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#106
Who would be in for a $300 machined aluminum thermo housing? If not, please post your price point.
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#108
how about a kit that comes with a crack pipe for around 300?
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#110
OK guys, thanks for input. We are evaluating.
Are there any others who want to provide input ?
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#111
24V Billet VR6 Drive Belt Pulleys - All 24V VR6
GruvenParts.com offers a complete set of ultra sleek lightweight 24V VR6 power pulleys. These include lightweight billet crank, power steering, water pump, tensioner, and alternator pulleys for your 24V VR6 engine. These pulleys are precision CNC'd from aircraft grade billet aluminum and reduce the rotating mass by a whopping 8.5 lbs! All pulleys ARE NORMAL DRIVE (NOT UNDER-DRIVE). These pulleys will not change the speed of the supercharger and will not void any supercharger warranties.
Buy them as a set and save!
These pulleys replace the following OEM part numbers :
Crank Pulley : 022-105-243A (022105243A)
Tensioner Pulley: 022-145-299D (022145299D)
Water Pump Pulley: 021-121-031A (021121031A)
Alternator Pulley: 022-903-119A (022903119A) and 038-903-119B (038903119B)
Power Steering Pulley : 038-145-255A (038145255A)
#112
Why not come up with some molds and have them cast in aluminum or even iron.... for $50-100 respectively? Once the molds are repeatable, cost of production would go way down and make it affordable for anyone on nearly any budget. This method would require minimal machining, dramatically dropping production costs and pass that savings on to the consumers.
I don't understand the hype of CNC and why it is sooooooooooooooo overpriced, sure the machinery and initial set-up have high costs, but after that the cost of production go down tremendously. Aluminum is a soft material, so machining doesn't cause much wear and tear on equipment, so where does the markup come from?
Also, this is not a high tolerance critical part and the surface finish has no requirement to be fully smooth except for the few mating surfaces.
Last edited by MachtSchnell; 10-09-2012 at 04:58 PM.
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#113
I would be very interested but 300 would be too much for me. I would hop all over it for 200 or even 250 w pipe
#114
yeah I'd love to have one of these thermo housings within 3 weeks to join all my other gruvenparts goodies....... $300 is a tad much I agree, although I have little to no knowledge of CNC.
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#115
so I did a billet crack pipe/Tstat housing/ water pump job today on a customers car, and let me just say, the crack pipe was a huge pita to get in the block. even with all my weight on it still wouldn't pop in.
small tip that worked great for doing the install, if you are doing a water pump at the same time.
I used a ratchet strap threaded through the pipe out the end of the block. tied around a small block of wood. used that to pull the crack pipe on instead of attempting to push it on. worked MUCH better
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total cost of tooling for a356-t6 cast thermo housing assy > $100K and thats in china (which I personally wont do). Then you still have quite a bit of post process machining as the cast parts are going to be far from net shape. in the end, its better to cnc the pieces.
regarding the issue with crack pipe installation, please call when you have an issue like that. There was definitely something going on here that brute force wasnt the answer to. You need to clean out the mating bore on the water pump inlet side. Sometimes that requires a steel brush if the scale is really built up. You can then lube the o-rings and twist the pipe into the block while pushing. I know its tight, but it must be to prevent leaks. However, it should not be anywhere close to as tight as you mentioned. Using that much force you may have damaged the o-ring.
Anyways, please call when something like that comes up. Using a bigger hammer is never the solution when dealing with a VR6 coolant system.
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I didn't take out the battery box so wasn't able to really get a good angle on it to push it on by hand, or maybe I'm just a weakling, lol. I was under the impression reading the DIY for it that it shouldn't be twisted at all when installing, as that could damage the oring. that prolly would have made it easier
I had cleaned it out with sand paper really well before installing, And before attempting to install it looked nice and clean so I dunno. it ended up slipping in alot easier when pulled on like that, just because the force was coming from a much better angle and I was able to hold it in perfect alignment while it was being pulled on.
anyways install was successful and we pressure tested the cooling system for leaks afterwards, so I'm pretty certain nothing was damged
Last edited by mk3_vdub; 10-15-2012 at 01:42 PM.
