i was waiting to see new jetta i guess its cool but i like the suzuki kizashi better plus it seems you get more for the money.
#71
2.0 engine never stopped production.
VW still sells 2.0 equpped VW's in North American Market. Ever heard of Canada? http://www.vw.ca/ca/en_ca/models/city_golf.html
Golf City is sold in Canada in 2010 and it should look somewhat familiar.
2.0 in the base 2011 Jetta is the same 115 hp 2.0 that we love and remember.
#72
i was waiting to see new jetta i guess its cool but i like the suzuki kizashi better plus it seems you get more for the money.
#73
Just logged on, this looks fantastic! I'm excited, only drawback for me are the tail lights, which would look better if they weren't so similar to the new ugly audi tails
#75
GLI better look like the below.
Not sure why but, with the whole unveiling it kinda reminded me of a late nineties Toyota Camry.![]()
#76
Well the styling certainly doesn't wow me in the least, and I too was hoping for a little more uniqueness in the sheetmetal...especially after the MKV debacle. This thing will quietly go about its business and fade into the background. I can't help but feel VW has dragged the Jetta downmarket, and I think they're doing the nameplate a disservice. Isn't that what the Polo is for afterall...to capture the $15,000 crowd??
Two things stand out to me concerning the styling. First, I think the interior actually looks lower rent than the MKV. The gauge cluster in particular looks downright plain and cheap. Hop into the MKVI Golf or GTI, and the interior is just executed perfectly. The Jetta should have adopted the Golf and GTI interior...much better-looking in my opinion. And secondly, what's with the chrome strip only along the bottom edge of the windows? It looks very odd to me. It would look much better if the chrome wrapped around the tops of the doors as well. Or better yet, just make the whole trim black for consistency.
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#77
Very nice. Sort of like a mini Audi A4....but I was really hoping the announcement would be they were giving us the Scirocco. I'll keep dreaming....
#79
Totally looks like the B8 A4 in the rear, first thing caught my eye. And holy wheel gap batman! Ugh are they really that high stock? The front needs to look like the concept coupe more. I always thought the Thunder Bunny body kit looked great on the MKV, a la TDI Cup Edition, what happened to that concept? I am holding reservation for the GLI, christ it better look better. Otherwise I am going over to the Audi or BMW camp.
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#81
So would people prefer a CrossFox cluster instead?
and they get the full MFA
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#82
they lost there touch completely what the **** were they thinking.... it looks nothing like a volkswagen and thats very sad... and to think it took me awhile to get use to the mKv this is just garbage in my opinion...![]()
#83
Personally ... I think it looks more like a Volkswagen, has more Volkswagen DNA than the Mk V did. Black grille, no massive headlights, crisp lines rather than soft contours, and understated styling. That's all VW.
A4 tail? Similar (though nowhere near identical) taillight shape, otherwise the design is different.
Gauge cluster? I like the understated gauge cluster without chrome embellishments -- it's what a VW gauge cluster should look like. And I also don't mind the chrome trim only along the bottom of the doors. Moderation in chrome bits -- leave the massive overchroming to Ford.
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#85
While cheap, this car comes with features that the Audi A4 doesn't offer in its base trim.
-The ski pass through (A4 only has 60/40 rear split in the US)
-The keyless push button start. You have to upgrade to the top of the line $40k+ "Prestige" trim on the A4 to get that.
The wood trim tends to ruin the "value" image though. The 2.0L won't be fast at all, my 23+ year old car will likely outrun it (its lighter). They could have put a more modern port injected 16V DOHC engine in there for better fuel economy and power. Hopefully they at least pair it with a modern 6 speed automatic. I don't see why people are comparing it to the Honda Fit, this car is much bigger. Why isn't this being built in the US, wasn't that the point in investing in that big TN plant? (which turned out to be a bad hedge since the Euro dropped)
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#86
It also says the 140hp TDI engine is new which it is not. It is the same 115hp engine used in the Golf City in Canada. That engine only manages to get the Golf City to 60 in 10.4 seconds for the manual and 11.7 seconds for the automatic. No way to tell for sure how performance will be in the new Jetta but consider the Golf City weighs considerably less. That is not a good sign. Volkswagen has stated combined fuel economy for the new Jetta as 26 for the automatic and 28 for the manual with the 115hp engine.
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#88
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#90
What do we all expect for a base model? Im confused.
In one aspect I like how it is the 2.0, because it will be reliable, and something that everyone will be able to afford. But yet at the same time, I wish that this was equiped with the 1.8t, or at least a 2.5 base model.
I DONT like the gagues. They look so fake. Ive always liked VDubs styling because it was set apart from all the other stuff thats out there, and now it just looks fake, like plastic.
The front end, im not a huge fan of, something is just off to me.. But i do think that the car flows very well.
All in all I think that this car will be a hit. Slam it/Bag it put some decent wheels on it, and it will be a beaut.
And I am anxious to see the GLI, maybe a Coupe?
Wishfull thinking!
#91
Not sure i like the front end...
Looks like VW cheaped out and went GM style on the rear trunk hinges...
Interior looks decent...
#92
All this wait for "meh" styling.
Let's see what the GLI looks like.
#93
Try and market a 115hp car against Toyota, Honda and the others....good luck. This engine will FAIL unless it is tuned to at least 135-140hp.
And no one has officially stated that this is the old 8v 2.slow engine, have they? What if it is the 2.0 turbo not turbocharged at 150hp, like the one in other markets non American?
#94
Everytime I look at the new Jetta, I can't help but think Accord. Very similar lines as the last two models. Not saying that the Accord is a bad looking car, at all, but I was hoping for more originality. Not sure why it's no longer based off of the Golf anymore, but to each his own.
I do love the 2.0l idea, that there will be a ''small'', cheap to repair engine in the market again, but for now, I think I'll stick to my mki Rabbit.
#95
I think we bought VW's because we liked the european styling and characteristics that made them somewhat unique as cars. VW will fail trying to homogenize the brand to become the perfect faux 'North American' marketing wet-dream. Step to the back of the line with Kia, Hyundai, Toyota... !
Simply mind-numbing.
#96
Great, a Camccord. Just what the world needs another boat.
Not to mention it will be the slowest boat at the boring family dock.
VW used to an alternative to the blandness out there, now they are selling a Jetta with fake wood on the dash.
This and the supersizing of the A4 have left me disturbed. Now, it appears that nobody wants my money. I guess I will keep my B7 until the wheels fall off.
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#100
Then whats the point of the start/stop button then? The Passat and A4 have the same slot, except you insert the fob and push the fob itself to start/stop the car. Advanced key systems with push button start aren't unheard of in this price point, Nissan sells a lot of sub-$20k cars with it.
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#103
I rented a Nissan Altima on a business trip that had the keyless push button start. As long as the key was somewhere in the car you can use the button to start it. It had a slot for the key but it was not needed... Guess they kept a place to put the key out of tradition?
On that note, the Altima looks way cooler than the Jetta VI... (not to mention quicker)
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#104
Having owned a 2008 Ford Focus for a year - I can definitely say that is the current competiton for this car. Based on the cost cutting, and engine models the Focus will be a good competitor.
The things I grew accustomed to owning a VW really bothered me in a Focus, ie. the cheap trunk finish, cheap interior, terrible engine, etc.
Another competitor would be the new Chevy Cruze too
http://www.autoblog.com/2010/06/15/t...-jetta-w-poll/
autoblog referenced.
#105
The Dodge Caliber comes with a a outside temp guage... and a Jetta SEL won't?
Really?
How much money did they save by not installing a 1 inch large screen and include that.
I love having that feature on both of my cars.