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    Thread: The Great Kalashnikov - Official AK Thread

    1. 11-19-2011 07:37 PM #276
      WTF? $475!? You can get those for $230 lol...

    2. 11-19-2011 07:55 PM #277
      Quote Originally Posted by Elbows View Post
      WTF? $475!? You can get those for $230 lol...
      That's not what the ad he posted says. Buy it now $475

    3. 11-23-2011 09:40 AM #278
      I've been looking into the SAIGA AK rifles and they seem to be quality units for a decent price. However, I recall reading somewhere they use a proprietary magazine. Is that true of the both the AK variant and the sporting rifle? I really want to get into the AK platform but don't want to waste my time with a model that isn't going to have essentially universal compatibility with every other AK out there.

      The sporting rifle is a sick deal but I'm curious if I would be better off in the long run just skipping that and ponying up the extra cash for the AK variant. I haven't seen better prices on either than at http://www.classicarms.us/Saiga.htm

    4. 11-23-2011 07:53 PM #279
      The Saiga rifles themselves in their sporting configuration (which go for $350-400 ---- I believe do need some adjustments to accept proper AK magazines. Any of the SGL models are already 100% good to go for standard AK magazines.

      I do find my Saiga's magazine well a bit tight though compared to my Arsenal. Not a big deal.

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      12-02-2011 01:47 PM #280
      Anyone here own a AK 74?

      5.45x39 ammo is ridiculously cheap right now. I was considering picking one up since 7.62x39 chambered AK's are banned here in CT (I would gotten that instead).

      for like $700.00, I can pick up about 9,000 (5.45x39) rounds for SHTF purposes.

      Any thoughts on the reliability of a AK74? (I dont own a ak47/74, but heard from people that the AK47 "is a rifle in its simplest form" and are reliable as all hell)

      Thanks in advanced.
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    6. 12-02-2011 03:16 PM #281
      Look back through the thread, and you'll see lots of 74-style owners here. It's all I own. I don't own or run surplus, but I may pick up a couple of cases. It's corrosive, which I'm not a big fan of. Both of my go-to guns are 5.45x39.

      The best available one right now is a Arsenal Saiga SGL-31, which start around $820.00. You can find others for cheaper, but like all things, you'll have more risk of defects as you sink down toward the $400-500 range.

    7. 12-26-2011 06:09 PM #282
      A little bit of "WTF" from our Hungarian friends. How would you like a 14+ lb AK rifle?









      ...

      And to balance that out, Travis Haley grabbed a RD-74 (nearly identical to mine)


    8. 12-29-2011 02:10 PM #283
      The most useless, albeit comical example of reliability...

      AK with a full Twinkie shoved inside it before loading and firing. It then links to the same test with an AR.



      Must have smelled great.

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      01-03-2012 09:05 PM #284
      Quote Originally Posted by Elbows View Post
      A little bit of "WTF" from our Hungarian friends. How would you like a 14+ lb AK rifle?

      And to balance that out, Travis Haley grabbed a RD-74 (nearly identical to mine)
      The AK with all the accessories reminds me of something I learned in Iraq. Foreign soldiers like to use our gear (Aimpoints, bipod grips, etc) not because they are superior but because they think they look like cool American movie stars with that stuff. They play the same video games we do and watch the same action movies. They want to look and act like Jet Li, Rambo, or Bruce Willis because they think our stuff is, well, cool. I bet the photo was taken of all this gear because the guy's rifle was the coolest looking around. In all honesty it's not going to be any more accurate, effective, or reliable than the weapons his own country makes but hey they'll look cooler to all his friends back home.

      As far as Travis Haley goes what's up with the awkward left hand grip? Is it meant to block off his peripheral vision more or is it meant to make it easier for his left forearm to be shot off?

      obin
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    10. 01-03-2012 09:18 PM #285
      Just running it like he runs his AR's - in a way. He runs the straight-out overhand 3-gun style grip on his ARs. It doesn't really cut down any peripheral or expose your arm much more than usual. You can't really do it on an AK. It also is a bit less stressful on the wrist. I've never tried it because I run Ultimaks and it'd burn my hand up I think.

      PS: Obin, that Hungarian kit is actually produced by their military --- they had pics of a whole unit equipped with similar atrocities

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      01-03-2012 09:44 PM #286
      Quote Originally Posted by Elbows View Post
      Just running it like he runs his AR's - in a way. He runs the straight-out overhand 3-gun style grip on his ARs. It doesn't really cut down any peripheral or expose your arm much more than usual. You can't really do it on an AK. It also is a bit less stressful on the wrist. I've never tried it because I run Ultimaks and it'd burn my hand up I think.

      PS: Obin, that Hungarian kit is actually produced by their military --- they had pics of a whole unit equipped with similar atrocities
      I can't see it being less stressful on a wrist. If I am holding my left hand out in a fist I find it easier to have my hand vertically rather than horizontally. I mean have you ever seen a boxer punch someone with his thumbnail? It just doesn't make sense and I haven't ever seen any military or SWAT unit do it. But hey maybe he has some crazy bone structure in his wrist and finds it comfortable.

      As far as the Hungarian unit: they're part of NATO now right? It makes sense if they now have a stack of Aimpoints and HK grenade launchers.

      obin
      "We're society's crowbar. They hate us, they never want to acknowledge the dirty jobs they give us to do, but when the job is done they never throw us away - they just slip us back in the toolbox until they need us the next time. And there will always be a next time."-Jim Hooper. Beneath the Visiting Moon: Images of Combat in Southern Africa

    12. 01-04-2012 04:51 PM #287
      You can't do it properly on an AK. The Magpul AFG was developed to aid this grip --- a grip derived from the competition community. For up close shooting it seems to have a lot of followers (including soldiers, etc.). Some guys shoot normal, some shoot this grip (referred to simply as 3-Gun Grip in a lot of places).