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very true, at this point I wouldn't mind paying that for one, mainly bc I've been patiently waiting for them to get them made for like 2 years, lol. but I think they'd sell alot more of them if it's priced similar to the crack pipes, roughly 2-2.5 times an oem version of the same part.
it's easy to up sell people on a billet crack pipe bc it's not too much more then the oem one, but it would be difficult to get a ton of people to buy them if it's like 4 times what the plastic one costs.
ideally they should be priced so that almost everyone that's doing a crack pipe/Tstat housing job buys this one instead of plastic.
tldr: lower price=higher volume sold=more profit
#123
paul, when you gonna start selling the oil filter cap/drain?
#124
Still working on the oil cap/drain. Those are turning into $150 products as well, I know we need to keep pricing down. I will check with engineering and see where we are at with it.
#126
This would be a more than worthwhile item. After changing the oil this weekend on my new to me vr6, the plastic nut is almost rounded completely. Seems like a common problem amongst VR's, either stripping the drain plug or cracking the plastic hex head. 150$ seems justifiable, considering plastic factory housing is $70...
Also just a thought to help keep machining and costs down; I'd be more than fine with a cap/housing without that drain plug. not necessary IMO.
It's easy enough to change if careful and know what you're doing without trying to unscrew or risk stripping the plug.
LOL even if it would only save 10 bucks or something trivial, id almost prefer a solid housing without the drain plug.
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I never had the luxury of being able use the factory drain on the oil filter housing, because it was stripped when I bought the car. I bought a replacement plug and had zero luck removing the old plug with a few common methods but the stock aluminum bolt just deformed like putty and didn't budge.
That said I think it would be worthwhile to include a drain option. For people who don't have a lift or don't feel like covering the whole ground/garage floor with newspaper will thank you. I know it isn't necessary, but it allows for a foolproof no mess oil change. After many oil changes I have gotten used to and can avoid spillage, but occasionally it still happens.
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#129
Will do, we'll include options for both ways. And our oil drain plug wont be :
1. plastic
2. tiny
3. tiny and plastic
4. soft aluminum
ect...
Thanks for input guys, will update again once we have a better timeline.
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24V Billet VR6 Drive Belt Pulleys - All 24V VR6
GruvenParts.com offers a complete set of ultra sleek lightweight 24V VR6 power pulleys. These include lightweight billet crank, power steering, water pump, tensioner, and alternator pulleys for your 24V VR6 engine. These pulleys are precision CNC'd from aircraft grade billet aluminum and reduce the rotating mass by a whopping 8.5 lbs! All pulleys ARE NORMAL DRIVE (NOT UNDER-DRIVE). These pulleys will not change the speed of the supercharger and will not void any supercharger warranties.
Buy them as a set and save!
These pulleys replace the following OEM part numbers :
Crank Pulley : 022-105-243A (022105243A)
Tensioner Pulley: 022-145-299D (022145299D)
Water Pump Pulley: 021-121-031A (021121031A)
Alternator Pulley: 022-903-119A (022903119A) and 038-903-119B (038903119B)
Power Steering Pulley : 038-145-255A (038145255A)
#133
Billet 2.4” Vortech Supercharger Pulleys !
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These pulleys come machined to accept the standard woodruff key found on the Vortech V Series supercharger output shafts (key and bolt not included). Please calculate your maximum impeller RPM to ensure you do not overdrive the supercharger at high RPMs. This product may void any Vortech factory warranties.
#134
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We've been around VW's long enough to know that Murphy is a mother***! Therefore, we have crafted these billet MK4 Golf / Jetta / R32 / Wagon hood pulls from a solid blocks of aerospace grade 6061-T651 aluminum using 1 of our 5 axis CNC's. Its an exact replica of the OEM part, except made the way VW should of done it - from billet! Forget about the Pray and Pull theory, you're not breaking this one! Includes nut/bolt for the simple installation.
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Billet 2.4” Vortech Supercharger Pulleys !
GruvenParts.com Billet 2.4” Supercharger Pulleys for Vortech Chargers !
