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    Thread: Sixth Generation Volkswagen Jetta Debuts - Official Pics!

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      06-15-2010 02:20 PM #26
      Quote Originally Posted by phorever View Post
      Looks good! I LOVE LOVE LOVE that the good'ole 2.0 is back! No more replacing camshafts at 60,000 miles!

      The whole line is getting a bit large though...Now we need something smaller!
      i like it but this is true...just as the Audi A4 got larger there needs to be a Polo/Polo Sedan and A3/A3 sedan. There is beginning and will continue to be a smaller car movement and VW needs something to fill out the bottom now (and it doesn't need to be a bargain basement item, either) Need to see the new Jetta in person and see some weight figures, but it may be too big for my needs now.
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    2. 06-15-2010 02:23 PM #27
      Agreed I was so hoping they'd bring the polo GTI to the US to fill in the sub-compact market thats growing in the US. I mean ford brought back the fiesta for christs sake....
      Farewell thee my 16 Vee, you were oh so good to me. Now I less than three my VR C.

    3. 06-15-2010 02:26 PM #28
      oh and do the bottom range cars go back to a torsion rear end vs IRS?

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      06-15-2010 02:29 PM #29
      All Jetta engines will be offered with a manual transmission as standard equipment.


      The 2.0 is a winner only if it offers class-leading fuel economy. VW had a non-turbo 2.0 direct-injected engine in Europe which would do that, but somehow I doubt that's what we'll get getting.

      This car is being built in Tennessee, right?

      I find it curious that the photos and video were shot in Japan.

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      06-15-2010 02:30 PM #30
      So um. With the new dimensions, isn't this just a new Passat with a lower price point?

      I would love to see the whole NA product planning picture, and what segments they are targeting with which vehicles.
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      06-15-2010 03:16 PM #31
      viva la 2.0

      But yes I assume this is a non-turbo version of the mk5's 2.0 FSI rather than the ol' ABA/AEG straight-outta-'99 8-valve we know & love so much
      (fvck you haters! )

      Sad to see the Jetta mk6 will not share a platform with the Golf for the 1st time ever ... and bigger, great .. guess it's all part of VWoA's NMS market-research, though.

      As a non-Jetta fan, I'm just happy the TDI finally made it into the Golf again.
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      06-15-2010 04:07 PM #33
      Quote Originally Posted by Troike View Post
      viva la 2.0

      But yes I assume this is a non-turbo version of the mk5's 2.0 FSI rather than the ol' ABA/AEG straight-outta-'99 8-valve we know & love so much
      (fvck you haters! )
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      06-15-2010 04:47 PM #34
      I was really excited to see/hear about the MKVI Jetta. However, just like when the MKV debuted, it's gonna take me some getting used to

      And for all the haters bitchin' about the 2.0...I'm sure they've never even driven a MKIV Jetta powered by one. IMO they're reliable, efficient, and cheap to maintain. What more could you want from a BASE engine?

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    9. 06-15-2010 05:06 PM #35
      North americans just have to get their heads out of the sand!
      What does VW offer Europeans?
      Downsized engines with turbo (and compressor). A 1,4L offers basically the same power (hp and torque) as the old VR6 with great milage. Why stay in the olden days when technology is moving on.

      From the press release: "Jetta, delivering style, precision German engineering..."

      If this 2,0L turns out to be the old one from the 90's, I will be very disappointed in VW. And it will for sure not be precision engineering, whatever country it is from.

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      06-15-2010 05:28 PM #36
      Quote Originally Posted by Ola View Post
      If this 2,0L turns out to be the old one from the 90's, I will be very disappointed in VW. And it will for sure not be precision engineering, whatever country it is from.
      Get used to disappointment in your life if that's all it takes.

      Do engine designs get less precise with age? Is my Air-cooler less precise than it was 40 years ago?

      The engine is dated, yes. You can dislike it all you want, it's a base engine for people looking almost exclusively at the bottom line. If you like the car and hate the 2.0, just get the 5, TDi or the turbo. What's the difference to you?

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      06-15-2010 05:29 PM #37
      Quote Originally Posted by Blue Turbo View Post
      Huh, dunno if I care too much for the view of the front as seen head on. Looks decent from the other angles though. The interior shots looked promising but where's the full on photos?

      Still can't believe they've brought back the 2.slow. Does that mean we might see the same engine showing up in the Golf VI?
      I doubt they are bringing back the old 2.0 considering that the 2.0 was phased out mostly due to it's age, the harshness etc.. etc.. they are likely going to be offering a non-turboed version of the TSI.. so direct injection and all the goodness with probably around 150hp.

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      06-15-2010 05:31 PM #38
      Quote Originally Posted by vdubchop2k4 View Post
      ok so i really hope that they the 2.0 is a complete revision and hope its at least an 16v cause 8v's is not going to cut it in a chassis that heavy lets be real cause even the 8v in the mk4 that thing could barely get out of its own way
      Wow.. all it takes to make an engine more powerful is more valves? I didn't know... I think I'm going to design a 100valve 4 cyl.. man that would rock.

