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      07-27-2010 06:16 AM #71
      Actually I already smoothed out the larger side, and on the right side you can see the knobs poking out.
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      07-27-2010 06:18 AM #72
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      07-27-2010 08:39 PM #73
      Quote Originally Posted by Youngfonza View Post
      Thanks for the heads up though, much appreciated.
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      07-28-2010 05:52 AM #74
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      07-29-2010 03:30 PM #75
      I went down to the shop and saw my head apart. Guy went over and showed me that my valve guides on the exhaust side were a little worn, then he showed me where he was gonna do most of the polishing and porting work. So I went home and ordered intake and exhaust valve guides plus seals. I went with the tapered silicone-bronze guides from TT. I'm getting excited, although all I could afford was four hours of work on my head at 50 per hr. Guy told me he would install valve guides and my new hd springs for free considering it's part of rebuilding the head. Saw my block as well, it looks like it's ready to be punched and line-bored.
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      07-30-2010 12:14 AM #76
      hey mario, figured out the cluster lights, needle nose pliers did the trick, just rotate and pull straight out. project looks good bro, i'll hit you up next week to check it out in person.

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      07-30-2010 06:50 AM #77
      Im in the process if building the same motor except a lot higher compression and running the car on e-85.. Just waiting on a few more parts and then should have it running at the first of next week.

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      07-30-2010 09:29 AM #78
      looking good , gotta keep the 16v going

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      07-30-2010 05:44 PM #79
      Yeah I love 16v's, I'm a child of the 80's and this was my dream car growing up. I see the look on my fiancees' face, she thinks I'm crazy with how much money has gone into this vehicle the past 3-4 years. I'll eventually get into a mark 4 or 5 veedub, but I have a car build that has been waiting for many years.
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      07-30-2010 05:47 PM #80
      Do you mean ethanol 85? does the 85 stand for the octane? If so isnt that lower than pump premiem, so wouldnt that still knock? I was curious about that because my CR might reach close to 11:1, and I was worried about possible knocking. What kind of conversions to the fuel system do you need to run the E-85?
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      07-30-2010 07:52 PM #81
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E85 Here ya go....
      I'll ship that out tomorrow or monday at the latest.

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      07-31-2010 02:54 AM #82
      Quote Originally Posted by Youngfonza View Post
      Do you mean ethanol 85? does the 85 stand for the octane? If so isnt that lower than pump premiem, so wouldnt that still knock? I was curious about that because my CR might reach close to 11:1, and I was worried about possible knocking. What kind of conversions to the fuel system do you need to run the E-85?
      im from the midwest everything runs on e-85 and no it will not knock its usually about 102-108 octane and is $2.17 a gallon right now and usually is $2.00 a gallon

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      07-31-2010 08:30 AM #83
      Quote Originally Posted by Bottlefed67 View Post
      Im in the process if building the same motor except a lot higher compression and running the car on e-85.. Just waiting on a few more parts and then should have it running at the first of next week.
      Wow... I wanna see this. You got all the rubber out of the fuel system?

      Loving the 16v build too. Not many people actually building engines here... that's another project I gotta tackle myself
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      07-31-2010 04:49 PM #84
      Wow... what are the draw backs to running e-85 on the engine. Did have to make any modifications?
      It sounds to good to be true.

      Sounds good Gtiyr87, so i suppose you received the check. I cant wait to install.
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      07-31-2010 06:25 PM #85
      Good looking on the info gtiyr87. I also checked out some websites and conversion kits. I didn't see a kit for my 87 cis-e fuel system. I would like to convert for the increase in octane and lower fuel costs, but I wouldn't go digi I or II for it. And I think unless you running straight ethanol and not combining the fuel, which is what your suppose to do(from what i hear), the octane is anywhere from 94-98 octane.
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      07-31-2010 08:02 PM #86
      Quote Originally Posted by VDub2625 View Post
      Wow... I wanna see this. You got all the rubber out of the fuel system?

      Loving the 16v build too. Not many people actually building engines here... that's another project I gotta tackle myself


      im running a whole new fuel system, im going to run it on megasquirt, my first intentions were to use a obd1 honda dist and make a new harness and run the car on chrome pro but there is a import face off event in august i would like to make before i try to get crazy with it. The only downfall to e-85 is they change the blends when its starts to get colder out and the octane isnt as high and you have to you have to run your fuel about 30-35% richer since its alcohol. When i start doing that i will make a build thread to show you guys how i did it. sorry for jacking your thread

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      07-31-2010 08:08 PM #87
      Quote Originally Posted by Youngfonza View Post
      Good looking on the info gtiyr87. I also checked out some websites and conversion kits. I didn't see a kit for my 87 cis-e fuel system. I would like to convert for the increase in octane and lower fuel costs, but I wouldn't go digi I or II for it. And I think unless you running straight ethanol and not combining the fuel, which is what your suppose to do(from what i hear), the octane is anywhere from 94-98 octane.


      you make your own conversion kit all you need is metal fuel line and a fuel pump and regulator that can run alcohol and ofcourse big enough injectors. and the octane usually varies on what time of the year it is summertime is the highest and usually in the 100's and you can make you own blend by using e98 and mixing the right amount of e85 with it to raise the octane if need be. but there are guys around here that make over 1000hp on out of the pump e-85

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      08-02-2010 06:00 PM #88
      these little goodies came in today, just a another $$ in a long line of $$$$$'$. True or false, will the tapered design improve on air flow in my head?

