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    05-27-2012 09:12 AM #281
    Quote Originally Posted by jmh2002 View Post
    5000km so far on a DLI and VF dogbone combo.

    Seems very satisfactory and so far bullet proof although based on previous threads/comments Im ready to replace the VF inserts as and when required.

    However wear on the inserts may be mitigated somewhat by the good performance of the DLI main engine mounts.

    As a side note, HPA/HGP run oem engine mounts with only an uprated dogbone even on their twin turbo installations. Food for thought perhaps...

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    05-27-2012 10:34 AM #282
    Quote Originally Posted by rycr2501993 View Post
    Thanks for the insight. Im going vf for the dog bone

    I also have the DLI and VF combo and it works very well.

  3. 05-30-2012 11:21 AM #283
    I stumbled onto this thread via DLI's website. Some very good info in here.

    I've been considering these mounts for quite some time and after reading the reviews on here, it's a dead cert now

    I note with interest the mixed opinions on VF's motor mounts. I tried them once, a long time ago, and took them off almost immediately as they were truly awful.
    I just understand the point of them, or mounts like them. The role of a motor mount is to absorb and dissipate the energy of 180Kg of dead weight jumping about on them. VF mounts do nothing of the sort. Instead they transfer this energy to other parts of the car. Back in the day when we were playing with solid mounts, things used to fracture and break because the mount wasn't doing what it was supposed to do.

    So it's a refreshing change to see a motor mount company thinking outside the box

    FWIW, the mounts I'm currently using are Vibratechnics, which are also very good. Not sure if you guys get them in the states? But I want that little extra now.

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    05-30-2012 11:32 AM #284
    Quote Originally Posted by kevhayward View Post
    FWIW, the mounts I'm currently using are Vibratechnics, which are also very good. Not sure if you guys get them in the states? But I want that little extra now.
    Thanks for your interesting post. DLIs here also, and so far so good.

    Since you have the Vibratechnics, and I a few people here have expressed interest in them, what would you say are the downsides? I mean, what is causing you to think of swapping to the DLIs?

    What is the setup on your car? Turbo'd? How much power? etc...

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    05-30-2012 11:52 AM #285
    Just a heads up they were on backorder and mine shipped today, so the might have some in stock for those looking.
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    06-10-2012 07:31 AM #286
    I'm also interessed by buying some engine mounts that can last long enough with my setup.

    I currently have a V6 4mo, turboed, with 500hp 600nm, and my BFI stage1 mount just exploded yesterday, since I've put the longer gears, seems that long torque stress does not suit the BFI's
    have to mention that the BFI may have around 3000km only...
    SO my main question is :

    Does the DLI can handle high torque setups? and does it last long?
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    06-10-2012 08:19 AM #287
    Quote Originally Posted by PowerDubs View Post
    From Dave (the guy that builds these things)-

    "These mounts are not a new product, first set to Mk4 1.8T where developed
    and tested back in 2003/2004. We did the first Mk4 VR6 a couple of years
    ago, but it´s basically the same mount as 4-cyl.

    Spare parts can be sold, but so far with hundreds of these mounts in
    different applications we have never heard of a failure and therefore never
    sold any spare parts."
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    06-10-2012 10:08 PM #288
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    06-11-2012 12:33 PM #289
    Quote Originally Posted by Milkidou View Post
    I'm also interessed by buying some engine mounts that can last long enough with my setup.

    I currently have a V6 4mo, turboed, with 500hp 600nm, and my BFI stage1 mount just exploded yesterday, since I've put the longer gears, seems that long torque stress does not suit the BFI's
    have to mention that the BFI may have around 3000km only...
    SO my main question is :

    Does the DLI can handle high torque setups? and does it last long?
    This car has been using DLI since 2008-2009. Still holding up perfect.
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  10. 06-13-2012 10:24 AM #290
    Is there diffrence with the mk5 and the mk4 mount?

    Have a used mk5 mount on hand for my mk4 if it fits...

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    06-13-2012 04:10 PM #291
    will not fit
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    06-29-2012 12:18 AM #292
    Quick question for those that have installed these in a 04 R..

    Are the spacers for the transmission mount bigger than the opposite side engine mount? Or all the same?

