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    1. Member Scotty_2.0's Avatar
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      05-07-2010 06:22 PM #1
      Well it's taken close to a year of hunting, ordering and collecting, but it's all here now! I know, I know, there's been lots of 2.9 build threads, but whatever....

      Next step, machine shop

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      Top End:
      TT 268 cams
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      TT oversized valve seats.
      Autotech SS exhaust studs
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      Wiseco 82.5mm forged pistons (10.5:1 comp)
      ARP main stud kit
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      ALL gaskets/o-rings
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      Nearly all new bolts for block and head

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      05-08-2010 11:10 AM #4
      Thats a big parts collection. Good luck with the build, what software or tuning do you plan on running?

      Also, when you fit the transmission make sure that the pressure plates outer rivets dont hit the bellhousing. When I did mine I didn't find out until I started the motor

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      05-08-2010 11:11 AM #5
      feels good dont it ?so youll pretty much be running n/a? with 11: comp/ratio? or.....? ever since i started my 2.9 build i realized alot of people have been going in and have been boring out their blocks nice! good luck with your build scotty let me know how it goes youll be hearing from my build soon i have to update the thread n get it up here

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      05-08-2010 02:42 PM #6
      feels good dont it?
      Yes it does... the only I'm uncertain of at this point is what software to run. I sent off an email to TT yesterday with all the datails, but I hear alot of good things about C2's products also. Any input is welcome, thanks. And btw this will all be packed into my mk2 golf (OBDI electronics - 95 corrado stuff).
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      05-08-2010 06:19 PM #7
      Well it's taken close to a year of hunting, ordering and collecting, but it's all here now! I know, I know, there's been lots of 2.9 build threads, but whatever....

      Next step, machine shop
      awesome... GL and please make many pic enriched updates

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      05-08-2010 09:06 PM #8
      should be a good build up, good luck man.

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      05-09-2010 03:26 AM #9
      that is an impressive pile of WIN sir.

      Nice piston choice as well :thumb
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      Quote Originally Posted by pileofredparts View Post
      Do you guys remember the time that Ryan kid started mixing and matching rods and end caps and then his motor wouldnt turn over? I do

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      05-09-2010 01:54 PM #10
      Quote Originally Posted by adamea1635 View Post
      awesome... GL and please make many pic enriched updates
      Thought some info/pics as to the reason for the rebuild may be appreciated. Piston rings were worn to the point of burning lots of oil and top compression ring on cylinder 5 was actually broken in half! The cam lobes wer also worn and a couple were pitted. And lastly, I found small pit marks as if something had hit the top of cylinder 3's piston.






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      05-09-2010 05:37 PM #11
      holy $hit!!! arent thoses bags from sealership i bet it costed u soo much!!!!

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      05-09-2010 07:38 PM #12
      Quote Originally Posted by dogyouare View Post
      holy $hit!!! arent thoses bags from sealership i bet it costed u soo much!!!!
      Yes you are correct sir. I work at a BMW dealership but my company owns the VW down the street so it didn't cost me a ton, but yes not cheap. I do admit to getting a little anal when it came to what hardware needed replacement. Looking back I pretty much bought new bolts for anything that mounted to the longblock... ok, ok alot anal...

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      05-10-2010 09:47 AM #13
      lol your lucky u work for them. and i do get stingy on what bolt/hardware i use also.

    14. 05-12-2010 05:11 AM #14
      Quote Originally Posted by vortexpert. View Post
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      05-12-2010 12:32 PM #15
      incredible i do envy u sir.
      just started my mk2 1.8t build thread, check it out :http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthrea...t-build-thread

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      05-13-2010 06:53 PM #16
      Well it feels good, dropped off the head, block and necessary parts at the machine shop today. Said it should be ready for me in 2-3 weeks....

