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    Thread: *Official R32 Clear Coat Peel thread*

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      06-30-2010 06:53 PM #26
      linking clearcoat threads together:

      http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthrea...1#post66418486


      I haven't had any issues yet. Good luck to those of you who have and thanks for blazing that trail to VWoA's pocketbook!

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      06-30-2010 07:26 PM #27
      Alright, guys, we need more pictures! As I stated in the thread I started earlier today, I will be meeting with the district service manager in two days to discuss this issue. Help me get as much visual evidence as possible, and we might have a shot at pushing this thing all the way to the top. I haven't had the issue myself, but I find it frustrating that VW hasn't helped out those of you in the .:R community who are having this issue.

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      06-30-2010 08:34 PM #28
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      I have a TR with clearcoat peeling mostly on hood, and a little patch on the roof. I'll take pics asap.




      10/1/11 update below copied from page 8:


      Updated numbers and info below again.

      Originally Posted by mista dubba dubba
      Ok, so I collected vortex usernames and colors (TR=tornado red) of MK4 R32's with clear coat issues that display this manufacturer's defect. Many from this thread, and many from others found in linked threads, as well as from a quick search. Hope this helps.


      Summary of findings:

      17.6% of all the 500 TR ever produced were posted about.
      83.8% of posts where the color was specified were about TR.

      106 Total Posts
      105 Total Posts w/ color specified
      88 Total TR Posts


      VW Covered Respray for the following, some partial, some total:
      badmofo
      BigBadBull
      Fleethammer
      jpop
      mfc143
      PowerDubs
      R32FL
      R32EEEK
      Tredmark4



      Complete list of usernames below. In 4 cases, listed as user's friend, when only posted as such.
      *14 TR cases with pictures posted below.
      .:R32Chick TR
      .:Red_Devil TR
      2u4uR32 TR
      6~pack RS
      * 97audia4 TR pic on pg 5
      aar0n TR
      * AndyTR32 TR pic on pg 2
      * ARedOne TR pic on pg 7
      average dude TR
      badmofo TR
      beachball6 TR
      BigBadBull TR
      canois415 TR
      * chupecabra TR pic on pg 7
      CRUIZ2007 TR
      CSpence TR
      DannyCVR6 TR
      darkmann TR
      DCmobile TR
      DeathMoJo DBP
      Doublek's DBP
      Drews R32 TR
      Dub boy TR
      DubSr TR
      duvinclunk TR
      * ecgolfer04 BMP pic on pg 8
      EIPtuningR32 RS
      Famous337 RS
      FancyGoLF TR
      Fleethammer TR
      g_wagon TR
      * Harepower TR pic on pg 5,6
      hauseda TR
      HeadlinerG60 DBP
      huvGTI TR
      IGGY TR
      jaxitron TR
      jcstomper RS
      * jessla TR pic on pg 1
      jpop TR
      jppro BMP
      just1n TR
      * Kstyle TR pic on pg 2
      Ldubya TR
      lippeddub TR
      lorge1989's friend TR
      maxxtout99 TR
      meidschun Unspecified
      Memphis R32 RS
      * mfc143 TR pic on pg 2
      mikey_o TR
      Militant3941 TR
      mista dubba dubba TR
      mk3gtidriver TR
      monmarie TR
      mpm R32 RS
      mtu_r32 TR
      noznab TR
      palmeirense1099 RS
      pim R32 TR
      Pin2win TR
      pmoo9 TR
      * PowerDubs TR pic on pg 1
      PRO_HYPE TR
      * Projekt R32 TR pic on pg 1
      R32-4U TR
      R32EEEK TR
      R32FL TR
      * RapidFireX TR pic on pg 3
      RIP97vr6 TR
      ripdan TR
      Rob94w TR
      Robthirtytwo TR
      * rpenwell TR pic on pg 8
      rubba dub dub (now r32broski) TR
      Seask TR
      shinnersvr6 TR
      skifreakjay TR
      Slammed SLC TR
      Stiglitz TR
      Subfixer TR
      Tangowithalex TR
      TDIFan_87 TR
      ThatVdub BMP
      themaltsburglar TR
      tornado_red_R32 TR
      Tredmark4 TR
      TRR32Andrew TR
      turbovdub4 TR
      TXR32 DBP
      ubercube TR
      VDubAce TR
      Vdubgrub TR
      * veedubbin_atl TR pic on pg 1
      vr6sticks TR
      VW-FF TR
      vwlifer27 RS
      vwlifer27's friend RS
      vw-tim TR
      wild32R TR
      wombatsauce BMP
      xbluewaterx TR
      xbluewaterx's friend 1 TR
      xbluewaterx's friend 2 TR
      * youngm7 TR pic on pg 2
      YoungRepublic TR

      So much for a lazy suday afternoon!
      Last edited by mista dubba dubba; 10-01-2011 at 04:24 PM.

