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    06-26-2011 02:24 PM #71
    so..............


    rekeyed the hatch to fit ignition key
    rekeyed driver door to fit ignition key
    made 3 new tumblers
    replaced driver door handle guts with new Hella
    reused old door handle from W Germany.

    removed passenger door and properly tumbled the lock
    aftermarket has 10 tumblers
    stock has 7 tumblers
    after market was only using 7/10 tumblers...
    two were also badly incorrect so made two new tumblers there

    how to make tumblers:
    buy 3/32 inch 3/4 inch brass
    cut 11mm
    drill 4 tiny holes for key
    open up holes and get thin file to fit
    using a grinder cut the tumbler to fit
    besure to use a triangle file on the spring retainer lip
    also make sure to cut and file at the center of the spring retainer lip
    when the key is in you want the spring slightly depressed
    that leaves room above the tumbler to grab
    with desired key in lock go to grinder and round off 3/4 brass to fit smooth
    using triangle indent gently 2,3 notches to each end

    if you want to use different springs you can find some lighter springs
    you only need to drill out the spring hole slightly to make them fit
    square hole becomes round hole!

    and i have 4 blank keys
    one is now filed down to match and fit all 4 locks
    ignition, doors, hatch.. you know


    replaced lately:

    trans release arm seal
    4speed TO bearing cover gasket

    needed them because they leaked often

    my TO bearing fell to pieces when i removed it
    so i shoved the orig solid metal one back in
    it still works, just uncertain of age on that or where it came from
    the one that fell apart got covered with dirt so i put it in a bag and save it for later


    next,

    rear transmission mount
    mine was soft and the rubber was peeling off the metal
    it was probally factory considering it still has the VW audi logos on it
    new one works great!

    front motor mount
    PITA!!!!!
    i removed the factory rubber mount
    it was badly worn out and came off real easily

    i really really hate how this bracket connects to the starter
    its location only allows very small adjustments and it doesnt seat very well

    this is the 3rd time i have removed it

    most people complain about needing 1/4-1/2 inch shim to add space to make theirs cup properly
    for me id rather cut off 1/4-1/2 to make mine fit even nearly close enough

    reason? at some point the front end of this car has had some damage
    ive stated it elsewhere and it becomes more and more obvious it was a collision
    they did a pretty fair job straightening it however
    atleast to the alignment and what not its nearly square

    so i replaced the front with techtonics heavy duty mount
    that wasnt too hard to press on with a tiny amount of grease
    getting it into the cup was easy with a little grease
    however pushing the rad support and the motor apart to fit it in was the 4 hours of cursing thats a PITA

    the rear trans mount is pushed all the way back
    and the side mounts are as they are
    i dont know if perhaps somehow i put the driver side trans mount in the wrong spot?
    is that even possible?
    is that slightly adjustable to allow more space?

    i swear it wasnt hard to put the front mount back on when i rebuilt the engine a year ago

    however when i replaced the starter it was nearly impossible to get it to slide into place
    bah...............


    i know you guys hate long dialogs and technical details

    however i didnt have a camera for anything

    i'll go steal a pic and give you something to enjoy

    my front mount cup looks much better than this one


    and this, this is the el stupido!



    thanks guys

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    09-07-2011 12:16 AM #72
    odometer broke again

    stuck at 599.9

    seems like the main gear broke in half again

    going to either buy a new set of gears
    or work to repair mine again using some tricks...

    i rely on my mileage for work and MPG rating!!