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      05-13-2010 07:30 PM #17
      wow! you have allot of work ahead

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      Now order Estyles Headers and a Copy of Leebro's Medium length Intake Manfild

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      05-13-2010 09:30 PM #19
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      Well it feels good, dropped off the head, block and necessary parts at the machine shop today. Said it should be ready for me in 2-3 weeks....
      Can you do me a huge favor?
      Can you tell me what side the O2 sensor bung is located on your TT downpipe? Mine is facing the driver's side and it makes for a pretty good stretch of the wiring harness...not really an issue but stock was facing the passenger's side.
      Thanks!

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      05-13-2010 09:45 PM #20
      Quote Originally Posted by thecreeper View Post
      Can you do me a huge favor?
      Can you tell me what side the O2 sensor bung is located on your TT downpipe? Mine is facing the driver's side and it makes for a pretty good stretch of the wiring harness...not really an issue but stock was facing the passenger's side.
      Thanks!
      Yeah it's pointing straight out towards the driver's side. Hope it's not an issue like you say it may be.... ohwell sure it'll work out.

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      05-13-2010 11:37 PM #21
      Quote Originally Posted by Scotty_2.0 View Post
      Yeah it's pointing straight out towards the driver's side. Hope it's not an issue like you say it may be.... ohwell sure it'll work out.
      You do need to reroute the wiring, it's a bit tight. It scared me a little because it needs to travel over the DP this way to plug in, and I kept thinking the heat would destroy the wiring. I ended up wrapping the exposed wires with thermal tape and tucked it up under that metal heat shield covering the brake line. So far so good...

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      05-14-2010 01:03 AM #22
      Contact C2.
      They will get you squared away software wise.
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      05-20-2010 02:54 PM #23
      Stopped by the machine shop today. Snapped a couple pics of the head in the early stages. Valve seats in. Quite suprised to find out that the valve seats actually touch each other in the middle... Was also suprised to find out that the mahcinist didn't like the TT ovesided valve seats I provided and instead used his own. Said he prefers the valve seat to be slightly bigger than the valve face, and the TT ones were almost exactly the same as the valve....

      Anyhow, here's the progress thus far...




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      05-20-2010 03:37 PM #24
      looking good. Ill be a few months behind you on the headwork, so I can take notes from you now!
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      Quote Originally Posted by pileofredparts View Post
      Do you guys remember the time that Ryan kid started mixing and matching rods and end caps and then his motor wouldnt turn over? I do

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      05-27-2010 06:43 PM #26
      Stopped by Mississauga Engines today and visited my VR. Valve guide sand seats in cut, bowl work started, block bored and honed, and lower intake ported completely! Can't believe the difference in the lower intake after porting... Hopefully thins should be ready to come home by next week. Killing me driving around town today behind my buddies recent Corrado VR6 purchase in my mk5 rabbit Carbonio sounds nice on the 2.5, but it's no VR6. Damn it I miss my VR!






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      05-28-2010 06:01 AM #27
      Quote Originally Posted by Scotty_2.0 View Post
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      Wazzup with those traces between the water jacket holes between cyls 4, 6 and either side of 5? Is that head gasket fail, or is coolant supposed to circulate there?

      I'm still unclear about the BVH bit. I thought that a BVH is some european part you can buy, but you're building one and porting the inlet and outlet paths. Will they be polished too via the extruded media method? (forcing abrasive putty thru) Will the head be flowbench tested? Are you following an established head buildup that I could read somewhere so also do here in yurrup? What about just finding a 2.9 and rebuilding its head - would that gain gas flow over our 2.8 heads?

      Sorry for all the questions, I bet you're real busy...
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      05-28-2010 09:10 AM #28
      Quote Originally Posted by renohuskerdu View Post
      Wazzup with those traces between the water jacket holes between cyls 4, 6 and either side of 5? Is that head gasket fail, or is coolant supposed to circulate there?