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      06-30-2010 11:48 PM #29
      I added pics of my clear coat, starting to get worse....
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      07-01-2010 09:54 AM #30
      Ugh i dont want this to happen!!!!

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      07-01-2010 04:05 PM #31
      RS 42k, no issues. Sounds like it's only the TR .:R's. They might have been the first R's off the line and the clearcoat was defective. Just my take on it though.

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      07-02-2010 09:34 AM #32
      Yes, everyone is aware it is only TR's

    8. 08-11-2010 05:27 PM #33
      reflex silver, not just limited to tr.

      41k miles, clear peeling under rear driver side window.

      i know of another rs r32 owner who has it peeling on front fender, passenger side. he works at a vw dealer.

      what are we doing about this? i met with a local rep today and she denied any knowledge of this issue. she said that if it was still under warranty, this would be no problem (obviously) and that if it was a 'manufactering problem they would put out a recall or tsb" and that "cars get old and start to break down".

      all she suggested was calling customer care.

      can we make this more formal and send off pics and names to vwoa?

    9. 08-11-2010 05:46 PM #34
      WAX DUDES, everyone whos cars are peeling are they left out in the sun baking all day, and do you only wash the car but not wax it, the only reason i wax my car is to keep the paint from chipping and peeling, it keeps it moist. maybe im wrong and its whatever but im really curious to know, because it seems sketchy man

      it wouldnt surprise me if these cars never saw a coat of wax, the paint is probably so dried out
      Last edited by Mazey83; 08-11-2010 at 05:54 PM.

    10. 08-11-2010 05:56 PM #35
      WAX DUDES, everyone whos cars are peeling are they left out in the sun baking all day, and do you only wash the car but not wax it, the only reason i wax my car is to keep the paint from chipping and peeling, it keeps it moist. maybe im wrong and its whatever but im really curious to know, because it seems sketchy man

      it wouldnt surprise me if these cars never saw a coat of wax, the paint is probably so dried out
      really dude? really? new to the r32 boards?

    11. 08-11-2010 06:06 PM #36
      Quote Originally Posted by vwlifer27 View Post
      really dude? really? new to the r32 boards?
      haha whatever dude this is just like all other forums, you gotta post 4k times to have a say. what a joke

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      08-11-2010 06:30 PM #37
      back on topic

      None here yet. I keep a close eye on mine. When I detail it, I have noticed little bubbles, pin sized, that I can push down to make it less noticeable. I can only see these in halogen sun lights though. It was garaged or covered for 4 years. Now it is an outside car. Car has lived in TX and FL.

      Knowing how passionate owners of R32s are, I doubt waxing was skipped. The pictures clearly indicate clear coat failure.

      Its said that this is becoming more prevalent. I'd say its affecting at least 15% of the TR R's
      Last edited by shinnersvr6; 08-11-2010 at 06:40 PM.

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      08-14-2010 03:45 PM #38
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      Quarter size spot on driver rear quarter
      Quarter size spot and drivers a pillar
      a few dings from rocks taht are starting on the front

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      08-14-2010 07:01 PM #39
      Quote Originally Posted by Mazey83 View Post
      haha whatever dude this is just like all other forums, you gotta post 4k times to have a say. what a joke

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      08-15-2010 04:14 PM #40
      Quote Originally Posted by Mazey83 View Post
      WAX DUDES, everyone whos cars are peeling are they left out in the sun baking all day, and do you only wash the car but not wax it, the only reason i wax my car is to keep the paint from chipping and peeling, it keeps it moist. maybe im wrong and its whatever but im really curious to know, because it seems sketchy man

      it wouldnt surprise me if these cars never saw a coat of wax, the paint is probably so dried out
      1. my car is hand washed/waxed, garaged, and rarely in snow/rain.
      2. my car is peeling like crazy from a fault on the Manufacturer's end. Learn the history and problems the TR R32 community is having.

      sooo GTFO with your uneducated rant I do not feel like having this thread locked for no reason. We are all trying very hard to VWOA to recognize the fault on their end. A manufacturer's defect is causing our clear coat to de-laminate. Out of 500 TR's about 100 have this issue.