    30-32mpg averaged lately
    very rarely under 30mpg
    mostly 30.5-32mpg!! pretty good average

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    01-20-2012 12:34 AM #73
    yada yada yada....

    well at about 156,000 miles i did this rebuild stuff

    and im now rolling over 175850 miles

    no issues so far

    been using 10w40 mobil1 high mileage

    changing between 3000-5000 miles with new filters

    no metal in the oil or anything at all
    engine runs smoother than anything else on the car


    my primary problem is the resonant vibration and rotation for the front springs to the SHOT wheel balance

    either I need new front springs
    need to finally replace the rear shocks...
    or need to have the wheels dynamically rebalanced

    electrical stuff....nah, not much to comment
    minor fixes, repairs, changes...

    fuel?
    NO RUST
    i change my filter often enough and never have seen any rust in the filter


    luckily im one of those spreadsheet and receipt people
    so i have documents of everything on one huge fancy spreadsheet
    and two huge folders full of receipts.....


    everyone enjoy

    sorry my photo host (myspace) isnt letting you share photos anymore

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    02-14-2012 06:54 AM #74
    going to be getting some neuspeed braces thanks to our vortex sellers!

    upper and lower neuspeed braces

    hope to test them out one at a time

    Lower first on the Arms
    need new napa bolts, longer ones

    drive, test,
    add upper to shock mounts

    drive, test.


    fun fun!
    thanks a lot



    also i have a '78 Smith mercedes?? UK gauge cluster (cheap JY part)
    im going to add the VBATT somewhere on the center console
    probally above the ashtray
    the other gauges...dunno what to do with yet

    that little tray above the glovebox is getting redone in galvanized or aluminum to house the vbatt gauge
    im leaning on the gauge on the left and the empty tray on the right
    pretty simple job, just need the time to dedicate to fab & wire

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    02-16-2012 10:04 AM #75
    For those of you who dont have faith in the 1.7l here is my 81 rabbit S CIS. raceland header and 2.25" exhuast from header back. car runs great cam coming soon


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLNK4luuvXI

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    02-24-2012 11:28 PM #76
    got my rotors on, much smoother stopping

    finally got the SAE 10.9
    M12x1.5 100mm bolts in

    also decided to put the 23mm long 91 cabriolet lugs onto the le castellets
    i think the difference 20mm vs 23mm might be because the 91 cabriolet had vented rotors
    im not sure if the thickness of the steel-a rim vs the le castellet was why the used longer lugs








    added lower brace
    drove around, minor improvement
    less roll in hard corner, best i could find during rush hour traffic..grr

    added upper bracer
    definately better with both, almost no front roll

    although my rear struts are nearly totally shot... starting to sag back there

    rotated tires after all that
    adjusted camber slightly to be more 0degrees
    checked the toe, both front to rear is 55inches

    all good for now

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    03-09-2012 12:02 AM #77
    replacement GP cleaned, inspected, painted
    replacing 3 seals next.
    already replaced release arm seal, checked TO bearing, release finger for cracks






    cleaning transmissions which are 100% covered in oil and dirt is not fun
    but so rewarding when you get it down to that beautiful bare magnesium

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    04-17-2012 05:02 AM #78
    so today while driving.....
    my batt light came on and wouldnt go off
    i of course was annoyed and freaked
    i checked all the wires while i could
    nothing loose

    drove to the closest autozone and had them test the batt/alt (like noobs relying on a device)
    their magnificent gigantic probe basically said the "volt reg fail"
    of course it was only putting out 12.17v
    battery still had 12.51v on it

    they had a voltage regulator in stock luckily
    swapped it out quickly and was charging 14V like madness

    the outer brush on mine was worn out but the inner one was still good
    so the AC that was ...really wasnt

    i dont really like the looks or quality of this VoltReg but...it will do until my lifetime warranty decides it wasnt a good piece of equipment


    i know i know.....solder on some new brushes for $2.......
    i used to carry soldering gun and solder on me
    but now i leave it

    and i know i know.........
    drag around my DMM everywhere i go......
    but i dont own one, i use work's $300 fluke when doing most of my electronics

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    05-21-2012 01:39 AM #79
    hmmm.......soo...what did i do recently?

    errr?.........

