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    Thread: Sixth Generation Volkswagen Jetta Debuts - Official Pics!

    1. 06-15-2010 08:46 PM #71
      Quote Originally Posted by sys3175 View Post
      The engine is also out of production, the factories which built them have been retooled for newer products. I cannot see VW putting an engine back into production simply for the NA market.
      2.0 engine never stopped production.
      VW still sells 2.0 equpped VW's in North American Market. Ever heard of Canada? http://www.vw.ca/ca/en_ca/models/city_golf.html
      Golf City is sold in Canada in 2010 and it should look somewhat familiar.

      2.0 in the base 2011 Jetta is the same 115 hp 2.0 that we love and remember.

    2. 06-15-2010 08:51 PM #72
      i was waiting to see new jetta i guess its cool but i like the suzuki kizashi better plus it seems you get more for the money.

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      06-15-2010 08:52 PM #73
      Just logged on, this looks fantastic! I'm excited, only drawback for me are the tail lights, which would look better if they weren't so similar to the new ugly audi tails

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      06-15-2010 08:53 PM #74
      Anyone Photo shop a GLI look yet?

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      06-15-2010 08:57 PM #75
      GLI better look like the below.



      Not sure why but, with the whole unveiling it kinda reminded me of a late nineties Toyota Camry.

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      06-15-2010 09:15 PM #76
      Well the styling certainly doesn't wow me in the least, and I too was hoping for a little more uniqueness in the sheetmetal...especially after the MKV debacle. This thing will quietly go about its business and fade into the background. I can't help but feel VW has dragged the Jetta downmarket, and I think they're doing the nameplate a disservice. Isn't that what the Polo is for afterall...to capture the $15,000 crowd??

      Two things stand out to me concerning the styling. First, I think the interior actually looks lower rent than the MKV. The gauge cluster in particular looks downright plain and cheap. Hop into the MKVI Golf or GTI, and the interior is just executed perfectly. The Jetta should have adopted the Golf and GTI interior...much better-looking in my opinion. And secondly, what's with the chrome strip only along the bottom edge of the windows? It looks very odd to me. It would look much better if the chrome wrapped around the tops of the doors as well. Or better yet, just make the whole trim black for consistency.
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      06-15-2010 09:29 PM #77
      Very nice. Sort of like a mini Audi A4....but I was really hoping the announcement would be they were giving us the Scirocco. I'll keep dreaming....

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      06-15-2010 09:35 PM #78
      Horrible...just horrible What was VW thinking

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      06-15-2010 10:19 PM #79
      Totally looks like the B8 A4 in the rear, first thing caught my eye. And holy wheel gap batman! Ugh are they really that high stock? The front needs to look like the concept coupe more. I always thought the Thunder Bunny body kit looked great on the MKV, a la TDI Cup Edition, what happened to that concept? I am holding reservation for the GLI, christ it better look better. Otherwise I am going over to the Audi or BMW camp.

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      06-15-2010 10:51 PM #80
      It looks a little like the Ford Fusion.

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      06-15-2010 10:55 PM #81
      So would people prefer a CrossFox cluster instead?



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      06-15-2010 11:01 PM #82
      they lost there touch completely what the **** were they thinking.... it looks nothing like a volkswagen and thats very sad... and to think it took me awhile to get use to the mKv this is just garbage in my opinion...

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      06-15-2010 11:21 PM #83
      Quote Originally Posted by v_dub89 View Post
      they lost there touch completely what the **** were they thinking.... it looks nothing like a volkswagen and thats very sad... and to think it took me awhile to get use to the mKv this is just garbage in my opinion...
      Personally ... I think it looks more like a Volkswagen, has more Volkswagen DNA than the Mk V did. Black grille, no massive headlights, crisp lines rather than soft contours, and understated styling. That's all VW.

      A4 tail? Similar (though nowhere near identical) taillight shape, otherwise the design is different.

      Gauge cluster? I like the understated gauge cluster without chrome embellishments -- it's what a VW gauge cluster should look like. And I also don't mind the chrome trim only along the bottom of the doors. Moderation in chrome bits -- leave the massive overchroming to Ford.

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      06-15-2010 11:39 PM #84
      Quote Originally Posted by BsickPassat View Post


      It's sporty. Remember the 2000+ Celica? It is digital coolant & fuel gauge

      The Cobalt has digital coolant temp gauge (but the Aveo has the analog ones)

      The Yaris is missing the analog fuel/temp gauges

      The Accent is missing the analog fuel/temp gauges

      The Forte is missing the analog temp gauge......