      I'm still unclear about the BVH bit. I thought that a BVH is some european part you can buy, but you're building one and porting the inlet and outlet paths. Will they be polished too via the extruded media method? (forcing abrasive putty thru) Will the head be flowbench tested? Are you following an established head buildup that I could read somewhere so also do here in yurrup? What about just finding a 2.9 and rebuilding its head - would that gain gas flow over our 2.8 heads?

      Sorry for all the questions, I bet you're real busy...
      Always got time for questions....

      If you look at the pic of the block, you'll see matching oval shaped holes that explain the coolant stains in question. However, the stains are made worse by the fact that this was an early fibre style HG and most likely the coolant was not changed frequently enough causing it to become acidic. The other head that I am using was in similar situation and will need to be welded before decking to repair it.

      The BVH is simply Big Valve Head. I am installing +2mm intake (41mm) and exhaust (36mm) valves and porting will be done with a grinder (I think at least - trusting machine shop for that work). The shop has a flow bench which I believe will be used to check the effectivness of the work. As far as I know, the 2.8 and 2.9 heads are the same... not sure though. Anyhow, I'm boring my 2.8 block and installing 82.5mm forged pistons in place of the stock 81mm cast units which technically makes it a "true" 2.9L engine (2.885L actually).

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      05-28-2010 10:29 AM #29
      Scotty, I wouldnt use my original head after many of the water jackets had the same deterioration due to a PO using the Green Coolant. Yours is nowhere near the condition mine was for sure, If it can be welded and planed true, go for it.

      I would also reaffirm that he small gap between the new valve seats he has installed will be addressed. I believe this is why the ones TT sell may have been different in size.

      Just want to look out for you man. Y

      Lower manifold looks like a perfect gasket match port. Nice work there.
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      Quote Originally Posted by pileofredparts View Post
      Do you guys remember the time that Ryan kid started mixing and matching rods and end caps and then his motor wouldnt turn over? I do

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      05-28-2010 04:02 PM #30
      Quote Originally Posted by DUBZAK View Post
      Scotty, I wouldnt use my original head after many of the water jackets had the same deterioration due to a PO using the Green Coolant. Yours is nowhere near the condition mine was for sure, If it can be welded and planed true, go for it.

      I would also reaffirm that he small gap between the new valve seats he has installed will be addressed. I believe this is why the ones TT sell may have been different in size.

      Just want to look out for you man. Y

      Lower manifold looks like a perfect gasket match port. Nice work there.
      Yeah, I was a tad worried when I saw the gap behind/under the valve seats, but yesterday when I looked at the head the gaps were gone. Forgot to ask exactly how the gap was removed, but either way it looked good. You can actually see it in my most recent pics.
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      06-02-2010 09:42 AM #31
      Wait, is this motor going into a MkII ???
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      06-02-2010 09:43 PM #32
      Quote Originally Posted by renohuskerdu View Post
      Wait, is this motor going into a MkII ???
      Correct, this one to be exact:

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      06-03-2010 03:02 AM #34
      Quote Originally Posted by Scotty_2.0 View Post
      Correct, this one to be exact:
      Is it a shoehorn job, or does it go in easily? Do you need to fab motor mounts, linkages, etc? Crikey, a MkII weighs, what, 600lbs less than a MkIII? That little sucker is going to fly!
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      06-03-2010 02:50 PM #35
      Quote Originally Posted by renohuskerdu View Post
      Is it a shoehorn job, or does it go in easily? Do you need to fab motor mounts, linkages, etc? Crikey, a MkII weighs, what, 600lbs less than a MkIII? That little sucker is going to fly!
      It's a tight fit, but it with Corrado stuff it all bolts right up. Had to tilt the engine/trans mission to shoehorn it out from between the frame rails. The end of the trans wants to get caught on the p/s lines. I can't wait to get it running, since it was quick before and that was with stock internals and blown rings. Just came back from the machine shop, I'll have some new pics up tonight. The intake ports are pretty much done, just dropped off the exhaust manifolds and gaskets to have then ported and matched up.
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