    i bought a bosch fuel pump, hopfully one day i'll get around to putting it on

    i replaced the stock factory hose from tank to pump recently (thanks GAP)
    mine was cracking and old...
    so fuel pump replacement is next most definately

    just gotta find time and somewhere to do this crap at...ugh

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    07-06-2012 03:15 PM #80
    sooo... while driving early morning and comming to a yellow light
    my brakes dropped out and never returned

    i of course pulled over and checked for leaks or loss of fluid in the reservoir
    nada

    a few years ago i lost a rear wheel cylinder and my brakes worked 70% fine but leaked about 1L of fluid every week

    so this time i suspected my brake booster had crapped on the power assisted vacuumed brakes

    not certain as yet but i already took it all apart and lying on the floor
    ordered new master cylinder and brake booster
    threw in two new front brake hoses with clips while im there

    i limped it home as only two of the wheels were braking
    front right and rear left
    pedal to the floor and pressure would cause the front to lock
    so...slow and careful slowing


    i have bled my brakes twice before, so the fluid was relatively clean
    now im going to have some real clear fluid
    muahhahaaa......

    atleast i can drive the other vehicle meanwhile
    and it doesnt have power brakes



    any recommendations on removing the fluid reservoir safely?
    that thing is REALLY in there
    and its been in there for 30 years without ever comming out
    both my master cylinder and brake booster are factory....and rusty

    oh, also there is supposed to be an o-ring between the master and the booster
    i had only orangish red rust....no o-ring

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    07-13-2012 09:47 PM #81
    new master cylinder
    new power brake booster (vacuum assist)
    new front caliper brake hoses

    runs good

    i am so glad there are remanufactured (core) parts for these cars

    hopefully these last another 30 years (yea right)

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    07-30-2012 10:03 PM #82
    new BRASS Mercedes 190E injectors
    they work fine
    the (factory) old ones also worked really well

    insert aerosal can of B12 with tube and test, all performed equally


    *New replacement exhaust, one leak... need to remove it and go over the weld again
    Walker parts, includes diesel resonator

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    09-16-2012 04:55 PM #83
    i had some spare parts from a junkyard 91, 5 speed
    decided finally to put them to use

    made first a weighted shift rod
    i found a huge stick of metal in the road, was going to scrap it
    decided to cut it and weld it onto the rod
    plenty heavy

    then the selector lever for the short shift









    there is also my injector puller
    the timing tensioner piece needs new studs...


    WHY DID I NOT DO THIS YEARS AGO!
    so much better with a short shift

    also no alignment needed, bolted straight in and hit every gear perfect

    thanks VWVORTEX for the awesome ideas!

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    09-23-2012 01:55 AM #84
    new seat upholstery
    works...cheap

    working on passenger seat next


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    10-07-2012 10:18 PM #85
    finally decided i could spend a few hours replacing the lower steering bearing column

    i also had a new ignition switch

    and a new plastic upper bearing for the ignition housing

    the column had a stock metal upper bearing so decided to reuse it
    better than plastic for sure!!!


    factory bend in this strap, it has press marks on it to bend it...didnt mess with it


    cheap meyle crap, it doesnt even look lubricated with grease
    also it has an extra pin, not sure what it does but my connector has an empty slot for it




    threaded rod to push the bearing up into the column

    ran into a problem, i went slowly and backed off several times
    it finally went all the way in with no damage...better than it was atleast

    when it was all put back together it was much better and no slack in the wheel
    grab at 3&9 no 1mm slop
    grab 12&6 and no slop
    there wasnt much play in the wheel to begin with

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    10-08-2012 01:47 AM #87
    i love rebuilds like this

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    10-08-2012 08:53 PM #88
    I'm pretty sure my steering column bearing has deteriorated which is why it's all crunchy haha. Need to do this also

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    10-09-2012 12:03 AM #89
    so......been hearing a minor noise lately, wasnt much, i figured it was from the rear

    it got a bit louder today and concerned me because it occurred during bumps
    i narrowed it down to the front suspension

    looked under the car a few times (at work) and thought my front strut bolt was loose
    it wasnt, the washer made it appear to be unseated

    turned out, after 18 months and 38,000 miles the front bump stops decided to desintegrate............................

