Any 09 people have/want a dpf delete?

[1972SS454]

Ive seen the downpipe and tune pricing, and am very excited. I am interested in how much a package deal for the full exhaust, from downpipe all the way back, and the tune would total up to. That way i can see how much saving up i need to do. Also, is there any concern that the stock intake would be a restriction after these mods? thanks.

[vw tdi guy]

DieselFreak-

The Aero muffler does two things: 1) It takes away some of the higher pitch exhaust noises and tones them down. 2) It allows user to meet local exhaust laws for places that say you need one regardless of if the car is quite or not. I will get some youtube videos up once things are done so you can hear it. It should be nice with the full downpipe and not too loud for most.

I put an aero xl on my alh with big turbo and 3 inch exhaust and its nice. Not loud at all doesnt sound much louder than a stock 1.8t.

[shortysclimbin]

Still waiting on the bends. It seams link everyone is on holiday. As soon as they get in I will be working on welding up some and getting the test car back together. Then I am in hopes we should have some sound clips for you guys and pricing info.

As far as air modifications, I do think a few things could be done to improve things a bit. Although I do not know if these will give any proven gains from them alone. More or less they would be needed for stage 3 and 4

[synthetic74]

Do you have plans to dyno the car with the turbo back exhaust and let us know what kind of gains you end up with?

[Mike TDI]

Very interested in this, keep up the good work!

[Subaruski1]

Do you have plans to dyno the car with the turbo back exhaust and let us know what kind of gains you end up with?

+1 for this info also

[PlaneJob]

great info. I'm interested to hear the MPG figures.

[dieselfreak86]

So shorty after all of this time i just noticed that these downpipes are for the 2009 models. would these also fit the 2010 CBEA? Also would the tuning be the same as the 2009s?

[4running]

I think the 2010 uses a two piece down pipe while the 2009 does not. Don't know for sure but I would think that they would be compatible.

[shortysclimbin]

Sorry for being distant guys!

The initial goal of getting these out before Christmas is looking like it is going to be a no go sadly because everything that could go wrong has. I just received the pipes back from the benders and they have a mistake in the bending process that they need to fix. Regardless I am moving forward and doing more work to try and get a good test jig. I may need 3-4 members interested in a "demo version" of the downpipe to just make sure that they fit all models. I would prefer members with mechanical ability who may be able to give me feedback. These pipes will have a few more welds in them than the final versions and may require a little more work to install. If interested Talk to me on facebook (this goes direct to my phone so I know about it).

Also on the topic of the downpipe styles here is a picture of an early 2009 and a 2010 downpipe. VW has four versions of these and I have only been able to find two to test fit. I am confident that my jig should work for all of the cars in these model years though! This actually was part of the reason it is taking so long, these downpipes are hard to get your hands on used!



On the Dyno info, I would love too, but that will be up to the owner to do once he gets his car back. I have taken a before run on my gtech meter to have a general baseline but a dyno would be really nice! I am expecting the downpipe and exhaust will add power range in the lower and upper end on these cars and maybe a slight 2-3whp gain on the downpipe and maybe another 5whp on the exhaust. This may not be that much of a numbers gain but it should increase the power under the curve and really open up more tuning options that do offer power (ie stage 3 tuning ). Toeball on Tdiclub or anyone with a stage 2 tune would be perfect to dyno a before and after just to be sure. As some of you may know these cars pull back fueling at high EGT temps, a stock downpipe will limit power on these engines because of the design; a full downpipe and exhaust system will completely remove that. If you stay out of the fueling after a tune and full exhaust upgrade I also would expect your fuel economy to increase over stock!

EDIT: All set on cars for test fits now unless you have a DSG!

[dieselfreak86]

Comment sent. Im glad your trying to make it useable for all of the years. mine is the top DPF. IMO i think we will see higher gains after the DPF delete and a tune then expected. Speaking of tune. were could we get it tuned after the DPF delete? So no error codes will come? Thanks SHORTY for the great info and hard work.

[WhiteTDI]

Comment sent. Im glad your trying to make it useable for all of the years. mine is the top DPF. IMO i think we will see higher gains after the DPF delete and a tune then expected. Speaking of tune. were could we get it tuned after the DPF delete? So no error codes will come? Thanks SHORTY for the great info and hard work.

looks like our new forum sponsor, Malone Tuning, already has tunes available with and w/o DPF

[dieselfreak86]

Cool thanks whiteTDI. Ill have to check them out i think i have contacted them before but was hesitant on their number gains. No offense Malonetuning.

[scrappy 2.0FSI]

I look forward to seeing how this turns out! more power down low and an exhaust note that I can hear is what I want!

[cmrnowlin]

I've got a 2010 golf TDI, I'd like to do a dpf, egr and cat delete. I'm in the San Diego area if anyone know a good shop.

[OttoSchultz]

I've got a 2010 golf TDI, I'd like to do a dpf, egr and cat delete. I'm in the San Diego area if anyone know a good shop.

Does CA do an OBD test for emissions readiness?