Got a boost addiction? Check out these 2.4” diameter supercharger pulleys for V Series Vortech superchargers. This pulley will allow your charger to spin faster, creating more boost and more power.
These pulleys are precision CNC’d from 6061-T6511 aluminum and are sized to precisely match the shaft output on Vortech chargers. These pulleys are 7 rib, but can be used in 6 rib applications that provide enough clearance for a 7 rib pulley (you would just have 1 empty rib). Please note the offset distance (from charger side of pulley to the centerline of the 1st rib = 0.650”). Rib spacing is 0.140” center to center (for K style serpentine belts). The overall width from end to end = 1.640”.
These pulleys come machined to accept the standard woodruff key found on the Vortech V Series supercharger output shafts (key and bolt not included). Please calculate your maximum impeller RPM to ensure you do not overdrive the supercharger at high RPMs. This product may void any Vortech factory warranties.
#137
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VW/Audi VR6 Billet Intake Links !
Our billet drive links replaces the plastic drive unit linkage which extends from the actuator up to the intake rod highlighted with the YELLOW arrow in this picture :
If you have been around VR6’s that long, you already know the OEM part is made from plastic and becomes very brittle in the engine heat. Of course VW/Audi will not sell you *JUST* this part, you would have to buy a whole new drive unit for big bucks and get a bunch of stuff you don’t need. Even if you did buy the expensive OEM part, it would be PLASTIC and would quickly break again.
GruvenParts.com builds these the way VW should have: from a solid chunk of 6061-T651 aircraft grade aluminum on a 4 axis CNC. Ours come with a Delrin insert installed in the specially machined socket to precisely mate with the ball on the intake rod. This provides excellent lubrication and unmatched strength.
To install this part, unbolt the actuator from the engine and gently pry apart the 2 mating actuator halves (they are snap fit together). Once apart, simply remove the plastic OEM link and replace with our billet aluminum version. Snap the 2 halves back together and reinstall on the engine.
This billet VR6 drive linkage makes a great upgrade when installing our :
MKIV VR6 Intake Manifold Bushings - 12V and 24V VR6 Engines
and our
Billet Intake Manifold Drive Unit Linkage!
You guys asked us for it and we listened. Another great billet replacement part to rid your VW/Audi of the weak plastic parts!
Applications:
2.8L 12 V VR6 ENGINE - with AFP Engine Code (99-02 Golf/Jetta VR6) to replace the drive unit linkage p/n 071-133-759D (071133759D) on OEM VW rod p/n 021-133-653 (021133653)
2.8L 24 V VR6 ENGINE - BDF Engine Code (02 - present Golf/Jetta VR6) to replace the drive unit linkage p/n 022-133-759 (022133759) on OEM VW rod p/n 022-133-653 (022133653)
3.2L 24V VR6 Engines - 04 R32, 3.2 Touareg, 3.2 Eos, 3.2 A3, 3.2 TT to replace the drive unit linkage p/n 022-133-759A (022133759A) on rod p/n 022-133-653B (022133653B)
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24V Billet VR6 Drive Belt Pulleys - All 24V VR6
GruvenParts.com offers a complete set of ultra sleek lightweight 24V VR6 power pulleys. These include lightweight billet crank, power steering, water pump, tensioner, and alternator pulleys for your 24V VR6 engine. These pulleys are precision CNC'd from aircraft grade billet aluminum and reduce the rotating mass by a whopping 8.5 lbs! All pulleys ARE NORMAL DRIVE (NOT UNDER-DRIVE). These pulleys will not change the speed of the supercharger and will not void any supercharger warranties.
Buy them as a set and save!
These pulleys replace the following OEM part numbers :
Crank Pulley : 022-105-243A (022105243A)
Tensioner Pulley: 022-145-299D (022145299D)
Water Pump Pulley: 021-121-031A (021121031A)
Alternator Pulley: 022-903-119A (022903119A) and 038-903-119B (038903119B)
Power Steering Pulley : 038-145-255A (038145255A)
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I'd do $300 for a Thermo housing with a billet 'pipe. Also, does this fit the BDF VR6?
http://gruvenparts.com/website/cart/...category_id=60
It lists the AAA & AFP...