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      05-01-2010 02:37 PM #1
      Just wondering. Does having a kid pretty much pigeonhole you into a vehicle like a wagon, minvan, or a crossover?
      It seems as though having something with a large cargo area would definitely be ideal, but do any of you folks out there make do with something like a midsize sedan (Camry, Accord, Malibu, etc.)?
      If so, how does your trunk fare on trips with two adults + a small infant/child?
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      05-01-2010 02:41 PM #2
      I grew up in VWs as a kid so small cars a do able. My parents currently have a Malibu with 2 kids and have no problems. I think people over react and think bigger is better or safer. But most do not NEED an SUV, crossover, minivan, wagon. It comes down to what they want to see themselves in and how they want to been seen by their peers.

    3. 05-01-2010 02:47 PM #3
      Time to congratulate you & the Mrs, Brandon?

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      05-01-2010 02:47 PM #4
      If you have a few kids then I could see the need for something like a minivan, but 1 kid does not mean you need to buy one. There is more then enough space in a sedan if you have a kid. When I was little my parents had an A6 (and before that a late 80s accord) and both were fine for both my parents, my brother, and I when we went on camping trips and other driving adventures. I really think people overreact when they have a kid and think they NEED all the extra space.
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      05-01-2010 02:50 PM #5
      Yes.
      If you do not immediately buy a crossover/minivan/wagon (with DVD entertainment center) for your one child, then you are a terrible parent.
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      05-01-2010 02:50 PM #6
      When I grew up we we're a family of 5. We had a 85 NA Jetta Diesel, 84 Audi 5000, 79 seville, 67 acadian wagon, amongst that were all relatively small.

    7. 05-01-2010 02:52 PM #7
      yes....yes it does

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      05-01-2010 02:53 PM #8
      For half of my childhood my parents drove my brother and I around in a Civic...
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      05-01-2010 02:55 PM #9
      Quote, originally posted by JMTombstone »
      If you have a few kids then I could see the need for something like a minivan, but 1 kid does not mean you need to buy one. There is more then enough space in a sedan if you have a kid. When I was little my parents had an A6 (and before that a late 80s accord) and both were fine for both my parents, my brother, and I when we went on camping trips and other driving adventures. I really think people overreact when they have a kid and think they NEED all the extra space.

      See, that's what I was thinking. My parents had midsize sedans when I was a kid. It wasn't until I was in high school that my dad bought a Ford Explorer.
      I've been looking into getting a wagon, but there are SOOOO many options out there in the midsize sedan market.
      I've always thought that minivans were a bit overkill, especially for families with just one kid, but hey what do I know? Friends of ours just bought a Toyota Sienna, and their first kid is due in 4 weeks. Just seems like a lot of vehicle for just one kid
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      05-01-2010 02:57 PM #10
      Quote, originally posted by mAdD INDIAN »
      Time to congratulate you & the Mrs, Brandon?

      Haha, we plan on "trying" for a kid around this time next year. But my car will be paid for this November and I'm thinking of new cars to replace my 3s. Since I plan on keeping the car for at least five years, I want something that'll be able to haul me, the wife, and a kid
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    11. 05-01-2010 02:59 PM #11
      Quote, originally posted by IHateSpeedBumps »
      It comes down to what they want to see themselves in and how they want to been seen by their peers.

      your family's pretty insecure to consider what others think of you over whats good for you.
      Judging by th OP's photo, its a great inconvenience to "search" for anything when you're traveling like a packrat, esp when you have infants who don't know the concept of "waiting." I want room for a stroller, buggy, blankets, diapers, food, etc w/o having to move anything to get at it. With a car, you can mount the seat on one of 2 or 3 places in the back seat & you can carry only 2 kids @ a time ( can't travel with another couple with a kid. With 3 row of seats, 2 familes with infants can travel together, not to mention the luggage that wouldn't fit in a car with 2 kids & 2 adults & 2 strollers. Regarding safety, I rarely see vans or SUV's after an accident where the intrusion went into the middle seat areas of the 2nd or 3rd row seats. I see many impacts to sedans & wagons in the rear door/ quarter panel areas with severe intrusions into the rear seat areas.
      It really was a no brainer for me to get a minivan: lower floor & more usable space & car like handling versus an SUV. Twice the seats & cargo space with very similar handlling and efficiency of a midsize sedan with similar power.
      for commuting w/o the infant, we have a MINI (gets 40mpgs on the fwy).

      To the OP: our trunk looked like that even when we had an X3. With the minivan, no need to worry about what to take, how to cram everything in. For longer trips, reclining middle seats (mommy can sleep next to the baby on the trip so daddy can sleep @ the destination!!) Once again, the best thing is: you can travel with another couple & infant. Another thing, the Ody gets better hwy mileage than the X3.
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      05-01-2010 03:01 PM #12
      Quote, originally posted by UNBANNED_GERBIL »
      When I grew up we we're a family of 5. We had a 85 NA Jetta Diesel, 84 Audi 5000, 79 seville, 67 acadian wagon, amongst that were all relatively small.