[PlaneJob]

Does CA do an OBD test for emissions readiness?

Don't they also do a "visual inspection"?

[RaddoDubbs]

The smog laws do go into effect this year. There aren't currently any sniffer tests, but they will be performing a full visual inspection. Checking for any black smoke at idle, and under load. Also doing a full federal emissions system check. So yes you will need to put the stock setup back in for smog time. I for one fully intend on getting the straight pipe kit and just swapping them out come smog check time!!

[shortysclimbin]

Gents,

Everyone will be responsible for there own cars on these. I am selling them as off road use only designed for race use on a sanctioned track. Because each track has their own laws are regulations along with states, countries etc. you are 100% responsible for making sure you meet or exceed these requirements.

On the tunes I am working closely with Malone tuning to get these products ready for the US / Canada market. Marks power numbers may be less than others out on the market, but his numbers are car tested and supported by many individuals both USA, CANADA, and EU. Once the downpipes are in it becomes a whole new playing field

And enough chit chat for me... back to working on getting exhaust piping in stock!

[dieselfreak86]

ALL i can say is SWEET!!!!!! I LOVE YOU SHORTY!!!! UMMMM in a manly, non sexual way.... Ill see my way to the door now...

[RaddoDubbs]

AHHHH I can't wait to get these! I'm a little sad as I just bought the Unitronic tune and now these are about to come out lol.. Hmmm Maybe UNI will make a tune for these once they see they are out on the market in the US finally!!!

Can't wait to have my car ready for "Race use only mode"!!! hehe

[dub-Nation]

I do.

[WhiteTDI]

will this downpipe be a complete bolt on? meaning, if i add flanges on to the DPF, can i realistically put it back in place should i need to get smog checked?

[cmrnowlin]

My home of record is AZ so i DGAF what Cali has to say.

[shortysclimbin]

The Downpipe will have options to be setup as just a oem replacement for those keeping the stock exhaust or for those looking to increase power all around and want to have a full 2.5" turbo back system options will be available.

And Good news!

We just finished up the downpipe and exhaust on the demo car. Mark is working on another tune option for us that will take advantage of all these new upgrades. Hopefully tomorrow I should have pictures and more info for everyone either here or on Facebook.

[WhiteTDI]

The Downpipe will have options to be setup as just a oem replacement for those keeping the stock exhaust or for those looking to increase power all around and want to have a full 2.5" turbo back system options will be available.

And Good news!

We just finished up the downpipe and exhaust on the demo car. Mark is working on another tune option for us that will take advantage of all these new upgrades. Hopefully tomorrow I should have pictures and more info for everyone either here or on Facebook.

i'm curious what the hp/tq/mpg difference will be between downpipe with and without 2.5" exhaust

[Rev Jerry]

Im curious of mpg gains too!

[shortysclimbin]

The owner has the car back now and has a scheduled trip that should lead us to more info on fuel economy. I at this point have left it up to him on dynoing the car or not. I am really happy with the sound of the exhaust after the modifications.



I have also uploaded a video showing the smoke output and sound from in the cabin (please note the car is inside so this is slightly amplified).

I will also be taking orders on downpipes now and Jetta Exhausts. Golf and A3 models are in the works for January to complete the package.

PS- Happy Holidays guys!

[alfi66]

hi shortysclimbin

i have a golf 5 1,9tdi DPF enginecode BLS.
do you make, or know of anyone that makes de-dpf downpipes for my car? i would have liked to find any for my car.
it would open up for more power and mpg, and also future turboupgrades.
im in norway, and here there is very little to choose from, and insane prices, so all my shopping is from the UK and US. im in contact with a company in the US now on a south bend stage 2 endurance clutchkit with flywheel, after recommandations here on the forum :-)

alfi

[Rev Jerry]

So basically, the car doesn't smoke at all even after you pulled all the cats and the dpf out? that is freaking AWESOME!

[shortysclimbin]

Alfi,

I may be able to help you out if your car is left hand drive like ours in the states. I will pm you my email address so you can take pictures and we can talk more.

Jerry,

This car has a high flow Cat on it and muffler to pass local laws. I have more videos online that show a small bit of smoke when starting, but that is also from a car that wasn't started in a while.

[Rev Jerry]

Ah gotcha. That's more or less what I would need for my local laws as well. Stupid CA emissions. So I take it the egr stuff is gone too?

[shortysclimbin]

nope EGR is still on this one. But I am working on finishing those parts as well. When you order your downpipe that will be an option.

[stibz]

Happy holidays!

Awesome work, I can't believe I just found this thread. With my '09 Jetta DSG well out of warranty...I'm very interested in a package deal (DPF delete + tune, with or without 2.5 exhaust).

[shortysclimbin]

Some new photos of our after 100mi test where just posted up on facebook. Owner is currently on a large road trip to work out any further bugs before full release. Mark is working on a revised tune to compensate for the higher flow exhaust work. We where getting a few indication codes that should be cleared once the new tune is in. As of right now the car is running around 50-70C cooler in EGT temps throughout the RPM band than the stock downpipe!