    these were supposed to have been the HEAVYDUTY later style

    got this as a kit


    so i removed my wheel to see what I could figure out
    noticed the dust cap was cratered over the strut housing nut..............
    passenger side




    driver side



    this piece was laying down inside my coil spring




    now......i know dallas has some shatty pot holes and terrible roads
    but really?
    18 months? 38000 miles???????

    im just going to assume this is very common
    and my struts are just hammering the crap out of the bump stops


    WTF do I do guys? not having dust caps going to ruin my struts?
    blow them out?
    Warranty??

    im going to have to cut the dust cap off and pull the rubber that isnt any good out


    Previous installation pictures::

    factory dust caps and factory strut inserts


    replacement parts


    cleen housings with paint


    installed and finished

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    10-09-2012 12:31 AM #90
    oh...also more fun news

    when i changed my timing belt last weekend (45,000 miles) i noticed my passenger mount is broken

    yep.....

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    10-12-2012 07:20 PM #91
    i have the poly adjustable bump stops in my car with out any issues. i like them. i found the oem stops kinda just suck. and i wouldnt run with out any dust caps. i mean i know i might sound dumb but i like them in there protecting what ever little bit they do.

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    10-12-2012 08:26 PM #92
    i'm looking at replacing my passenger side mount this weekend as well on the 1.7. should be fun. a quick question (don't mind if you PM me the answer), which bushings did you use when installing the short shifter?

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    10-12-2012 11:19 PM #93
    Quote Originally Posted by nodeisel4me View Post
    i'm looking at replacing my passenger side mount this weekend as well on the 1.7. should be fun. a quick question (don't mind if you PM me the answer), which bushings did you use when installing the short shifter?

    stock bushings since it was a stock piece
    no pics of the bushings but i did install them

    i think busdepot was where i got my baggies of shift linkages

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    10-14-2012 12:25 AM #94
    got my scirocco shifter
    woot woot.....thanks bro

    aaaaand.... made my 8-ball shift knob (its M12x1.50)
    because racecar






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    10-14-2012 02:22 AM #95
    Cool! dig the 8 ball

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    10-23-2012 02:05 AM #96
    finally!
    i have owned this for 3 years
    these are 30 year old rear shocks!

    decided to replace them with gabriel ultras

    new:
    rear shocks
    rear springs
    shock mounts
    shock BOLTS (thanks briano- teflon taped & antisiezed prior to installing)
    PB BLASTERED for 5 days solid, had to cut one bolt out using my cutting wheel

    rear axle beam bushings
    new nuts on rear beam studs
    PB BLASTERED everything for 5 days solid prior to removal, WENT SLOW...NO BREAKS!!

    new soft brake lines @ beam
    two new e-brake cables

    "new" cis fuel accumulator
    brand new bosch fuel pump & check valve
    **new pumps are smaller than the old pumps..it comes with a plastic cage wrapped on it

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    12-30-2012 12:22 PM #97
    finally cleaned my old steelies
    they are ready to be hammered straight
    each one has atleast one tiny ding on the edge...

    then painted somehow..?






    next up:
    replaced my passenger motor mount
    it has been like this for 1-2 years now...and apparently getting worse
    only one of the 4 corners was still intact on the rubber mount
    easier than i thought it would be
    BUT....needed to buy a second set of Allen wrenches for the 6mm cut-off trick





