again for those that are sick of seeing it, but on my old 16v, I modified the upper part of the intake manifold by increasing the plenum size and shortening the runners 1.5 inches and achieved what I think is favorable results for such minor changes..and on a virtually stock engine. (chip, catback, oem euro intake cam)

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    3. 01-30-2010 02:46 PM #103
      Quote, originally posted by PowerDubs »

      It might be a waste of time, but we will never know until we try.

      I hate to bring it up over and over again for those that are sick of seeing it, but on my old 16v, I modified the upper part of the intake manifold by increasing the plenum size and shortening the runners 1.5 inches and achieved what I think is favorable results for such minor changes..and on a virtually stock engine. (chip, catback, oem euro intake cam)


      hard work is free.
      Buts its alot of work

      Try to get INA to sponsor your car or similar.
      Leebro migh also do something nice for it.
      90MM maf and the larger GM TB and moved air box with battry delete.
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      01-30-2010 04:47 PM #104
      yepp ina 80mm plug and play TB from gm
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      01-30-2010 07:36 PM #105
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      Do you have links to those posts? I like reading about stuff..

      I could if you want, but it's a more primitive setup (non-variable) & just a pure bolt on mod. You're removing one & bolting on another that has more surface area where the port meets the head.It looks the same, but flows much better for upper RPM power. It's really just old school technology.
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      01-31-2010 08:56 PM #106
      Found links and read up on it. Bigger runners and plenum, go figure.
      So tonight I tried plastic welding some scrap pieces of manifold together. It didn't go real well. Tomorrow I will go find some sort of plastic epoxy instead, as I don't want this sucker falling apart..
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    7. 02-01-2010 11:43 AM #107
      Instead of plastic welding it try taking the manifold to a shop that handles ski base repair , they have a neat gun hat fuses melting plastic into cracks . You could "tak" the manifold cover in a few places then fuse in the melted plastic into the larger areas and then sand and finish .
      Pic of P-tex extruding gun

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      02-01-2010 12:29 PM #108
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      Instead of plastic welding ....fuses melting plastic into cracks .


      Plastic welding *is* fusing melting plastic into cracks.
      There are numerous different kinds of plastic, some this procedure works very well on, some it doesn't work at all. Ours didn't like the process.
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      02-01-2010 12:43 PM #109
      maybe try plastic epoxy u can sand and paint just don't know how strong it is
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    10. 02-01-2010 01:07 PM #110
      Quote, originally posted by PowerDubs »

      Plastic welding *is* fusing melting plastic into cracks.
      There are numerous different kinds of plastic, some this procedure works very well on, some it doesn't work at all. Ours didn't like the process.

      Well yea
      I was suggesting the Ptex extruder as it might fill the gabs a bit better and this stuff sticks to anything , and VERY hard to remove .
      Just thought you might have better luck with this type of system instead of the one you were using .

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      02-01-2010 02:05 PM #111
      Yea he was just a cheapo style plastic welder anyhow he said.I know each type of plastic needs a certain amount of heat and the right type of plastic to join them as well.The type i have been looking at join the two together and adds in filler.Temps can reach 1000 degrees cause certain thick hard plastic need alot of heat to make the process go quick and fast to get it to fuse together i have done alot of plastic bumpers with a cheapo but the plastic is also different
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    12. 02-01-2010 03:28 PM #112
      A lot of the auto body guys swear by this stuff:
      Fusor
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      02-02-2010 05:26 PM #113
      Quote, originally posted by benny_mech »
      A lot of the auto body guys swear by this stuff:
      Fusor

      I have used that a few times on projects and it works perfect, but then again it was on bumpers and a grill so the plastic may be a little different but it is well worth a try

    14. 02-02-2010 09:42 PM #114


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      02-03-2010 01:10 AM #115
      Duct tape, if it can hold boostz, then it should be able to hold non-boostz
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    16. 02-03-2010 03:32 AM #116
      thats just ghetto deff no josh style lol

    17. 02-03-2010 09:17 AM #117
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      thats just ghetto deff no josh style lol

      Word. MacGyver style might be ok though.
      I was going to say you can take Josh out of the ghetto but you can't take the ghetto out of Josh.
      But Josh flat out isn't ghetto as witnessed in his modifications. If anything its gonna be like double TIG plastic welded to the sixth power... If that doesn't exist he will make it exist all for the sake of 24v R32 manifolds.
      Looking foward for the possible bottleneck fix. [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]

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      02-03-2010 09:42 AM #118
      Oh..this very well may be ghetto..and won't be pretty. Initially..
      This is just for a proof of concept. If I can get any sort of gains from playing with the stock manifold, it will justify moving forward with spending thousands on a non-ghetto custom made aluminum one.
      -Josh
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    19. 02-03-2010 10:14 AM #119
      Quote, originally posted by PowerDubs »
      Oh..this very well may be ghetto..and won't be pretty. Initially..
      This is just for a proof of concept. If I can get any sort of gains from playing with the stock manifold, it will justify moving forward with spending thousands on a non-ghetto custom made aluminum one.

      Do you think it`ll be better then the hpa one?

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      02-03-2010 10:20 AM #120
      Think about what you just said.. *sigh*
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    21. 02-03-2010 10:47 AM #121
      The HPA manifold lost a significant amount of power down low.

    22. 02-03-2010 11:16 AM #122
      Quote, originally posted by R32_alex »
      The HPA manifold lost a significant amount of power down low.

      I had no idea, im a newbe hardcore.

    23. 02-03-2010 11:18 AM #123
      Quote, originally posted by PowerDubs »
      Think about what you just said.. *sigh*

      Give me a break this is all new to me.
      I still wish you all the best with this [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]

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      02-03-2010 03:04 PM #124
      You could stuff rocks in an OEM intake and still get better results than HPA

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      02-03-2010 03:16 PM #125
      Is there any gains up top from the HPA? Or is it all just meh?
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