1983 Scirocco Wolfsburg and Other Special Edition Thread.

[sutton83k]

I just found out that my '83 mars red iiis a wolfsburg. that had me excited all week.

[mk1dubbn]

Nice color.

[California 16v]

Quote, originally posted by sutton83k »

I just found out that my '83 mars red iiis a wolfsburg. that had me excited all week.

here is proof that sutton83k Scirocco, build date 4/83 (the earliest Wolfsburg I've seen) came a stock 1.8 JH

[sutton83k]

wow! the color rele is fading ...im on waxing duty this weekend

[mk1dubbn]

Quote, originally posted by sutton83k »

wow! the color rele is fading ...im on waxing duty this weekend

That noting you should see mine.

[California 16v]

here is a faded Mars Red 83

belongs to friend of mine California, I rode in it in March of this year

[88Jetta350]

Does mine count, since you didn't get it over there? If not, I'll delete this post.

'83 Scirocco GTi, (will get the VIN/Build date later)

Engine code DX, 1.8 8v Solid Lifter running CIS Basic. 115HP Coupled to a 9A tranny.

Current mods: Supersprint "Group N" Exhaust, no cat (didn't come with one ) no muffler. (using a stock front resonator w/ a nice tip as a muffler)
15x7 Polished Cups (currently on the Syncro)
Crappy Repaint (stupid PO), (will post original color code here)
Bad rear arch replacement. (stupid PO)
Kamei front spoiler (need to find rest of kit)
Kamei grille spoiler
Zender rear spoiler
Fuba Antenna
Momo "Corse" steering wheel" (will be replaced w/ a period correct Momo wheel that I have in the basement)









About to go under the knife for a full resto.

[european_rocc]

Sorry for bringing back this old thread...

This whole '83 wolfsburg thing annoys me soo much! lol.

technically my '83 is a wolfsburg edition, and although repainted mars red, it started out as a silver color. Leather seats, tarantula wheels, 1.8 JH engine (original 1.8 seized), and everything else that fits the description. I believe it was made in summer or so of '83, i just know that it's a month older than my '84, which also has leather seats but oddly enough isn't a wolfsburg edition.

But, when i am not on the internet and talking to real people in real life (like some Canadian dude who was the original owner of his ,now only about 40k miles clocked, Mars Red '83 car with a 1.8 and leather seats) tell me the whole Wolfsburg thing was just a scam and that all of these options could be ordered regardless. In fact he went so far as to tell me that every single american '83 scirocco had the 1.8.

Just about every '83 i've ever seen has leather seats, and the owners all tell me the same thing! Isn't there some kind of way to look at the VIN and know for a fact if a car is a wolfsburg edition or not?

EDIT:

I'm in!
As far as I know, 82 and 83 cars have small trim

it also had that small trim that is shown on this pic. All this time i thought it was an aftermarket trim! I JUST took it off with a paint scraper yesturday!

[european_rocc]

Well i just took a look at my paint code just in case...

The paper in the trunk is a bit hard to read, but you can deffinitely make out L-7Y. I intend to show the pic once i can get it up... But after looking at some rocco paint codes for silver, i figured out that it's either Flash Silver (LP7Y) or Zermatt (LY7Y). It reaaallly looks like it could either be a P or a Y, though now that i look at it... looks more like a Y .

The manufacture date is on 6/83 like most of these seem to be, and as someone suggested, it could very well be that they threw on Flash Silver paint. I do know it has all the options a wolfsburg does, and it lists the engine code as a JH (1.8) Carfax would argue otherwise however...

It lists the car as having a 1.7L engine if i remember right, and it's first thing that was recorded was in '88 when it got shipped from Hawaii to Seattle by it's original owners *side notestill has the insurance sticker on the back from 1988 and it's a couple layers thick. Also i believe it had papers claiming sale in Honalulu,(The same place as my '84!) *

I forgot who owned a Cali Special edition, but that'd be cool to see that trunk sticker. Either way this would be interesting cause one way we can prove that late '83's could come in flash silver, or that zermatt silver wasn't limited to the Cali Special version.



PS: Are we being Scirocco nerdy enough?!

[A1peopleS2wagons]

ZENDER,ZENDER!

[european_rocc]

Well that myth is "Busted!"

my sticker


compared to an actual California Edition


Explanation: Model Code: R44 and Paint Code: LY7Y on the same sticker. Proof that not only my car is a Wolfsburg, but that the California Edition in fact wasn't the only trim model to come in Zermat Silver (California Edition's Model Code was S44).

