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      01-28-2010 10:00 PM #1
      Hey guys,

      While getting my car checked over at TyrolSport shop (Great shop btw, would recommend to any vw/audi/porche owner in the NYC area) they noticed my yellow bottle of $5.46 power steering fluid and told me I need special VW steering fluid or i can damage my car? I ran it by some dub friends and i got mixed answers. Is this true? can i really damage my car by using the wrong power steering fluid? If so, what should I buy for my 04 R32?

      Thanks for the help guys,
      Daniel


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      01-28-2010 10:11 PM #2
      I asked the same questions. But from the experts they recommended the VW stuff. I went to my local dealer and asked for some. Its a bottle of some green fluid.

      I don't remember the price but i have topped off the fluid on a few cars and still have a lot left.

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      01-28-2010 10:21 PM #3
      The stuff I use

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      01-28-2010 10:57 PM #4
      Power steering fluid is Pentosin based. Mine came in a green can.




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      01-28-2010 11:14 PM #5
      yea I would use vw oem fluid.

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      01-28-2010 11:40 PM #7
      hmmm i guess i should just get that then? does it really make a difference what kind I use? Ive heard both yes and no but there has to be a right and wrong answer no? I guess im going to make a stop at the dealer tomorrow, hope its not too overpriced. Is there an easy way to take out the old stuff currently in my car and replace it with this green gold?


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      01-28-2010 11:58 PM #8
      We're a fairly small dealership, but get a mk4 about once every 2 months towed in with no power steering due to blown seals in the rack. Every one I ask if they've used non-oem fluid, and every one has said yes thus far.

      Concrete proof non-oem fluid blows out the rack seals? No. Enough for me to ensure I only use oem stuff? Definitely. I'm sure there is a safe equivalent fluid out there somewhere, but personally, I don't hate money enough to risk it.


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      01-29-2010 12:06 AM #9
      Yea I just did a few more searches and have found some real horror stories. Im going to get some oem fluid asap. Any tips on how to drain the stuff thats in my car out?

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      01-29-2010 05:30 AM #10
      Quote, originally posted by Cano »
      Hey guys,

      While getting my car checked over at TyrolSport shop (Great shop btw, would recommend to any vw/audi/porche owner in the NYC area) they noticed my yellow bottle of $5.46 power steering fluid and told me I need special VW steering fluid or i can damage my car? I ran it by some dub friends and i got mixed answers. Is this true? can i really damage my car by using the wrong power steering fluid? If so, what should I buy for my 04 R32?

      Thanks for the help guys,
      Daniel

      Yes....you need to drain and refill your p/s fluid if you have put in the wrong stuff...its quick and easy.

      I use OEM from VW, but pentisin is the same stuff etc.


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      01-29-2010 09:20 AM #11
      Quote, originally posted by vwgeorge2 »

      Yes....you need to drain and refill your p/s fluid if you have put in the wrong stuff...its quick and easy.

      I use OEM from VW, but pentisin is the same stuff etc.



      Thanks guys, Any tips on how to drain the old p/s fluid? Im about to just go and suck it out with a baster but im sure i cant get all of it out in this way... or can I?


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      01-29-2010 10:40 AM #12
      Quote, originally posted by Cano »


      Thanks guys, Any tips on how to drain the old p/s fluid? Im about to just go and suck it out with a baster but im sure i cant get all of it out in this way... or can I?

      x2...


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      01-29-2010 10:54 AM #13
      Quote, originally posted by BrewDude »
      Power steering fluid is Pentosin based. Mine came in a green can.


      Modified by BrewDude at 2:09 AM 1-29-2010

      x2

      It's a mineral based hydraulic fluid if I remember correctly. Had to use the same stuff in my Audi 90 Quattro. And the stuff in the green can is, itself, green in color just like the OE stuff. As long as it's mineral based you should be OK.

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      01-29-2010 12:29 PM #15
      Quote, originally posted by BrewDude »
      Power steering fluid is Pentosin based. Mine came in a green can.


      Modified by BrewDude at 2:09 AM 1-29-2010

      This is the best stuff however it will not damage the steering using this fluid.


      Modified by xbluewaterx at 9:30 AM 1-29-2010


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      01-29-2010 12:46 PM #16
      Quote, originally posted by Cano »


      Thanks guys, Any tips on how to drain the old p/s fluid? Im about to just go and suck it out with a baster but im sure i cant get all of it out in this way... or can I?

