The iPad Thread - keep the general chit-chat here. Thanks!

[JeffIsLax]

Hmm, I'll wait until there is an Atom 330 tablet with Ion2 and 160gb for around the same price (somewhere between $499 and $829)...

Actually I probably won't buy either.

[Matt D.]

Quote, originally posted by Jota »

I dont understand how this fits in to the marketplace. Why would someone need this who has a laptop and a smartphone? Its not as portable as a smartphone and cant execute as many functions as a laptop. So where is its value?

The point is to make people convert, and not expand the number of their devices. So, instead of getting a new laptop, one may consider this. Keep your iPhone for even more mobility. It makes plenty of sense.

[rlsib16]

but it doesnt have all the features/abilities that a laptop does so it cant replace one. nor is it as portable as a smartphone.

[duke_seb]

Quote, originally posted by Matt D. »

The point is to make people convert, and not expand the number of their devices. So, instead of getting a new laptop, one may consider this. Keep your iPhone for even more mobility. It makes plenty of sense.

I dont think anyone is going to convert from anything to an iPad...... I think the best chance this device has is to erode at the kindle... it isnt going to erode iphone or macbook sales

[F1_Fan]

Quote, originally posted by mhskateboarder »

ahhh ok. must be the speaker?

Cooling ports (maybe passive) is my guess.

[Power5]

Quote, originally posted by Matt D. »

Dirt. Cheap. Criticism will end shortly... starting at $499 for 16GB

Funny definition of dirt cheap. $499 for 16gb. Yeah, only $150 more than a netbook than can run just about any app. $829 for 64gb and the ability to use this device as intended, connected anywhere.

Quote, originally posted by Hajduk »

You're right but syncing to a PC is what most people would use a USB for anyway. Though the lack of an SD slot is a huge minus for me.

You can't plug anything into it though. Thats the problem. They have the ability to connect it to your computer, which makes almost no sense except for windows users since most mac have blue tooth I thought.



Modified by Power5 at 2:39 PM 1-27-2010

[DrewSXR]

I think I'd rather have something with a full-OS running on it like HP's Slate.

This is rather disappointing. A giant iPhone.

[WayOutWest]

Quote, originally posted by Matt D. »

The point is to make people convert, and not expand the number of their devices. So, instead of getting a new laptop, one may consider this. Keep your iPhone for even more mobility. It makes plenty of sense.

Agreed, with the keyboard dock, its got some real competition with my MacBook. I think I will see what the iPad looks like next year.

[duke_seb]

is the keynote over?

[slvrdubbin]

Quote, originally posted by duke_seb »

is the keynote over?

Apparently. Lame.

[duke_seb]

watch the video

http://www.apple.com/ipad/

[GreenandChrome]

Quote, originally posted by what »

just what ATT's network needs is more people leeching data bandwidth off it to check facebook and twitter

Not to mention the extra cash they'll get.

A company needs to offer a go-anywhere broadband internet plan that can be used on anything. Right now people have home internet, phone internet, some with mobile internet with laptops, and now internet for the iPad?

[Matt D.]

Quote, originally posted by Power5 »

Funny definition of dirt cheap. $499 for 16gb. Yeah, only $150 more than a netbook than can run just about any app. $829 for 64gb and the ability to use this device as intended, connected anywhere. You can't plug anything into it though. Thats the problem. They have the ability to connect it to your computer, which makes almost no sense except for windows users since most mac have blue tooth I thought. Modified by Power5 at 2:38 PM 1-27-2010

Keeping AAPL product price points in mind, it is dirt cheap and/or reasonably price.

[bora.the.explora]

i disagree. i don't think it's a substitute for a notebook/tablet. it's a whole new category and the presentation states that as well. i'm not sure it's going to do too well...then again it is an apple product.

[Gienek]

Its up on apple's website, tech details and all.

[Power5]

Quote, originally posted by GreenandChrome »

Not to mention the extra cash they'll get. A company needs to offer a go-anywhere broadband internet plan that can be used on anything. Right now people have home internet, phone internet, some with mobile internet with laptops, and now internet for the iPad?

local phone company here has a single internet plan. Pay once for home and cell phone internet.

[Swallow Doretti]

Quote, originally posted by Hajduk »

You're right but syncing to a PC is what most people would use a USB for anyway.

I'd take a USB port just so I could use the device to charge other devices (iPhone, digital camera) or transfer files (again, camera).

Given the choice between the two, I'd rather have a SD slot, too, but basically, there's neither.

Meh. How long till the Android tablet launches again?

[duke_seb]

watch the video..... actually watching it rather then reading about it.... its actually kinda neat..... im now kinda on the other side of the fence.... its actually pretty cool

[DrewSXR]

Can this thing multi-task? Or can you only run one application at a time?

Does it have GPS or a camera?

[Matt D.]

Quote, originally posted by duke_seb »

I dont think anyone is going to convert from anything to an iPad...... I think the best chance this device has is to erode at the kindle... it isnt going to erode iphone or macbook sales

People who are familiar with AAPL products tend to augment their mobility by overlapping their devices. I use my Nano more than my Iphone's ipod, for example. People who want to try these new products may see the iPad as being quite capable. How many of us have dozens of footwear, while one isn't that unique?