[Mtl-Marc]

... In fact he went so far as to tell me that every single american '83 scirocco had the 1.8.

Early 1983 Scirocco had the 1.7l motor and an FN transmission (long ratio), then midyear VW switched to the JH/2H combo, and called them the Wolfsburg Edition.

[Cessnapilot89]

How do you tell if it is a WE without the badging?

[european_rocc]

Early 1983 Scirocco had the 1.7l motor and an FN transmission (long ratio), then midyear VW switched to the JH/2H combo, and called them the Wolfsburg Edition.

I know right?

I think that the 83's with the 1.7 are just really rare. And in any color other than Mars Red, Black Met, or silver I wish I knew probabilities....

Oh and there's a few ways to tell if the car's a WolfsBurg: Paint, Engine code, Tranny code, leather seats, I keep hearing about sway bars but i don't know what they would look like. I only have a "swaybar" in the back of the car, and that's part of the "independent suspension." Would really like to see a pic of said sways....

But it's like I say, pretty much every '83 I see is a wolfsburg. Friend just took a pic of an '83 the other day randomly and like i predicted.... ANOTHER wolfsburg edition And all 4 people i've talked to who had an '83 scirocco before had them in red, and they all had the 1.8 stock.... This is just my point of view though.

[Mr-X]

mine

[european_rocc]

mine

Ha! I remember that one. Been a while

[jimbilly]

I had an '83, I think it was a wolfsburg but I'm not sure. It was chocolate; dark brown with clearcoat, the clearcoat pretty much all came off eventually. It had the 1.8 and a close ratio 5 speed, sway bars front and rear, single wiper of course, full leather interior, AC that didn't work by the time I bought it (109k miles). Sunroof, power heated mirrors but manual windows. It ran great up to 342k miles until I got hit hard in the rear. I still have a few parts from that car, some are on my '88 16v. My friend had one pretty much identical.

[european_rocc]

Huh, brown wasn't one of their listed colors for the wolfsburg edition, but this comes to me with no surprise...

I bet it was sold from the dealership as a wolfy :p

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[83mk2scirocco]

Huh, brown wasn't one of their listed colors for the wolfsburg edition, but this comes to me with no surprise...

I bet it was sold from the dealership as a wolfy :p

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The Scirocco Wolfsburg Edition of 1983-1985. A special U.S. model, available in Mars red, Black metallic or Zermatt silver.
Straight from Dr.Dub.But there also was white,maybe they had an special order?

[Rannoch]

Oh and there's a few ways to tell if the car's a WolfsBurg: Paint, Engine code, Tranny code, leather seats, I keep hearing about sway bars but i don't know what they would look like. I only have a "swaybar" in the back of the car, and that's part of the "independent suspension." Would really like to see a pic of said sways....

My Wolfsburg came stock with sways but I don't know if there's anything special about them.

[european_rocc]

The Scirocco Wolfsburg Edition of 1983-1985. A special U.S. model, available in Mars red, Black metallic or Zermatt silver.
Straight from Dr.Dub.But there also was white,maybe they had an special order?

Yeah I know, I've been all over that site. Just suggesting that 83 wolfsburg editions aren't always as rare and special as they are made out to be :/ I think in this case sales of the vw scirocco were more important than wether or not the car was a genuine wolfsburg edition.

It seems that it's the reason why they introduced it in the first place was for sales, but with no significant badging, vin code, or anything like that, it seems to make them fairly common.

I have a hunch that late 83 cars could come with the 1.8, and maybe leather seats as well, by then the only difference between the wolfsburg edition would be color, but if it meant an extra sale I dont doubt a dealer would tag the car as a special edition.

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[83mk2scirocco]

Yeah I know, I've been all over that site. Just suggesting that 83 wolfsburg editions aren't always as rare and special as they are made out to be :/ I think in this case sales of the vw scirocco were more important than wether or not the car was a genuine wolfsburg edition.

It seems that it's the reason why they introduced it in the first place was for sales, but with no significant badging, vin code, or anything like that, it seems to make them fairly common.

I have a hunch that late 83 cars could come with the 1.8, and maybe leather seats as well, by then the only difference between the wolfsburg edition would be color, but if it meant an extra sale I dont doubt a dealer would tag the car as a special edition.

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Hmmmm,
I think it was stated on build sticker in the trunk not the vin.

[european_rocc]

I an pretty sure this picture is of an 84. Rubber trim and the fact it had a badge tells me this. The rubber trim used in 83 was placed higher up and it was thinner. What is the date of manufacture?