      The New Beetle has an idiot light for the coolant temp
      Kind of sad we now have to compare it to the Yaris, Cobalt, etc. rather than the Corolla and Civic it was designed to compete with.

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      06-15-2010 11:45 PM #85
      While cheap, this car comes with features that the Audi A4 doesn't offer in its base trim.

      -The ski pass through (A4 only has 60/40 rear split in the US)

      -The keyless push button start. You have to upgrade to the top of the line $40k+ "Prestige" trim on the A4 to get that.

      The wood trim tends to ruin the "value" image though. The 2.0L won't be fast at all, my 23+ year old car will likely outrun it (its lighter). They could have put a more modern port injected 16V DOHC engine in there for better fuel economy and power. Hopefully they at least pair it with a modern 6 speed automatic. I don't see why people are comparing it to the Honda Fit, this car is much bigger. Why isn't this being built in the US, wasn't that the point in investing in that big TN plant? (which turned out to be a bad hedge since the Euro dropped)
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      06-15-2010 11:46 PM #86
      Quote Originally Posted by Hajduk View Post
      Actually, the VW international press release does mention fuel economy.

      The 115hp 2.0 is rated 28 mpg combined - that's 1 mpg shy of a Corolla and Civic, and 4mpg better than the MK4 with the 2.0. It also says the 2.0 is a "new engine".

      https://www.volkswagen-media-service...tlichkeit.html
      It also says the 140hp TDI engine is new which it is not. It is the same 115hp engine used in the Golf City in Canada. That engine only manages to get the Golf City to 60 in 10.4 seconds for the manual and 11.7 seconds for the automatic. No way to tell for sure how performance will be in the new Jetta but consider the Golf City weighs considerably less. That is not a good sign. Volkswagen has stated combined fuel economy for the new Jetta as 26 for the automatic and 28 for the manual with the 115hp engine.

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      06-16-2010 12:18 AM #87
      Quote Originally Posted by NJRoadfan View Post
      Why isn't this being built in the US, wasn't that the point in investing in that big TN plant? (which turned out to be a bad hedge since the Euro dropped)
      Because (1) the TN factory isn't ready, (2) the TN factory won't have enough capacity, at least initially, and (3) the Puebla plant has capacity, low costs and good quality.

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      06-16-2010 12:34 AM #88
      Quote Originally Posted by NJRoadfan View Post

      -The keyless push button start. You have to upgrade to the top of the line $40k+ "Prestige" trim on the A4 to get that.
      It's not keyless. See the rectangular slot in the steering column? That's where the key goes

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    19. 06-16-2010 12:57 AM #89
      Viva la 2.0 !

      I can't wait for a base model !

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      06-16-2010 04:10 AM #90
      What do we all expect for a base model? Im confused.
      In one aspect I like how it is the 2.0, because it will be reliable, and something that everyone will be able to afford. But yet at the same time, I wish that this was equiped with the 1.8t, or at least a 2.5 base model.
      I DONT like the gagues. They look so fake. Ive always liked VDubs styling because it was set apart from all the other stuff thats out there, and now it just looks fake, like plastic.
      The front end, im not a huge fan of, something is just off to me.. But i do think that the car flows very well.
      All in all I think that this car will be a hit. Slam it/Bag it put some decent wheels on it, and it will be a beaut.
      And I am anxious to see the GLI, maybe a Coupe?
      Wishfull thinking!

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      06-16-2010 06:05 AM #91
      Not sure i like the front end...

      Looks like VW cheaped out and went GM style on the rear trunk hinges...

      Interior looks decent...

    22. 06-16-2010 08:25 AM #92
      All this wait for "meh" styling.

      Let's see what the GLI looks like.

    23. 06-16-2010 09:11 AM #93
      Quote Originally Posted by Air and water do mix View Post
      Barely get out of it's own way? Really? What are you, 16?

      The first V8 chevy had all of 150 horsepower and this Jetta would likely keep up with it. Just because some people are spoiled with hp doesn't take away from the fact that some people want a cheap car and a tractor-simple 4 popper is a great way to get them into your showroom and into a new car.

      If you want more power, judy pony up for the 5 banger and stop bitching, it's not like there isn't an option. If it were the only engine available, you'd have a gripe, but it isn't and you don't.
      Try and market a 115hp car against Toyota, Honda and the others....good luck. This engine will FAIL unless it is tuned to at least 135-140hp.

      And no one has officially stated that this is the old 8v 2.slow engine, have they? What if it is the 2.0 turbo not turbocharged at 150hp, like the one in other markets non American?

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      06-16-2010 10:51 AM #94
      Everytime I look at the new Jetta, I can't help but think Accord. Very similar lines as the last two models. Not saying that the Accord is a bad looking car, at all, but I was hoping for more originality. Not sure why it's no longer based off of the Golf anymore, but to each his own.