    ...not too bad for 30 years of abuse

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    01-14-2013 04:07 PM #98
    old battery ground cables



    black ones are 81, unprotected copper one is 78
    replaced with 24inch 4 gauge and 19 inch 6 gauge


    i put 40,000 miles on my 91 EA wheels with Tires
    time to refurbish the old stock steelies
    first up clean the gunk off them
    then gently sand the rust down
    clean the inside of the sealing edges for new shoes

    then hammer and vice grip the bent parts straight
    nearly straight... best i could
    sand down any sharp edges

    now time for paint
    primer front and back (not inner-tube area)
    inside i ran out of primer, didnt really need it inside the tire

    debated for about 5 minutes at the store
    black..or...silver...or what
    i went metallic silver with rustoleum
    worked out great
    shiny as hell almost like new
    im sure it will fade after a year or so and look more like stock gray metallic






    i removed my rear wheel and released the E-brake
    mounted up each wheel and sanded them lightly with 1000 grit
    then a second coat all around





    tires are just ordinary 155/80-R13
    but i guess if you need to know they are Kumho Solus KR21

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    01-14-2013 07:14 PM #99
    love this thread.

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    01-14-2013 08:56 PM #100
    Lookin great man!! Our builds are so similar Great minds think alike
    Eastep: making the possible, impossible since:1981

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    01-19-2013 08:31 PM #101
    im going to make copies of these metal things out of metal clothes hangers
    and find some plastic mesh to put in there




    whenever the car was resprayed (outside only) the plastic was left in...it has nice colors on it...

    better pics next time with new copies

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    01-26-2013 10:44 PM #102
    oil change prompted installing the new rubber gasket & studs
    PITA to double nut everything to remove/install
    got it done with loctite
    that should stop the leaking out of the passenger corner with that cork gasket


    got my valve measurement done finally, everything is .05-.1mm above out of spec


    also pics of my long long ago horn relocation



    nicely hidden out of the way under the new german washer bottle (thanks punch!!!)



    most of you guys have parts stashed around the house/garage
    all of mine in various stages of use, new, boxed, etc....


    yeah its a mess and i need to throw things away

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    02-09-2013 12:37 AM #103
    going to sneak this photo in here

    because mojave.






    decided to replace my down pipe

    had to clean a lot of spatter off of it before using it but not a big deal
    oddly the pipes seem a little smaller and that outlet port is kinda funky....legit welds though

    will have pics of my factory one next time, phone keeps dying
    it is definately trash, i could probally break it in half its so brittle and rusty


    relaying headlights tomarrow and installing H4 autopals

    hmm....
    i por15'd my battery tray, it was in sad sad sad...sad shape but should be good for now
    yes i used the kit with marine clean and metal ready


    i bought some reman calipers
    i hate when you buy two parts but...two "similar" parts come in
    probally going to post up a trade if anyone has a set

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    02-09-2013 02:11 AM #104
    hey great write up rabbit! love the coloured parts! very unique

    I need to replace my engine mounts , car rattles so damn much on solid mounts...

    also need to install my Rocco shifter.

    thanks for the inspiration!

    cheers

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    02-09-2013 11:13 PM #105
    ok first up....stock factory 1981 down pipe...sad shape



    por15'd battery tray:


    picture of fusible links...they do exist


    now for the goodies
    wiring excitement!

    the start: find the yellow and white wire...they are the ONLY yellow/white wire on this harness
    (early fuseboxes have 4 fuses and 4 wires including yellow/black and white/black)
    cut then re-wrap with electrical tape


    build part of your relays


    i bought new H4 sockets and took out the spade connectors to wire the ends
    how? carefully pry out the old wire then recrimp


    electrical tape 95% of the way


    wire loom for added protection its 1/4 inch, barely fits on it


    here goes: solder wires to the relay..no turning back now!


    literally JUST BARELY FITS -- it has a top cap too
    i should have made the fuse to pin 30 wires shorter.


    and finally the crucial part battery wires
    2 red for each relay
    3 ground, one for each headlamp and one for the signal from the switch 85/86



    out with the old junk sealed beam halogens
    in with the new autopal H4






    beautiful wiring job, lots of fun
    total time: 4.5 hours




    40 amp relays, overkill
    30 amp fuses
    14 gauge yellow/white/brown for headlights
    12 gauge red, 12 gauge ground for the switch signal 2to1

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