      This is a good example, where it shows how a properly used AFG keeps your wrist from binding at any angle. Suffice to say you can't do it on his AK, but he is still locking out his left arm pretty well. All a matter of personal opinion - and Mr. Haley sure as **** knows how to shoot....so I won't say anything.



      This is how he grips his AR when running it up close.

    13. 01-22-2012 12:21 AM #288
      So after getting tons of questions from other folks on other forums about AK advice, I got tired of spending hours typing PM's to people...and put together this blog, which I'll be expanding - regarding making a quality modern AK rig.

      http://themfak.blogspot.com/

    14. 01-23-2012 10:17 AM #289
      did I just watch a video of someone shoving a Twinkie in a gun then trying to shoot it??



      that might be the dumbest thing I've ever seen on the internet. thats really saying something cause I've been on vortex for like 10 years..

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      01-23-2012 11:35 AM #290
      Quote Originally Posted by dj age one View Post
      did I just watch a video of someone shoving a Twinkie in a gun then trying to shoot it??



      that might be the dumbest thing I've ever seen on the internet. thats really saying something cause I've been on vortex for like 10 years..

      What?? You've never had a twinkie jam itself into the chamber while shooting desert rats??


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      01-23-2012 02:58 PM #291
      Quote Originally Posted by Elbows View Post

      Ok, I know this is the AK thread but that is beautiful!

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      Very informative Elbows, keep up the good work, following it to read up on what you write.
      Quote Originally Posted by Mr Miyagi View Post
      And, if the situation calls for it, you could break out some drumsticks and play the xylophone on her ribs
      Quote Originally Posted by TheDarkEnergist View Post
      God dammit Miyagi, go to school. Who the f**k plays the xylophone with drumsticks?
      You use mallets. Idiot.

    17. 01-23-2012 07:16 PM #292
      I can't get past the big black penis grip

      ooooh....ribbed

    18. 01-23-2012 07:18 PM #293
      Quote Originally Posted by dj age one View Post
      did I just watch a video of someone shoving a Twinkie in a gun then trying to shoot it??



      that might be the dumbest thing I've ever seen on the internet. thats really saying something cause I've been on vortex for like 10 years..
      The whole thing is based on the Magpul Dynamics dvd joke when Chris Costa was talking about dump pouches, and why you should only dump empty magazines there. At one point he says...



      So it made someone go and stuff a twinkie in their AR...which didn't work at all ....so then someone stuffed one in an AK...


    19. 01-23-2012 07:18 PM #294
      Quote Originally Posted by foxtrot762 View Post
      I can't get past the big black penis grip

      ooooh....ribbed
      Well, if it pushes hard enough, it'll get past you...(r anus).

    20. 01-23-2012 08:32 PM #295
      Quote Originally Posted by Elbows View Post
      The whole thing is based on the Magpul Dynamics dvd joke when Chris Costa was talking about dump pouches, and why you should only dump empty magazines there. At one point he says...

      So it made someone go and stuff a twinkie in their AR...which didn't work at all ....so then someone stuffed one in an AK...


      ahh, gotcha.. didn't realize there was a back story.

      just thought, some one was like "I'm bored eh, lets shove Twinkies in guns" seemed a bit dangerous to me. I do wonder what the barrels look like now.

    21. 01-24-2012 12:00 AM #296
      Since you asked..they're probably delicious.

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      01-28-2012 01:54 AM #297
      Elbows, (or anyone else) I'm curious what you think of this deal

      http://texasguntrader.com/index.php?a=2&b=178081

      it looks like a great one, just curious if, in your opinion, you see anything that would make you take pause. Otherwise I think I'm going to pick it up

    23. 01-28-2012 03:05 AM #298
      If you want a Saiga rifle and not an AK, it's probably reasonable (simply because of the magazines). You can find the rifles new for around $320-350 normally....so if you're planning on using it to convert over to an AK, then you're wasting the 12 magazines it comes with (10 rounds, and won't work with it once converted to a proper AK I believe).

      So, as a reasonable rifle with a bunch of magazines...it's okay. For a donor to be converted, I'd say it's a bit of a waste. Also a decent deal if you live in a place like California or some other silly state with silly laws.

      For $500 though, I'd be leaning toward an InterArms AK or something.

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      01-28-2012 09:37 AM #299
      what is the difference between the rifle and the AK? other than, of course, the magazines being 10 rounds

      (see? this is why I asked)

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      01-28-2012 10:02 AM #300
      Quote Originally Posted by Visheau View Post
      what is the difference between the rifle and the AK? other than, of course, the magazines being 10 rounds

      (see? this is why I asked)
      Well basically its the same action, the Saiga is brought in a sporting configuration which doesn't allow for it to take normal 30-round AK magazines without modification(Surefire makes some higher capacity magazines for the Saiga), as well as requiring modification to take normal AK furniture such as a pistol grip. If I'm forgetting anything someone can throw it in
      Quote Originally Posted by Mr Miyagi View Post
      And, if the situation calls for it, you could break out some drumsticks and play the xylophone on her ribs
      Quote Originally Posted by TheDarkEnergist View Post
      God dammit Miyagi, go to school. Who the f**k plays the xylophone with drumsticks?
      You use mallets. Idiot.

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