      So its cool to be a forum noob, and want to ask questions, I have no problem with that, but this thread is for people who are directly affected by VW's poor painting job in the TR's. Please post your rants elsewhere, unless you have legitimate things to offer. So until then:
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      08-31-2010 01:35 PM #42
      What about adding build date for reference as well? My '04 paint is still intact, although she's been a garage queen most of her life. I sure hope VW has corrected this colossal f&%$up, seeing as I own a Tornado Red '08 R32 as well!

      And the build date on my '04 is May, 2004. I wonder if it's across the whole 500 car batch, or limited to earlier build dates.
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      08-31-2010 01:47 PM #43
      Quote Originally Posted by Projekt R32 View Post
      1. my car is hand washed/waxed, garaged, and rarely in snow/rain.
      2. my car is peeling like crazy from a fault on the Manufacturer's end. Learn the history and problems the TR R32 community is having.

      sooo GTFO with your uneducated rant I do not feel like having this thread locked for no reason. We are all trying very hard to VWOA to recognize the fault on their end. A manufacturer's defect is causing our clear coat to de-laminate. Out of 500 TR's about 100 have this issue.

      So its cool to be a forum noob, and want to ask questions, I have no problem with that, but this thread is for people who are directly affected by VW's poor painting job in the TR's. Please post your rants elsewhere, unless you have legitimate things to offer. So until then:
      I support this thread although (knock on wood) I don't have the issue but you never know when the issue will come up. Hopefully VW will take care of this for everyone. I also wash and wax my car often but I am the 3rd owner with 46k miles (10k of those are my miles). I don't know how the first owner kept it up. I know the second owner kept it waxed because I did it for him.
      Good Luck on this it's been a hot topic for some time now.

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      08-31-2010 02:40 PM #44
      I can't believe VW won't address this issue with these cars, how lousy on their part. It's clearly a manufacturer defect. GOOD LUCK getting it resolved with VW. I had a 2006 BMP GLI and the clear coat was peeling off it by 22,000 miles.

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      08-31-2010 09:25 PM #45
      Well you should look here. The thread I had seems to have more info in it that might help the cause.

      http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthrea...ff-in-sheets-(

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      09-08-2010 04:40 PM #46
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      09-08-2010 07:37 PM #47
      Not sure if you've gotten anywhere with VW. Will supply pics but minor issue at the moment. However... 88k, acne on the front hood edge. No issues elsewhere...yet. Garaged most of the time, washed and waxed consistantly. TR obviously. Where do we stand?

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      09-10-2010 12:04 AM #48


      2008 TR .:R owner here.. VW Canada seems more willing to explore the issue for me even though they denied it on the first inquiry. But it's interesting to find out this is not even just a 2008 problem.


      Here's my thread in MkV forum:
      http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthrea...enied-on-paint

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      09-10-2010 08:40 AM #49
      Quote Originally Posted by Projekt R32 View Post
      1. my car is hand washed/waxed, garaged, and rarely in snow/rain.
      2. my car is peeling like crazy from a fault on the Manufacturer's end.
      Just a quick question to all the TR people with this issue.

      Even if you wash and wax it a lot plus a garage..
      Who parks out in the sun during the day?

      I have no issues yet, but my car lives in garages.
      It sees sun when it's moving but most of it's life it has
      lived in garages out of the sun. I can basically count
      the days that it sat all day outside in direct sunlight for a full day.

      So if you have a Dracula TR, are you free of clear coat issues?
      Manufacturers defects exist but there should be a catalyst like the sun,
      acid rain, too much OCD detailing with spinning the polishing compound..etc.

      I'm sorry to see this happen to so many people.
      If/when it happens to me I am going to vinyl wrap the car.

      This same thing happened to my 91 Mr2 turbo. That red sucked too.

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      09-10-2010 10:21 AM #50
      Quote Originally Posted by pod-mods View Post
      Who parks out in the sun during the day?
      Mine is garaged unless driven, if its parked outside when I have to go out for errands its out for like an hour. Unless I am out for the night, on a trip, ect, my car is garaged. I treat this car better than any GF I have had, haha. My paint started to peel before 40k miles...

      Quote Originally Posted by pod-mods View Post

      If/when it happens to me I am going to vinyl wrap the car.
      Way ahead of you, wrapping the R32 is my winter project.... URBAN CAMO SON!
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