[83mk2scirocco]

Hello I see the bump.
I just spent the week end putting mine back together.
I was hoeing to fix it up with some paint.
I bought a 76 and had to chose between the 82 and the wolfie.The wolfie won hands down.
I can believe I found a 76 I am so in heaven.

[bside1978]

Just added this 1983 Scirocco to my dub family....

Built 4/83 - Canadian Wolfsberg spec -

[83mk2scirocco]

Nice documentation.

[european_rocc]

Just added this 1983 Scirocco to my dub family....

Built 4/83 - Canadian Wolfsberg spec -

oooh, another zermatt silver '83 wolfie!

This is interesting, this car appears to have the newer rubber trim on it, and it also doesn't have a wolfsburg badge. I wonder what was up with the thinner trim that my car and some other '83's had. Mine was built a couple months after this car was as well.

I've also recently seen this (supposedly and aged zermatt silver) at WaterWerks this year



it's an '83, supposedly a wolfsburg. It had the newer trim. According to the kid who owned it, it used to have a wolfsburg badge as well and that's the way it came from the factory, but i highly doubt this, hardly anything on the car was original, and the kid was like the 5th owner or something. it DID have the leather seats however. What was left of them...

[83mk2scirocco]

oooh, another zermatt silver '83 wolfie!

This is interesting, this car appears to have the newer rubber trim on it, and it also doesn't have a wolfsburg badge. I wonder what was up with the thinner trim that my car and some other '83's had. Mine was built a couple months after this car was as well.

I've also recently seen this (supposedly and aged zermatt silver) at WaterWerks this year



it's an '83, supposedly a wolfsburg. It had the newer trim. According to the kid who owned it, it used to have a wolfsburg badge as well and that's the way it came from the factory, but i highly doubt this, hardly anything on the car was original, and the kid was like the 5th owner or something. it DID have the leather seats however. What was left of them...

I have the thin trim on my mine.

[european_rocc]

Is it glued or rivetted on? Mine was rivetted main thing slowing me down on that car

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[83mk2scirocco]

Sticky tape glue.
They are removed now.
I just don't park close to any one.

[Flashback58]

Hey guys, I figured I'd pipe in here... Ive got a zermatt silver 1983 Wolfsburg Scirocco... Dated on the tag 3/83 vin'd 020794. Looking through this thread, is this now the earliest one we have found so far?

It has front and rear factory sway bars, leather interior, and the wolfsburg badging on the b-pillars. I cant really comment on the engine and tranny combo in it, as it has a 1.9 TD engine and custom geared 020 swapped into it... Not a finished swap but its in there and most of the gasser stuff has been cut out.

I'll grab some pictures of it in the next couple days and see if I can find the build tag under the rear carpet.

Brant.

[83mk2scirocco]

Hey guys, I figured I'd pipe in here... Ive got a zermatt silver 1983 Wolfsburg Scirocco... Dated on the tag 3/83 vin'd 020794. Looking through this thread, is this now the earliest one we have found so far?

It has front and rear factory sway bars, leather interior, and the wolfsburg badging on the b-pillars. I cant really comment on the engine and tranny combo in it, as it has a 1.9 TD engine and custom geared 020 swapped into it... Not a finished swap but its in there and most of the gasser stuff has been cut out.

I'll grab some pictures of it in the next couple days and see if I can find the build tag under the rear carpet.

Brant.

Nice,you are the first person to have a TDI scirocco.

[vwdaun]

Note he said TD, not TDI. Drew's been running a 1.9 TD for awhile, but I suspect he'll be the first one to finish a TDI swap.

[83mk2scirocco]

Note he said TD, not TDI. Drew's been running a 1.9 TD for awhile, but I suspect he'll be the first one to finish a TDI swap.

Oh,I "assumed"it was a TDI.I put 1.9 and the turbo together and got TDI,.....
I stand ccorrected there area couple diesel rocco's.

[sciroccohal]

How do you tell if it is a WE without the badging?

answer; you can't.

Wolfsburg and other 'editions' were not special and add ZERO to the value or rarity of the car.

For those of us who where driving Scirocco's at the time, we know and realize that the Wolfsburg was a way for VW marketing to get rid of a bunch of old sciroccos at the end of their life. Got a bunch of 83's sitting around slap some badges on 'em, make them SEEM special.
It was a marketing ploy to make the car appear 'fresh' and get them off the lot.

They're about as special as a Maverick with racing stripes.

There were NO performance up-grades...just trim and a couple of smarmy badges.

VW was very successful in fooling the public to this day.

There are hundreds of 'wolfsburg' cars out there with badges gotten from a junkyard.