      I removed the lower line from the p/s pump, start the car for a few seconds and its outta there....its a mess, but its out....then let it drain for a few minutes....quick and easy.

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      01-29-2010 12:54 PM #17
      Quote, originally posted by xbluewaterx »

      This is the best stuff however it will not damage the steering using this fluid.


      Modified by xbluewaterx at 9:30 AM 1-29-2010

      This seems very contradictory unless I just didn't have enough coffee this morning... if it's the best stuff why did you say HOWEVER it will not damage the steering

      Heh just want to clarify


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      01-29-2010 01:29 PM #18
      Quote, originally posted by BrewDude »
      Power steering fluid is Pentosin based. Mine came in a green can.


      Quote, originally posted by xbluewaterx »
      This is the best stuff however it will not damage the steering using this fluid.

      Quote, originally posted by KsTyLeVdub311 »
      This seems very contradictory .... if it's the best stuff why did you say HOWEVER it will not damage the steering

      Heh just want to clarify

      the reason it is so good, AND, will not harm your steering plumbing seals, is ...

      ....the pentosin chf 11-s in the green can IS OEM VAG.
      IT'S THE SAME
      (and i believe the part#goo4000, superceded #g002000 part number, but same stuff.
      not certain about #goo2012.
      i believe there is a vag ps fluid that is different, and supposedly not compatible.)


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      01-29-2010 06:08 PM #19
      Quote, originally posted by vwgeorge2 »

      I removed the lower line from the p/s pump, start the car for a few seconds and its outta there....its a mess, but its out....then let it drain for a few minutes....quick and easy.

      Thanks for the info guys, I just picked up a small bottle of the vw fluid from the dealer. It was only 12 bucks! VwGeorge2 I think im going to do the same as you, thanks for the tips


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      02-08-2010 12:53 PM #20
      Glad I saw this thread. My level is a good bit below the minimum line. I've owned the car since new and with no leaks I'd stopped checking the fluid. Clearly that is not good approach and it's time to change that behavior!

      Heading the dealer to pick up a bottle ($11.50) and other items.

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      02-08-2010 01:07 PM #21
      whoops. i guess i need to drain my fluid. I have been running Lucas Oil power steering fluid for a long time now. No problems, no leaks, and the steering is fine.
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      02-08-2010 08:24 PM #22
      in VW's, I only use VW brand fluids. Otherwise it will make you regret it

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      02-08-2010 08:28 PM #23
      Use VW power steering fluid, just bought some Saturday, under 16$...

    24. 07-27-2010 05:32 PM #24
      Really stupid question:

      Is the original color of the power steering fluid from VW "BLUE"? (look inside your PS reservoir).

      I called VW dealer and spoke to the parts dept. and they said they sell "green" colored PS Fluid. Never heard of BLUE colored PS Fluid.

      Can anyone confirm that VW BLUE is mineral PS Fluid that can be mixed with the "GREEN" they are selling at the dealer?

      My research shows that VW BLUE is mineral non-synthetic and GREEN is mineral synthetic.

      Any help would be appreciated.

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      07-27-2010 06:03 PM #25
      OE fluid from the factory is GREEN. If you have blue fluid I'd suspect someone put a different fluid in there.

      If in doubt, suck out the old fluid using a turkey baster or siphon type deal and replace with the correct fluid.

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      07-27-2010 07:20 PM #26
      i saw that i posted in here back in 2008 using Lucas Oil Fluid and reported zero problems.
      Still using it to this very day and everything is fine. I check for fluid leaks and seal leaks all the time and nothing.
      Lucas Oil makes great products and i trust it.

      So we will see.
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    27. 07-27-2010 08:43 PM #27
      OE fluid from the factory is GREEN. If you have blue fluid I'd suspect someone put a different fluid in there.

      If in doubt, suck out the old fluid using a turkey baster or siphon type deal and replace with the correct fluid.
      Thanks Uberhare.

      Check out post number 3 above. There is a picture of "blue" power steering fluid in a VW/Audi marked bottle.

      I took mine to the dealer (I know someone inside, but he is on vacation right now) when I got my car back, my PS fluid was blue. I know I bought "green" to top off before.

      So that is why I was questioning if Blue and green are "mixable".

      Thanks.

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