Modified by Matt D. at 11:52 AM 1-27-2010

[zhenya00]

Camera connection kit available to download pictures to the device - either usb or SD.

[wheeltowheel]

No flash=no hulu=

[zhenya00]

Quote, originally posted by DrewSXR »

Can this thing multi-task? Or can you only run one application at a time? Does it have GPS or a camera?

Doesn't appear to have either of these or multi-task. Those are some of my biggest requirements too - I use all of these devices on my iphone all the time. Perhaps thats why they are leaving them off...

[VeeDubDriver]

It appears to not support flash, which would seem to be a real let down if you want to use it as an internet browsing device.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/0...couch/


Modified by VeeDubDriver at 2:48 PM 1-27-2010

[duke_seb]

i love the disclaimer at the end of the video

[beng]

<flamesuit>

This is the first time in the last decade that Apple has debuted a product that I think has the potential to be a failure. I just don't see where the market is for a hybrid device like this, especially with that price point. ...if it were half the price, I'd say it would grab all the people who can't afford or havent purchased a laptop <ie...the dream of the $100 PC>. ...but at that price?

[GreenandChrome]

Quote, originally posted by zhenya00 »

Camera connection kit available to download pictures to the device - either usb or SD.

YAY! $19.99 folks.

[iThread]

Quote, originally posted by beng »

...but at that price?

$499?

[zero]

Quote, originally posted by F1_Fan »

Bye-bye Kindle.

I thought the value in the Kindle was in the eInk display, which is just like reading a book thus not causing eye fatigue. (not to mention battery life)

Isn't the iPad more like a traditional LCD screen. I'm pretty sure people don't like reading books on traditional computer screens.

[veedub11]

Quote, originally posted by beng »

<flamesuit> This is the first time in the last decade that Apple has debuted a product that I think has the potential to be a failure. I just don't see where the market is for a hybrid device like this, especially with that price point. ...if it were half the price, I'd say it would grab all the people who can't afford or havent purchased a laptop <ie...the dream of the $100 PC>. ...but at that price?

Who really wants a device that costs $399 and plays MP3s...

[duke_seb]

Quote, originally posted by beng »

<flamesuit> This is the first time in the last decade that Apple has debuted a product that I think has the potential to be a failure. I just don't see where the market is for a hybrid device like this, especially with that price point. ...if it were half the price, I'd say it would grab all the people who can't afford or havent purchased a laptop <ie...the dream of the $100 PC>. ...but at that price?

as soon as i saw what it did i knew the price..... it is an iPod Touch with a larger display..... so what does an ipod touch run 299? the extra cost is is to pay for the larger touch screen...... and 499 is a perfect price point because it competes with netbooks.... and its not so far off the kindle in price vs abilities

i think apple priced it right..... im just not sure the tablet is something that anyone really needs

Modified by duke_seb at 3:53 PM 1-27-2010

[Paneer]

Now that its over and no more surprises I'm disappointed. I'm sure it will be a hit and they'll sell a bunch but as a tech device its disappointing. Probably because I was following all the patent filings and was hoping for a new type of way of interaction.

The iphone software when it came out was huge revolution, it lacked many features but the overall packaging was perfect. Since then the OS has been evolving slowly to catch up to the features it was missing. The two biggest missing features now are multitasking and better home screen/ notifications in general. I was hoping the tablet would be the place they would implement these. The iphone its understandable because of battery life and such but for a "netbook killer" its insane not to have it. Lets say your making a presentation and need to research, you have to close the presentation, open up safari. Copy what you need or memorize it, close safari then pop back into presentations and paste so you have it available to look at or go from memory. Its absurd. All this available for the same price as decently powerful ULV.

Also no video camera, a ichat camera on the front would of been perfect for a device like this.

I guess I had high expectations of this being able to replace netbooks but in the end its just a large ipod with an ebook reader. Hopefully like the iphone the OS will evolve so it can one day replace my laptop for class. The HP Slate looks a lot more appealing now.

Only interesting part was the $15 for 250mb, I would get a data plan for my iphone if that came out. I'm done with my rant, hopefully something was missing from the announcement that we'll find out leading to the release.

[SpiffyGTI]

iPad....what a terrible name.

I hope it tanks miserably.

Quote, originally posted by Ars »

Jobs began the introduction by discussing what kind of device might fit between a smartphone and a laptop. "We've wondered for years as well—in order to create that category, they have to be far better at doing some key tasks... better than the laptop, better than the smartphone," Jobs said. "Now, some people thought that was a netbook—the problem is that netbooks aren't better than anything!"

[Minker17]

The more I look at it and think about it, the less interesting it is to me...

[Chapel]

Quote, originally posted by duke_seb »

the bezel sucks

if it went to the edge you'd be touching the screen area every time you grasped it. it needs some 'grab area' on it. hence the bezel.