    Want to clear something up. Thanks
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    06-29-2012 12:35 AM #293
    You don't make any sense, and it's not even IMHO, it's science. If you want the motor to move less... then it is going to transmit more movement/vibration the to uni body. End of story. I still think the biggest issue with any of these mount is people not installing them correctly and binding everything up.

    Quote Originally Posted by kevhayward View Post
    I stumbled onto this thread via DLI's website. Some very good info in here.

    I've been considering these mounts for quite some time and after reading the reviews on here, it's a dead cert now

    I note with interest the mixed opinions on VF's motor mounts. I tried them once, a long time ago, and took them off almost immediately as they were truly awful.
    I just understand the point of them, or mounts like them. The role of a motor mount is to absorb and dissipate the energy of 180Kg of dead weight jumping about on them. VF mounts do nothing of the sort. Instead they transfer this energy to other parts of the car. Back in the day when we were playing with solid mounts, things used to fracture and break because the mount wasn't doing what it was supposed to do.

    So it's a refreshing change to see a motor mount company thinking outside the box

    FWIW, the mounts I'm currently using are Vibratechnics, which are also very good. Not sure if you guys get them in the states? But I want that little extra now.

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    06-29-2012 12:49 AM #294
    i sometimes really don't understand why R32 guys complain about vibrations,i been in lots of r32s with soilid mounts all around and barely noticed any vibrations,try that with a 1.8t and ac running
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    06-29-2012 12:49 AM #295
    When I first had by vf mounts installed it shook like hell... Its now 6 months layer and there no vibration whatsoever w

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    06-29-2012 12:52 AM #296
    Not being a jerk but you probably had them installed with some binding. Mine never had shaking, a bit extra vibration but nothing more.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnymooshoo View Post
    When I first had by vf mounts installed it shook like hell... Its now 6 months layer and there no vibration whatsoever w

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    06-29-2012 12:11 PM #297
    Quote Originally Posted by VRptstyly View Post
    Quick question for those that have installed these in a 04 R..

    Are the spacers for the transmission mount bigger than the opposite side engine mount? Or all the same?

    Want to clear something up. Thanks
    I got my answer from DLI.. I went VF dogbone too, mounts feel great. I was in desperate need of some new mounts.
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    07-11-2012 11:11 PM #298
    Well after saying I was going to get these over 2 years ago, I finally got my mounts and installed and love them.

    Vibrations are minimal maybe a touch around 2k rpm but that's all I noticed and I was really looking for it. Nothing you'd notice driving normally. Small bit of gear whine like others have said but I like that. Getting on it and switching gears is effortless. Can't recommend them enough.
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    07-21-2012 02:15 PM #299
    I finally got a chance to install the DLI mounts I picked up out of the classifieds with the replacement parts I had to order from DLI.

    I have to agree with the other reviews and comments. There is no added vibration but quite a bit of added noise. It makes driving the R a much more visceral experience which I find very appealing. They also seem to have tamed the clunk I was getting when lifting off the throttle while in a steady cruise.

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    08-07-2012 01:17 PM #300
    180$
    website lists each mount for 1850$ DEK which equals 275$.

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    08-07-2012 01:51 PM #301
    Any talk about price needs to consider that the US dollar isnt exactly what you would call 'strong' at the moment...

    Great for us folks that want to buy parts from the USA though
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    08-07-2012 01:55 PM #302
    Quote Originally Posted by jmh2002 View Post
    Any talk about price needs to consider that the US dollar isnt exactly what you would call 'strong' at the moment...

    Great for us folks that want to buy parts from the USA though
    yeah i consider my simple math to be pretty good thats why i don't understand how people ever came up with 180$

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerd View Post
    yeah i consider my simple math to be pretty good thats why i don't understand how people ever came up with 180$
    PM replied. Price in April 2011 to the USA not including shipping, any import duties, or sales taxes was approx USD 377 (working back from what I paid in europe, not what DLI quoted USA customers), so I guess that is where the original suggestion of around USD 180 per mount came from.

    Since then the exchange rate for USA customers has improved, but the cost of the mounts has also gone up in europe.

    Your price of SEK 1850 per mount includes VAT s far as I am aware, so there is roughly 20% to take off that estimate, so, around SEK 1550 per mount from my calculations.