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      06-15-2010 05:33 PM #39
      Had a great time today, got to meet Katy Perry again, lovely person. Overall the new Jetta is great looking in person. The styling is very low key but the lines are smooth and crisp. Every body panel of the new Jetta flows so well into the other. Can't wait to see one bagged out on Rotiforms!
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      06-15-2010 05:34 PM #40
      very disappointed we're on page 2 and there are no chops of this thing on its belly...

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      06-15-2010 05:37 PM #41
      Quote Originally Posted by Uwe View Post


      The 2.0 is a winner only if it offers class-leading fuel economy. VW had a non-turbo 2.0 direct-injected engine in Europe which would do that, but somehow I doubt that's what we'll get getting.

      This car is being built in Tennessee, right?

      I find it curious that the photos and video were shot in Japan.

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      06-15-2010 05:41 PM #42
      I like the exterior a lot. Sure it's boring and forgettable but it has nice lines that will age well.

      The interior looks better than the leaked one. The center stack with the HVAC controls bothers me. I don't like how it is receded into the panel, it seems poorly designed. I'm nitpicking, but it brings flashbacks of cheapo 90's Japaneses interiors.

      The model is larger than the MK5 because they added length to the backseats. I always had people complain about rear space in older generation Jettas, and this will help the Jetta appeal to the masses. It might be a little too big for my taste however...

      Finally, I just don't understand the rational for reviving the old 2.0. Obviously VW is trying to keep the price down, but the 2.0 can't be that much cheaper than using the 2.5 or the old 1.8t. It's also not an efficient engine, which is the entire point of a base model.
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      06-15-2010 05:41 PM #43
      Quote Originally Posted by Ola View Post
      North americans just have to get their heads out of the sand!
      What does VW offer Europeans?
      Downsized engines with turbo (and compressor). A 1,4L offers basically the same power (hp and torque) as the old VR6 with great milage. Why stay in the olden days when technology is moving on.

      From the press release: "Jetta, delivering style, precision German engineering..."

      If this 2,0L turns out to be the old one from the 90's, I will be very disappointed in VW. And it will for sure not be precision engineering, whatever country it is from.
      Europeans also drive much differently then americans. The cars are mostly used in towns or cities, they rarely travel the distances that the average american commuter does. While the 1.4TSI may be a cool engine, would it stand up to the long range mileage that american drivers subject their cars to? If this does turn out to be the old 2.0 I'm sure it will have considerable updates. On the other hand, I thought these engines were out of production, and obviously retooling a factor to build an engine which is not shared with any other platform no matter how much is saved in research and development is not as effective as using an engine which is currently in production and shared with other platforms.

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      06-15-2010 05:42 PM #44
      Quote Originally Posted by Air and water do mix View Post
      Get used to disappointment in your life if that's all it takes.

      Do engine designs get less precise with age? Is my Air-cooler less precise than it was 40 years ago?

      The engine is dated, yes. You can dislike it all you want, it's a base engine for people looking almost exclusively at the bottom line. If you like the car and hate the 2.0, just get the 5, TDi or the turbo. What's the difference to you?
      The engine is also out of production, the factories which built them have been retooled for newer products. I cannot see VW putting an engine back into production simply for the NA market.

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      06-15-2010 05:51 PM #45
      body looks 'ok' but cant wait to see if theres a gli

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      06-15-2010 05:54 PM #46
      ya the GLI should look siiick.

      Any p-shop attempts anyone??

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      06-15-2010 06:10 PM #48
      Quote Originally Posted by Tom@VMG View Post
      Since the new Jetta won't go on sale till September/October later this year, there are some details that haven't been announced - final pricing, fuel economy figures and more.[/i]
      Actually, the VW international press release does mention fuel economy.

      The 115hp 2.0 is rated 28 mpg combined - that's 1 mpg shy of a Corolla and Civic, and 4mpg better than the MK4 with the 2.0. It also says the 2.0 is a "new engine".

      https://www.volkswagen-media-service...tlichkeit.html

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      06-15-2010 06:25 PM #49
      I didn't read the whole VWvortex article but read another release and apparently the old beam rear suspension is coming back too except on the GLI? Talk about taking a step back. I was really looking foward to a MKVI chassis based Jetta coupe, I thought that would be cool. Hopefully VW offers a smaller sedan or brings the Polo over or something. VW keeps teasing me with cool concepts ( Jetta Coupe, all the sports car concepts) and then making cool cars and not bringing them to the USA (Golf R, Scirocco, Polo)

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      06-15-2010 06:35 PM #50
      the 2.0L could be based on the 2.5L, with a cylinder lopped off.

      since us owners with direct injection are concerned with the inevitable clogged intake manifolds... the last thing VW needs is that type of costly maintenance concerns for the volume model.
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