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      02-05-2010 01:47 PM #106
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      Hmm, that still doesn't make much sense. I don't see the gated drive across the street anywhere.

      Go north a bit. The article says he has "other access" to the property. The structure with the Ferrari isn't part of the house but is a separate structure. Move up until you see some trees and a ravine to the left. You'll see the driveway on the right. I think they cut the trees, put up the wall and made the bridge to cross the ravine.
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      02-05-2010 01:57 PM #107
      This needs to be on page 4

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      02-05-2010 02:00 PM #108
      Methinks if homeboy has had this kind of construction going on for five years, people might have a slight reason to be pissed.

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      02-05-2010 02:03 PM #109
      This guy has a regular garage on the other side of his property where he keeps his regular cars. That is one reason his neighbors are up in arms because his permit for the "sky" garage was obtained under false pretenses. He got the permit because he claimed that this would be the main garage and he needed access to avoid parking on the streets (street parking is highly restricted in the hills section of LA because of fire truck access issues during brush fires and earthquakes). This is what the neighborhood association are saying regarding setting "precedents". Basically, this is what he did (in order):
      1. Demolish an existing garage where he expanded his house
      2. Apply for permit for sky garage and bridge, claiming he needs the parking space
      3. Subsequently added more garage space on a different parcel of land that he owns adjacent to his house
      4. HOA can afford better lawyers
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      Please note: I'm not siding with the HOA and the City... I'm just laying out the facts that seems to be missing from the discussion in this thread.

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      02-05-2010 02:05 PM #110
      Quote, originally posted by sirswank »
      public pressure = neighbors and the Brentwood Homeowners Assn.

      But public pressure shouldn't be able to change the zoning and construction laws of said area of already approved existing construction. I don't understand this.
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      article states the city building inspectors came multiple times during the build and had no problem with it. (i came multiple times looking at the article too, FYI)

      wtf? TMI.
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      02-05-2010 02:06 PM #111
      Quote, originally posted by jeff1234 »
      This needs to be on page 4


      That is a MASSIVE lot for Brentwood... Millions and millions in land value alone .
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      02-05-2010 02:18 PM #112
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      this is one of many reasons to not live in california. they tax the sh*t out you, they have retarded enviro laws. Houes prices are insane, and you are surrounded by brain dead liberals. to me cali would be hell

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      02-05-2010 02:28 PM #113
      Quote, originally posted by bzcat »
      That is one reason his neighbors are up in arms because his permit for the "sky" garage was obtained under false pretenses.

      legally, what he did was sneaky, but sounds like it's within the letter of the law.
      At the time he applied for the permit, that was to be his only garage.
      "Future plans" are irrelevant. Future plans for adjacent parcels are even more irrelevant.
      I wonder what shady zoning loopholes you'd find if you looked into his neighbors... from experiences I've had in my area... hypocrisy abounds when it comes to people complaining about zoning.
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      02-05-2010 02:29 PM #114
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      02-05-2010 02:32 PM #115
      Quote, originally posted by Surf Green »
      I wonder what shady zoning loopholes you'd find if you looked into his neighbors... from experiences I've had in my area... hypocrisy abounds when it comes to people complaining about zoning.

      Yep. I'm sure there are a few "schools" and "day care centers" and other places of business in that area on residential only zoned property.
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    11. 02-05-2010 02:35 PM #116
      i'm less than 2 miles away. i'll head over and take some pics

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      02-05-2010 02:56 PM #117
      if the problem is about the bridge being unsafe, then add a room or storage something under the bridge so now the bridge is physically connected tp the ground and is no longer classified as a bridge, but is now the roof of the "room" below.
      If his project was approved by the city, then all of a sudden it isn't, how many other projects could the city have torn down, removed because people complained and the said the city made a incorrect judgement.
      I would think the city would be all for it. If his property value goes up, tht means more tax dollars...right?
      Personally, I don't think the bridge is a safety hazard. It allows the owner to pull into the garage/3rd floor slowly and in control. Could you image if it wasn't there, how fast he would have to drive to clear the gap and then stop in time before crashing through the glass wall?
      Also, would it have been a problem if that was just a foot bridge for another street entrance? Because it involves imposing an inconveinance on someone, his neighbors are all over it. Would it make a difference to his neighbors if he drove something else...at least the 512BB has style, taste and class.
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      02-05-2010 02:59 PM #118
      I love how all the CA haters come out of the woodwork in these threads.
      Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket?