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      08-02-2010 06:08 PM #89
      Quote Originally Posted by Bottlefed67 View Post
      you make your own conversion kit all you need is metal fuel line and a fuel pump and regulator that can run alcohol and ofcourse big enough injectors. and the octane usually varies on what time of the year it is summertime is the highest and usually in the 100's and you can make you own blend by using e98 and mixing the right amount of e85 with it to raise the octane if need be. but there are guys around here that make over 1000hp on out of the pump e-85
      Where would I find a pump and regulator that are ready to run alcohol? would I just buy a new pump and regulator that havent been run on gas before? This is becoming tricky; how long has this technology been around? I know indy cars runs this as race fuel, but is it dependable, for more than 95 laps?
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      08-02-2010 08:39 PM #90
      You shouldn't even worry about running e85 just yet or anything higher than premium as of now. Just a waste of money for what you have goin on. Just my opinion.

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      08-02-2010 09:46 PM #91
      I understand that viewpoint.I was more or less thinking long term savings with the cost of ethanol vs petroleum based fuels.
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      08-03-2010 12:09 AM #92
      Quote Originally Posted by Youngfonza View Post
      I understand that viewpoint.I was more or less thinking long term savings with the cost of ethanol vs petroleum based fuels.
      True.......here are the six gas stations map quest found in the vancouver area. Hope this helps.vhttp://gasprices.mapquest.com/search...d=&sortOrder=2

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      08-03-2010 12:41 AM #93
      usually when you buy a fuel pump it will say if it can be used with alcohol i know most of aeromotives stuff can run it. yes your motor will last awhile as long as the tune is good. The reason i'm using E-85 is because im from kansas, we only have 91 octane at the pump and its junk, my motor is 12.5.1 compression if not a little more and $2.00 a gallon is alot cheaper that $11.00 a gallon and is damn near the same octane.

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      08-03-2010 03:25 AM #94
      So I see; aero fuel pumps sound expensive. But back to the project. Does anyone know where I could find this dash light?

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      08-03-2010 04:59 AM #95
      Quote Originally Posted by Youngfonza View Post
      So I see; aero fuel pumps sound expensive. But back to the project. Does anyone know where I could find this dash light?



      you could also use a walbro 255 or a bosch 044 pump people do it all the time

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      08-03-2010 09:02 AM #96
      That light is not replaceable. I soldered a resistor on an LED and just stuck the bare pins in the connector, works fine for me.
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      08-03-2010 08:40 PM #97
      Thanks for the info Vdub, could I get the exact specs on what you did; like what type of resistor and what type of led light you used.
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      08-05-2010 02:11 PM #98
      currently i'm reinstalling the instrument panel, with 2 super bright led's up top and a led green tint on the clock/computer screen. The shop called; the block is being line bored today and its already been punched to 83.5mm, the intake runner is ready to be port matched and ground on down, and the head has to be ported and polished still. In short, I should have the block by tomorrow and the rest by either monday or tuesday. At least I'll have some work over the weekend.
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      08-07-2010 09:22 PM #99
      Does the clock light operate on an different power supply than the instrument panel lights? help please.
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      08-07-2010 11:07 PM #100
      Nope, same power. if you installed LEDs try reversing it since LEDs have polarity and won't light up if in backwards.
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      08-08-2010 03:23 PM #101
      Well, the reason I ask that question is I have only one of the instrument panel wire harness's connected. I guess it could have the same power and still need both harness's to work. I need to get this done and working properly, my motor should be here sometime soon, and my fuel module is gonna be here tomorrow. I looked at the fuse box and all the fuses are good as well. I bet I just need both wire harness's connected before it works.

      Oh and funny story; when I finished putting the lights in the first time w/out checking for their polarity. I kept looking for a missing vacuum hose, I saw where it was suppose to go, there was a nipple for it, but I could not find the hose for the life of me(and this is after i connected everything else behind the cluster).

      So when I get to point where I am right now, I take a flash light and start searching for this mystery vacuum hose; I'm looking in the engine bay fire wall, where the pedals are, everywhere. I realize I had cruise control on my 86 8V, not this 87 16V,and that was the sealed off nipple I saw.

      And this all occurred over two days; lazy mechanic.
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      08-08-2010 05:06 PM #102
      The vacuum line on the back of the cluster is for MFA MPG< not anything to do with cruise.

      And you shouldn't turn on the cluster with it only half connected... you might fry it.
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      08-08-2010 06:27 PM #103
      I know the vacuum line is for those purposes, but there was a nipple for a vacuum line that was sealed closed from the manufacture. It was on the upper portion of the cluster and plastic. I thought it was a dummy line for the CC, what else would it be for?

      Well, I connected the other wire harness and the light still did not work on either polarity, maybe I have a solder loose. I give up, both upper light work fine. After my car is running well, I might go back in this area and try to fix it and the shift light(I think its out as well).
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      08-08-2010 07:00 PM #104
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      08-08-2010 08:13 PM #105
      The glare is pretty bad, but the nipple is the white plastic piece.


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