I have helped install their kits in a couple of vw's with no problems but that sucks what that guy went through.
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though some of you might enjoy reading this !
http://forum.E46Fanatics.com/s...29112
"women need to approach men about a Lease option Maybe he'll be willing to take you till your forty. Then he can trade you in for two twenties"
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I have helped install their kits in a couple of vw's with no problems but that sucks what that guy went through.
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everyone finally realises VF sucksHPF ftw
#4
Moral of the story, don't use your own car as a guinea pig for product development.
#5
I don't feel like reading all of that thread.
Did anybody with VF post?And FWIW- all it takes is one bad kit (and a refusal for them to take responsibility for the damage they cause) to ruin a tuners rep. That's a risky business.
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Quote, originally posted by 12v71 » Moral of the story, don't use your own car as a guinea pig for product development. I didn't read it that way, but I did skim through parts. If that's true, he should have had VF agree to cover any collateral damage during the development.
And is 12:1 ARF super lean for 15 pounds boost?
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Quote, originally posted by Nitroholic » everyone finally realises VF sucks HPF ftw
haha yea, i was gonna go stage 2 vf on my R then i stepped back and rethought my idea, and HPA was way better
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Quote, originally posted by BRealistic » I didn't read it that way, but I did skim through parts. If that's true, he should have had VF agree to cover any collateral damage during the development.
And is 12:1 ARF super lean for 15 pounds boost?
12.0:1 is fine, 12.9:1 is pushing it. What's more important is timing advance at those pressures, especially at peak tq.
#9
I've voiced my opinions on VF.I'm sure they'll be in the thread shortly
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#11
A couple years ago I sent them an e-mail when I was first learning about superchargers, and putting them on VR6s. I had seen someone with a procharger on their VR6 and just wanted to see what VF's supercharger brackets looked like (thinking maybe they could be modified to run a procharger) instead of the V-9. A very simple answer, explaining that for copyright reasons they could not release photos of their products, would have been fine. But no, instead I got an e-mail that said "you must be joking ha ha ha ha" To me, that is a VERY big indicator to the true "core values" of that company.I do what I can to make sure my friends don't get ANYTHING from them.
#12
one thing. if it wasnt for vw . vf would be out of business! and VF is to embaresed to comment on this post it has been around for quite a long time. and this man isnt the only one that they blew up an engine!!just saying vf engineering should die out! or somebody with better know how should buy it out!
its just sad to see these things happen!
"women need to approach men about a Lease option Maybe he'll be willing to take you till your forty. Then he can trade you in for two twenties"
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Quote, originally posted by snobum » one thing. if it wasnt for vw . vf would be out of business! and VF is to embaresed to comment on this post it has been around for quite a long time. and this man isnt the only one that they blew up an engine!! just saying vf engineering should die out! or somebody with better know how should buy it out!
its just sad to see these things happen!
The economic boom we had before the recession allowed many businesses to get fat with labor - and allowed employees to be very specialized while many managers basically did nothing (but cash their paychecks).
The recession forced many businesses to cut back on labor, and forced many managers to actually get back to work. And unfortunately, many of the managers are not competent enough to handle the specialized work they previously managed.
Not saying that's the case at VF, but if they have gone significantly downhill in the last year, that may be the case (the comment about the shop not having the cash flow to pay for something made me think about this).
Modified by BRealistic at 3:18 PM 2/6/2010
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Oh look, you slap an experimental supercharger from a company who doesn't know what their doing, then you run it hard on the drag strip... and you're surprised it blew up?Edit: Then you give them more money to blow it up again.
Since when is the exhaust smoking part of a break in? Never heard of that one.
Modified by Jetty! at 3:24 PM 2-6-2010
Forum software seems better. Trying to sell my 99.5 TDI with 220k miles.
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Quote, originally posted by Jetty! » Oh look, you slap an experimental supercharger from a company who doesn't know what their doing, then you run it hard on the drag strip... and you're surprised it blew up? Not to mention that you question the AFM tune during the entire ordeal.
FWIW- not even Mazda Wankels smoke like that after a rebuild.
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#16
It seems there are soo many shady tuning companies out there. Sucks for that guys though, I wonder how much money he dumped into that car.I cant find any post from anyone from VF. Is there any from that Nik guy trying to defend himself?
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That's pretty bad but no tuner surpasses the stories I read on my350z about VRT.
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Quote, originally posted by VRClownCar » A couple years ago I sent them an e-mail when I was first learning about superchargers, and putting them on VR6s. I had seen someone with a procharger on their VR6 and just wanted to see what VF's supercharger brackets looked like (thinking maybe they could be modified to run a procharger) instead of the V-9. A very simple answer, explaining that for copyright reasons they could not release photos of their products, would have been fine. But no, instead I got an e-mail that said "you must be joking ha ha ha ha" To me, that is a VERY big indicator to the true "core values" of that company. I do what I can to make sure my friends don't get ANYTHING from them.