      I do love the 2.0l idea, that there will be a ''small'', cheap to repair engine in the market again, but for now, I think I'll stick to my mki Rabbit.

    25. 06-16-2010 11:18 AM #95
      I think we bought VW's because we liked the european styling and characteristics that made them somewhat unique as cars. VW will fail trying to homogenize the brand to become the perfect faux 'North American' marketing wet-dream. Step to the back of the line with Kia, Hyundai, Toyota... !

      Simply mind-numbing.

    26. 06-16-2010 11:34 AM #96
      Great, a Camccord. Just what the world needs another boat.

      Not to mention it will be the slowest boat at the boring family dock.

      VW used to an alternative to the blandness out there, now they are selling a Jetta with fake wood on the dash.

      This and the supersizing of the A4 have left me disturbed. Now, it appears that nobody wants my money. I guess I will keep my B7 until the wheels fall off.

    27. 06-16-2010 11:59 AM #97
      Quote Originally Posted by AliensWanted View Post
      Try and market a 115hp car against Toyota, Honda and the others....good luck. This engine will FAIL unless it is tuned to at least 135-140hp.

      And no one has officially stated that this is the old 8v 2.slow engine, have they? What if it is the 2.0 turbo not turbocharged at 150hp, like the one in other markets non American?
      VWoA officially stated the 2.0L engine was 115 HP.


      What if it is the 2.0 turbo not turbocharged at 150hp, like the one in other markets non American?

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      06-16-2010 12:10 PM #98
      Quote Originally Posted by mixedpartsbmx View Post
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      The rear end of the new Jetta looks similar to the MK3. The Jetta 4 looked small compared to the 3, as did the 5, but the 6 looks pretty big now.

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      06-16-2010 12:30 PM #99
      Quote Originally Posted by TWinbrook46636 View Post
      Kind of sad we now have to compare it to the Yaris, Cobalt, etc. rather than the Corolla and Civic it was designed to compete with.

      This is HORRIBLE !!! Tell me only the base model would have it.

      Man I'm buying a 2010 TDI.

      Car looks fine but those small cut cost are killing it.

      Oh man K. Perry is H O T.
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      06-16-2010 12:44 PM #100
      Quote Originally Posted by BsickPassat View Post
      It's not keyless. See the rectangular slot in the steering column? That's where the key goes

      Then whats the point of the start/stop button then? The Passat and A4 have the same slot, except you insert the fob and push the fob itself to start/stop the car. Advanced key systems with push button start aren't unheard of in this price point, Nissan sells a lot of sub-$20k cars with it.
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    31. 06-16-2010 12:51 PM #101
      Quote Originally Posted by Peter Tong View Post
      Not sure i like the front end...

      Looks like VW cheaped out and went GM style on the rear trunk hinges...

      Interior looks decent...
      At first I was like


      Then I was like

    32. 06-16-2010 12:53 PM #102
      Quote Originally Posted by NJRoadfan View Post
      Then whats the point of the start/stop button then? The Passat and A4 have the same slot, except you insert the fob and push the fob itself to start/stop the car. Advanced key systems with push button start aren't unheard of in this price point, Nissan sells a lot of sub-$20k cars with it.
      IMO, it's a stupid feature anyway.

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      06-16-2010 01:05 PM #103
      Quote Originally Posted by NJRoadfan View Post
      Then whats the point of the start/stop button then? The Passat and A4 have the same slot, except you insert the fob and push the fob itself to start/stop the car. Advanced key systems with push button start aren't unheard of in this price point, Nissan sells a lot of sub-$20k cars with it.
      I rented a Nissan Altima on a business trip that had the keyless push button start. As long as the key was somewhere in the car you can use the button to start it. It had a slot for the key but it was not needed... Guess they kept a place to put the key out of tradition?

      On that note, the Altima looks way cooler than the Jetta VI... (not to mention quicker)

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      06-16-2010 01:16 PM #104
      Having owned a 2008 Ford Focus for a year - I can definitely say that is the current competiton for this car. Based on the cost cutting, and engine models the Focus will be a good competitor.

      The things I grew accustomed to owning a VW really bothered me in a Focus, ie. the cheap trunk finish, cheap interior, terrible engine, etc.

      Another competitor would be the new Chevy Cruze too

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      06-16-2010 01:20 PM #105
      The Dodge Caliber comes with a a outside temp guage... and a Jetta SEL won't?
      Really?
      How much money did they save by not installing a 1 inch large screen and include that.
      I love having that feature on both of my cars.

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