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    Thread: 2.1L 16v; 87' gti

    1. Member ur faster's Avatar
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      07-22-2010 09:27 PM #51
      sweet build good luck

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      07-23-2010 12:46 AM #52
      I would like to put the module on my car asap. But, I'll checkout that show in woodburn if my schedule permits, is it a vw show? how much for both? ill give you 75 for both, five for the boot and ten for gas? let me know gtiyr87, I'm waiting on my block from the shop and I have officially ran out of small ish to do.
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      07-23-2010 01:02 PM #53
      Pics of the rocco today, possibly.


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      07-23-2010 07:22 PM #54
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      07-23-2010 07:48 PM #55
      Quote Originally Posted by antichristonwheels View Post
      It will be capable of 8000 easy. However you will achieve peak power around 6500 so really not much need to spin much past 7000. Take your head to Steve at Progressive Automotive in Tacoma. Collin does great work, I have a head from him. But he is always booked for months. Steve also did a head for me and that was a stock 9A bottom end. It made 150hp 122 tork on a dynojet. Steve's turnaround was less then 2 weeks. I don't know about Autotechs head work I am sure it's fine but if I was gonna send a head to California and spend the money I would get it done by Fumio.
      Wow Fumio, have not heard that name in years, I remember him from my air-cooled performance days
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      07-23-2010 11:32 PM #56
      Fumio is still around. He just recently did my friends 8v head and will be doing his 16v soon. He is a legend. I pass his shop every day.

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      07-24-2010 12:29 AM #57
      damn dude, just read through that whole thing. looks like itll be alot of fun. my uncle has a 2.0 16v in his scca car. same pistons your using, port, polish, 6lbs off the crank, balanced, 50 mil intake, schrick 276's, lightened flywheel, the little black box thing (not sure what companys) peloquin, and a 16v trans. at road atlanta it spins hot slicks up the hill outta turn one in second gear. things a ****in blast. granted its not even close to a daily, but he never had any drive train issues in 6 years. up untill it blew an axel last year. regular 16v clutch disk too. seems to be a very reliable setup. ill be watching this build. keep up the good work

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      07-24-2010 04:06 AM #58
      Im glad to hear positive feed back on this sort of build; I'm really curious what kinda torque and hp it will put for me on the dyno. So, your uncle was running a 95.5 lightened and balanced crank with six pounds off of it? He prob had a crazy CR also. I have 10.8:1 cr pistons, with a my block being decked 5-8 thousands. Depending on the wear on the block.Did your uncle ever have his car dyno'd?
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      07-24-2010 09:53 AM #59
      to be honest, i was pretty young during that build. im not to sure on the specifics. i know the compression ratio was around 11:1. and he was just running a lightened stock crank. haha they lightened the **** out of it. never took it to a dyno, sorry man. it was soo responsive and snappy though, it revved like a damn sport bike. lol. he wasnt real stressed out about the numbers, just how much fun it was to drive. and it ended up being extremely competitive. youve done a good job with yours though, the cams are more streetable, and the displacement should make up for not having crazy cams. have fun dude.

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      07-24-2010 04:51 PM #60
      Thanks for the support sir, all the positive feedback helps out. Now all I need is GTIYr87 to sell me his fuel module and extra TB boot Let me know what you think about my offer or , ya know.
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      07-25-2010 12:23 AM #61
      I think i'm gonna file down the screws on the flaps in the TB. I already filed one side and it looks pretty good, I'll put up pics later tonight. This is really boring work, but when everything else comes in, I wouldn't have time for this kinda stuff.
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      07-26-2010 10:17 PM #62
      I decided to clean the garage out in lieu of the motor being finished at the shop next week. I ordered stock replacement stretch rod bolts from TT. I might work on the TB tonight; well see after a few
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      07-26-2010 10:34 PM #63
      wow, haven't seen a 16valve build like this in a while...i'm liking what i see :thumbup;

      btw, you can build yourself an enrichment module:



      you can replace the 1k ohm resister w/ a potentiometer to adjust the enrichment...

      made one for my old 16valve and it helped a lot w/ cams...

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      07-26-2010 11:18 PM #64
      Quote Originally Posted by ratdub View Post
      wow, haven't seen a 16valve build like this in a while...i'm liking what i see :thumbup;

      btw, you can build yourself an enrichment module:



      you can replace the 1k ohm resister w/ a potentiometer to adjust the enrichment...

      made one for my old 16valve and it helped a lot w/ cams...
      Hey, thanks man! Your like the c0ck blocker of sales.

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      07-26-2010 11:21 PM #65
      Quote Originally Posted by GTIYR87 View Post
      Hey, thanks man! Your like the c0ck blocker of sales.
      meh, maybe your just banking on the guy isn't good w/ a soldering iron...

      things like this are open source, you don't have to pay $100 for something you can make for under $5...

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      07-26-2010 11:47 PM #66
      Quote Originally Posted by ratdub View Post
      meh, maybe your just banking on the guy isn't good w/ a soldering iron...

      things like this are open source, you don't have to pay $100 for something you can make for under $5...
      dang...your right. There shouldn't even be companies now that I think like you. I'll just make my own smelter, forge my own pistons, make cranks out of bondo. Damn...My engine is gonna rip. Thanks bro

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      07-26-2010 11:48 PM #67
      Quote Originally Posted by GTIYR87 View Post
      dang...your right. There shouldn't even be companies now that I think like you. I'll just make my own smelter, forge my own pistons, make cranks out of bondo. Damn...My engine is gonna rip. Thanks bro
      dude, it's simple wiring...freakin' chill out...

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      07-26-2010 11:51 PM #68
      Quote Originally Posted by ratdub View Post
      dude, it's simple wiring...freakin' chill out...
      It looks like it...I'm chill...actually pretty excited. Just made a mold of the uber rare mk1 gti....I'm gonna start selling new shells!!!

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      07-27-2010 12:00 AM #69
      guess it's a slow night...

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      07-27-2010 12:53 AM #70
      ha ha you guys are nuts... I already read about that tread ratdub. I'd rather have a proven product though. LOL bondo'd cranks. And I do own a nice craftsman soldering gun, but I'm more of a audio system soldering guy. Thanks for the heads up though, much appreciated.
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      07-27-2010 06:16 AM #71
      Actually I already smoothed out the larger side, and on the right side you can see the knobs poking out.
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      07-27-2010 06:18 AM #72
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      07-27-2010 08:39 PM #73
      Quote Originally Posted by Youngfonza View Post
      Thanks for the heads up though, much appreciated.
      np

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      07-28-2010 05:52 AM #74
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      07-29-2010 03:30 PM #75
      I went down to the shop and saw my head apart. Guy went over and showed me that my valve guides on the exhaust side were a little worn, then he showed me where he was gonna do most of the polishing and porting work. So I went home and ordered intake and exhaust valve guides plus seals. I went with the tapered silicone-bronze guides from TT. I'm getting excited, although all I could afford was four hours of work on my head at 50 per hr. Guy told me he would install valve guides and my new hd springs for free considering it's part of rebuilding the head. Saw my block as well, it looks like it's ready to be punched and line-bored.
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