But isn't VF the only "tuner" making something to supercharge the VR6 in the MKIVs? Any other SC set up is pretty much custom from what I had read...
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Quote, originally posted by mr_e1974 »
But isn't VF the only "tuner" making something to supercharge the VR6 in the MKIVs? Any other SC set up is pretty much custom from what I had read...But who cares? On a VR6 a supercharger install is so invasive that they're are absolutely no benefits over an entry level turbo setup. Price wise they're identical, install time is the same, one gives you more torque and a future upgrade path. Tell me again why we need a supercharger option?
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this is terribleshould I post it on M3forums.net?
I m pretty active in the e36 section but the e46 section is full of bozos
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#21
This reminds me of the RMS deal a few years back on M5board. Few E39 M5's go in to get supercharged, all hell breaks loose, companies reputation tanks, and another tuner saves the day.You pay your money, you take your chances.
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Quote, originally posted by Navydub »
, install time is the same,bull****
Quote, originally posted by Navydub »
Price wise they're identical,no again.
#23
also, fwiw, leaving VF totally out of the picture, I find it a little ridiculous (but not strange in this day and age) that people are massively modifying their engines power output (and making them do something they were never designed for from the factory) and EXPECTING that when something goes wrong the tuner is going to pay for it. Tuning cars is a risk reward scenario. If you can't get deal with the potential risk, get out of the game.
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Quote, originally posted by rs4-380 » also, fwiw, leaving VF totally out of the picture, I find it a little ridiculous (but not strange in this day and age) that people are massively modifying their engines power output (and making them do something they were never designed for from the factory) and EXPECTING that when something goes wrong the tuner is going to pay for it. Tuning cars is a risk reward scenario. If you can't get deal with the potential risk, get out of the game. the real thing is this guy was supercharged and went turbo for reliability! and the switch to a company that invested 250000$ + into r&d and did not cut corners by anymeans .. but yes i agree what you said.
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geez. I thought I had reason to complain about VF. Not really anything compared to that guy. vf=
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Quote, originally posted by rs4-380 » also, fwiw, leaving VF totally out of the picture, I find it a little ridiculous (but not strange in this day and age) that people are massively modifying their engines power output (and making them do something they were never designed for from the factory) and EXPECTING that when something goes wrong the tuner is going to pay for it. Tuning cars is a risk reward scenario. If you can't get deal with the potential risk, get out of the game. And that's why my cars aren't even "chipped". Not worth the potential risk.
Forum software seems better. Trying to sell my 99.5 TDI with 220k miles.
#27
everyone I know that has had vf on their cars has had numerous major headaches....
MK4 R32 FTW!
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Reminds me of the EIP debacle of a few years ago.Ahhh memories.
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#29
I have nothing to say about VF except they gave me great customer service and I loved my 3 motor mounts
sux to be that guy if its all true
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Quote, originally posted by MyBlueR32Turbo » I have nothing to say about VF except they gave me great customer service and I loved my 3 motor mounts sux to be that guy if its all true
its very true!! i use their motor mounts as well! but as a tuning source i would never bring any of my cars to them
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#31
Quote, originally posted by 12v71 » Moral of the story, don't use your own car as a guinea pig for product development. sadly....I know this all too well....
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#32
Quote, originally posted by Navydub » I've disliked VF ever since my VF Stg2 experience x2 I don't like their attitude. They're basically yuppies with a dyno and no tech experience. There has always been something about them that I didn't like. Maybe that oil leaks constantly from my s/c and when I take my skidplate off, it's like draining the oil when I take the front passenger side bolt out. They always play it off like any problem is nothing. Obviously if oil is coming out of the s/c somewhere and it happens on all of them, then there is a f*cking problem you half retarded moron!
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Quote, originally posted by Das Borgen » this is terrible should I post it on M3forums.net?
I m pretty active in the e36 section but the e46 section is full of bozos
its been there since the beginning, same with bimmerforums
so dont post it unless you want to look like a retard
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Quote, originally posted by Nitroholic » its been there since the beginning, same with bimmerforums
so dont post it unless you want to look like a retard
a retard among the bozos of the e46 section?
might be worth it
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#35
Quote, originally posted by Das Borgen » a retard among the bozos of the e46 section?
might be worth it
except they have more money than vw owners and can afford a better german car! mk4 fwd. e46 and all bmw rwd. for performance a rwd car is better hands down.
i posted this up so people can see how vf can really ruin your day! ive been watching this topic on e46fanatics.com for a long time now.
Modified by snobum at 8:20 PM 2-6-2010
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