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    08-09-2012 07:35 PM #304
    You wanna play you gotta pay. Damn cheap skates. haha
    And as far as VF mounts compared to the DLI's the VF's are garbage

  25. 08-09-2012 09:30 PM #305
    Quote Originally Posted by bluebomb3r View Post
    You wanna play you gotta pay. Damn cheap skates. haha
    And as far as VF mounts compared to the DLI's the VF's are garbage
    I didn't like the DLI's and it pissed me off as after all the positive experiences on here I thought they were the end all mounts. I am back on the VF's. The DLI's gave me more vibration then the VF's and also much more engine movement.

    I am glad everyone else is having a better experience then I did with the DLI's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 95GLX View Post
    I didn't like the DLI's and it pissed me off as after all the positive experiences on here I thought they were the end all mounts. I am back on the VF's. The DLI's gave me more vibration then the VF's and also much more engine movement.

    I am glad everyone else is having a better experience then I did with the DLI's.
    Had my DLI mounts on for two weeks and they didnt hold the boosted motor into place to my liking either, To much movement for the power i am making.But was also noticeable in daily driving as well . Went back to vfs but ordered derlin to install into them soon. hopefully I'll like them. Otherwise back to once a year bushing replacement
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    08-09-2012 10:23 PM #307
    I wonder if it is a turbo / non turbo thing?

    I watched my engine while dynoing at 2 different places and it barely moves...


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    08-10-2012 12:16 AM #308
    Ive tried the VF's twice. They felt good for around 2k. After that you might as well run stock mounts. End of story

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    08-10-2012 03:13 AM #309
    R32.Deviant is running VibraTechnik mounts on his HPA Blackjack Turbo in England. they ar about 400 per mount... no dogbone iirc... but am unsure.

    Im thinking about trying them out. I was hesiteant about the DLI mounts with Boost, but i think im gonna save and use the VFs for now.

    James- let us know how u like the Delrin option for the VF mounts.

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    08-10-2012 12:05 PM #310
    Quote Originally Posted by PowerDubs View Post
    I wonder if it is a turbo / non turbo thing?

    I watched my engine while dynoing at 2 different places and it barely moves...


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  31. 08-10-2012 08:06 PM #311
    Quote Originally Posted by BOUDAH View Post
    R32.Deviant is running VibraTechnik mounts on his HPA Blackjack Turbo in England. they ar about 400 per mount... no dogbone iirc... but am unsure.

    Im thinking about trying them out. I was hesiteant about the DLI mounts with Boost, but i think im gonna save and use the VFs for now.

    James- let us know how u like the Delrin option for the VF mounts.
    The Norwegian guy posted above that he is using these with 700+ WHP with no issues.

    I did everything I could to make these work in my car (550 BHP) with 3 different dogbone set ups; stock, stock with inserts and VF's with fresh bushings. I even double checked all my bolts, transition pieces and bolt holes. Nothing stripped, nothing loose, nothing missing, everything torqued 100% by the book. They just didn't work for my application.

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    08-12-2012 01:27 AM #312
    oh, somehow i think i missed that.

    Well see i guess, I still have other stuff to do prior to me putting the motor back in.. so luckily for me i have time

  33. 08-12-2012 09:16 AM #313
    Quote Originally Posted by Norwegian-VR6 View Post
    This car has been using DLI since 2008-2009. Still holding up perfect.
    Dynoed to 796whp and 880nm.........

    http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthrea...Sweden.-634Whp!
    Shedding a little light on this.

    The car this is referring to is a MK3 not an MKIV R32. That is not a good comparison as the mount set ups are completely different.

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    08-12-2012 09:45 AM #314
    @95GLX:

    I was just wondering, with the dissatisfaction that you had, did you have any discussions with DLI Teknik about the issues? Did they provide any feedback?
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  35. 08-12-2012 12:01 PM #315
    Quote Originally Posted by jmh2002 View Post
    @95GLX:

    I was just wondering, with the dissatisfaction that you had, did you have any discussions with DLI Teknik about the issues? Did they provide any feedback?
    It was just to double check the install and make sure I had a good dogbone with the VF being reccomended, all things I had already done. It would have either worked or not worked for me and these just didn't work for me. I think the normally aspirated folks will have great success with these. Those that are doing forced induction should give it thorough consideration. I am just hoping I am the only freak that has an issue with these.

    It is a great product, I just think there may be a horsepower/torque limit. I sold mine but if anyone is in Eastern, NC and wants to swap mounts to compare DLI's to anything else then I am available. Again, I am back on VF's mounts.

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