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      02-05-2010 03:04 PM #119
      Quote, originally posted by boraIV &raquo;
      Hmm, that still doesn't make much sense. I don't see the gated drive across the street anywhere.


      this

      is this

      according to this pic


      that curve is actually more dangerous for the neighbor across the street.
      Quote, originally posted by BRealistic &raquo;
      But public pressure shouldn't be able to change the zoning and construction laws of said area of already approved existing construction. I don't understand this.

      that's why it's so wrong. the city OK'd it during construction. now the neighbors are pissed and are just trying to be vindictive the only way they know how... whine and sue


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      02-05-2010 03:06 PM #120
      If you scroll along that road, his house looks to be about half the size of some of the homes which are sitting on smaller lots than his. People need something better to bitch and moan about.
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      02-05-2010 03:29 PM #121
      Quote, originally posted by sirswank &raquo;

      this
      pix
      is this
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      according to this pic
      pix

      that curve is actually more dangerous for the neighbor across the street.
      that's why it's so wrong. the city OK'd it during construction. now the neighbors are pissed and are just trying to be vindictive the only way they know how... whine and sue

      Modified by sirswank at 3:05 PM 2-5-2010

      Thanks, i got it now! Exactly why I wanted to find it... From both of those streets you can clearly see any hazards up ahead. Sucky neighbors suck

    17. 02-05-2010 03:35 PM #122
      So I went by this house. Got out and started to take some pictures. I guess the owner noticed that I was out there and came out and asked if he could help me. I told him about this thread and that I was taking some pictures for it. He asked if I would like to see the inside. I said sure. He told me about the issues he was having and that the bridge was there to STAY. The house is still in construction.
      on with the pics
      this is the view heading up to the house


      this is the first drive way


      this is the gate in front of the bridge


      the bridge


      the bridge and interior


      the view


      more view


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      I wish him luck and hope everything works out for him

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      02-05-2010 03:37 PM #123
      Freaking awesome! Good job on the recon work. I'm rooting for this Schubert guy all the way. Live and let live.
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      02-05-2010 03:37 PM #124
      Wow! Seems like a cool guy. [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]
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      02-05-2010 03:39 PM #125
      Quote, originally posted by jeff1234 &raquo;
      Freaking awesome! Good job on the recon work. I'm rooting for this Schubert guy all the way. Live and let live.

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      02-05-2010 03:46 PM #126
      Damn, TCL is downright 4Chan-esque. Glad the guy was cool, he could've easily been creeped out and ran you off. I know I would've.

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      02-05-2010 03:47 PM #127
      Quote, originally posted by garef001 &raquo;
      So I went by this house. Got out and started to take some pictures. I guess the owner noticed that I was out there and came out and asked if he could help me. I told him about this thread and that I was taking some pictures for it. He asked if I would like to see the inside. I said sure. He told me about the issues he was having and that the bridge was there to STAY. The house is still in construction.
      on with the pics
      this is the view heading up to the house


      this is the first drive way


      this is the gate in front of the bridge


      the bridge


      the bridge and interior


      the view


      more view


      Holger Schubert nice guy [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]


      I wish him luck and hope everything works out for him

      Cool story br.... no really, cool story.
      And that is why I wish people would put their real location in thier bio. I would never have guessed you lived in that area.
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      02-05-2010 03:47 PM #128
      Excellent reconaissance work! Nice wellies, Holger.
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      02-05-2010 03:49 PM #129
      Quote, originally posted by Fritz27 &raquo;
      Damn, TCL is downright 4Chan-esque. Glad the guy was cool, he could've easily been creeped out and ran you off. I know I would've.

      Well, he left out the part about the guy offering him a beverage and then the next thing he remembers is waking up in the street four hours later with his pants and shoes missing.
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      02-05-2010 03:52 PM #130
      Quote, originally posted by garef001 &raquo;
      this is the view heading up to the house

      That can't be the right place - it never rains in California...
      Quote &raquo;
      Holger Schubert nice guy [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]

      I wish him luck and hope everything works out for him

      Definitely a nice guy to invite you in like that. I hope for the best for him too - his garage is amazing and the 512 is stunning in silver! [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]
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      02-05-2010 03:54 PM #131
      That is so awesome... I was thinking of going but I'm stuck at work .
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      02-05-2010 03:54 PM #132
      Quote, originally posted by garef001 &raquo;
      ...


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    28. 02-05-2010 03:57 PM #133
      Quote, originally posted by garef001 &raquo;
      So I went by this house.....


      Nice work! Outstanding!
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      02-05-2010 03:58 PM #134
      Good work garef001 way to go the extra mile for this thread and all in one day.

    30. 02-05-2010 04:02 PM #135
      I understand the neighbor's are upset about the construction taking so long, but he doesn't seem to be the type of guy to half ass the work. So, when it's all said and done it is only going to increase the neighbor's property value.

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      02-05-2010 04:04 PM #136
      He looks like a major tool. That looks like the most uncomfortable living room.
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      02-05-2010 04:05 PM #137
      Quote, originally posted by Ben.Reilly &raquo;
      He looks like a major tool. That looks like the most uncomfortable living room.

      You do realize that is a garage.......
      Perhaps my sarcasm meter is broken.
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      02-05-2010 04:05 PM #138
      I wonder if Mr. Schubert is reading this thread at this very moment...
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      02-05-2010 04:11 PM #139
      Quote, originally posted by garef001 &raquo;
      So I went by this house.

      Wow, pretty cool [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]
      I don't see this great cali weather people have been talking about

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      Quote, originally posted by VWVan &raquo;
      Wow, pretty cool [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]
      I don't see this great cali weather people have been talking about

      It's supposed to clear up later in the afternoon .
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