      Our family of four had (list until I was 18):
      -A mid 60s two door white Pontiac Tempest.
      -A white and then later a yellow Pinto.
      -A yellow/orange Mercury Comet sedan.
      -A brown 73 Mercury Montego sedan.
      -A tan with brown top 79 Chrysler Lebaron sedan.
      -A tan 78 Oldsmobile 98 sedan.
      -A tan 82 Mazda GLC sedan (tight fit for family of four with 3 tall males).
      I think the Pintos and the GLC were the only manuals.
      The old fullsize domestic sedans had PLENTY of room for five or six in a pinch due to the wide front/rear bench seats. Kids today are sooooo spoiled.
      I remember one of the biggest issues when travelling was trying to figure out what I could take in my small luggage (to fit everything in trunk- as the OP mentions). Having a limited amount of cargo space just means everybody has to make choices on what they bring. You can't just bring everything.


      Modified by BRealistic at 3:06 PM 5/1/2010
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      05-01-2010 03:05 PM #13
      Only child, but we had a Tempo, and I survived. It's all just keeping up with the neighbors for l33t status.

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      05-01-2010 03:30 PM #14
      From '85 to the early '00s my parents' vehicles consisted of:
      1979 Olds Starfire ('79 to '90)
      1982 Dodge Aries wagon ('85 to '92)
      1981 Cadillac Coupe DeVille ('90-'94)
      1989 Nissan Stanza ('92 to '02)
      1989 Mazda 323 ('94-'03-ish)
      One wagon and one huge full-size, but for the majority of the '90s (92-on) the Stanza was the main family car, and from '94 to 2002 or so, the two small Japanese sedans were the only cars in the fleet, and they were more than enough for a family of 4, imo.


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      05-01-2010 03:31 PM #15
      Quote, originally posted by snb3 »
      your family's pretty insecure to consider what others think of you over whats good for you.

      Not my family, just an observation of the people around here and what they drive. Its all about image now.

    16. 05-01-2010 03:36 PM #16
      Quote, originally posted by IHateSpeedBumps »
      Not my family, just an observation of the people around here and what they drive. Its all about image now.

      true , i guess.

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      05-01-2010 03:38 PM #17
      Quote, originally posted by IHateSpeedBumps »
      Not my family, just an observation of the people around here and what they drive. Its all about image now.

      Yep.
      There was a time when minivans were very trendy (early/mid 90s).
      But they were also very practical.
      Then we had the SUV craze (replacing minivans as family haulers).
      “Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.”

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      05-01-2010 03:40 PM #18
      One kid, NO.
      Two kids? Yeah, I went with a wagon. But his car has always been a Golf or equivalent. And the wagon is hopped up, so it might not actually count.
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      05-01-2010 03:42 PM #19
      It depends. We did fine with the Passat sedan for 10 years. Stick a roof box on it, and we could travel for weeks around the country with 2 small kids plus an 18-pound dog. You just have to think about what junk you're going to bring along, and map out how you pack.
      However, now that we're in the camp/carpool/practice rotation, we routinely carry around 4 extra people, so an Odyssey it is.
      Our friends, who have 2 tweens, get by fine with a 4-door sedan. Even when they go camping or on vacation, everything magically fits. Again, just think about what you're going to bring.

    20. 05-01-2010 03:55 PM #20
      Not necessarily. The younger they are though, the more crap you have to carry around. That said, we rented a Kia Spectra two Christmases ago when my son was 2 months old, and fit all our crap (including a stroller, pack-and-play and presents) into the thing.
      We've now got a 2010 Subaru Forester, but we could easily get by with a sedan and a roof cargo box for trips longer than a week. Heck, with a roof rack, we could road-trip in the 911 at this point:

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      05-01-2010 04:06 PM #21
      The stroller thing.....
      We got one of those Graco all-in-one deals at first. About two months in, we gave it to our son's nana (private day care lady). That thing was sooooooo HUGE and did so little... We "upgraded" to a Combi SavvyZ (the eurotrash stroller of 1998) which took up about 1/10th the room and did everything we needed. It did not directly mount up the basket seat, but that kind of sat in the stroller just fine. Once we got rid of Paul Bunyan's stroller and went for the small one, we could get two kids, two parents, and a week's worth of crap into a 5dr Golf! That included the pack'n'play.
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      05-01-2010 04:15 PM #22
      It depends how many overnights you'll be doing to visit friends/grandparents. This is when I have trouble fitting the baby junk in my 3 or the wife's xB.
      Also my parents had three kids and tiny cars. I remember being very uncomfortable.

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      05-01-2010 04:16 PM #23
      Quote, originally posted by VAB5 »
      It depends. We did fine with the Passat sedan for 10 years. Stick a roof box on it, and we could travel for weeks around the country with 2 small kids plus an 18-pound dog. You just have to think about what junk you're going to bring along, and map out how you pack.
      However, now that we're in the camp/carpool/practice rotation, we routinely carry around 4 extra people, so an Odyssey it is.
      Our friends, who have 2 tweens, get by fine with a 4-door sedan. Even when they go camping or on vacation, everything magically fits. Again, just think about what you're going to bring.

      Hmmm, I'm liking this sedan + roofbox idea for long trips/vacations
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      05-01-2010 04:21 PM #24
      When I was a kid, my parents had a Mazda GLC sedan. We drove that all over the place with my two brothers. It was tight but not bad.
      Now my girlfriend and I have a wagon and hatch, but no kids (just a dog). Seems like overkill in comparison.

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      05-01-2010 04:22 PM #25
      Quote, originally posted by Mazda 3s »
      Hmmm, I'm liking this sedan + roofbox idea for long trips/vacations


      But you need a vehicle with roof supports... and then access to the roof top unit is.. difficult.
      What about just getting a small trailer when you need extra cargo room?
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