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    Thread: Mobile Speed Cameras launched in NSW

    1. 07-18-2010 08:15 AM #51
      Quote Originally Posted by mdt View Post
      His response was that the research that they had received suggested that people who get advanced driver training eventually forget or lose their skills, but their sense of being "a good driver" stays with them forever and they are actually at greater risk of being involved in an accident.
      that's bs! haha

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      07-18-2010 08:30 AM #52
      Quote Originally Posted by Jim Bookie View Post
      that's bs! haha
      I would have thought so, but perhaps our belief in our superior driving skills supports the theory.
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    3. 07-18-2010 09:26 AM #53
      so by "eventually", do they mean when the subject hits 70 years of age?

      edit: just watching the moto gp in germany.....
      i think this is the sickest circuit i've ever seen!
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      07-18-2010 10:11 AM #54
      Get reading folks, here's the list:

      http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/roadsafety...tions_0710.pdf
      Quattro drivers do it on all fours....

    5. 07-18-2010 10:55 AM #55
      Arizona Halts Photo Enforcement of Speed Laws

      The state, the first to adopt such cameras on its highways in October 2008, has become the first to pull the plug, bowing to the wishes of a vocal band of conservative activists who complained that photo enforcement intruded on privacy and was mainly designed to raise money.

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      07-18-2010 11:11 AM #56
      revenue projections from the tickets fell short largely for a simple reason: violators tended to ignore them.

      Less than a third of the 1.2 million tickets issued were paid, and the state collected $78 million, far below the projected $120 million annual revenue.

      Some of those tickets, typically $181 apiece, no doubt were lost in the mail; others no doubt were not paid as violators tested a legal theory that they needed to be served in person. Process servers who were supposed to follow up could hardly keep up with the load.
      There's a lesson to be learnt here...

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      07-18-2010 05:32 PM #57
      Quote Originally Posted by dkr View Post
      There's a lesson to be learnt here...
      I have a friend who adopted that approach. Claimed anyone who paid their parking fines was stupid. Amassed parking and speeding fines to the tune of three or four thousand dollars. Got pulled over for using a mobile phone while driving and was escorted from Balmain in the back of a divvy van.

      As you say, lesson learned.
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    8. 07-18-2010 06:59 PM #58
      Quote Originally Posted by Sloth View Post
      Get reading folks, here's the list:

      http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/roadsafety...tions_0710.pdf
      It would have been quicker to list where they will not be.
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      07-18-2010 08:16 PM #59
      Quote Originally Posted by Tank Engine View Post
      It would have been quicker to list where they will not be.
      True, and that's the point I guess. Given that the number of cameras and the absence of detail on location, most drivers simply elect to stick within the speed limit when driving anywhere across the road network. We went through that process in Victoria. After getting photographed a couple of times in the first six months of the roll-out, you realise that you can't possibly spot or remember all the camera locations so you just slow down wherever you are.

      It's a beautiful thing.
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    10. 07-18-2010 08:22 PM #60
      I'm not fussed since I don't speed and wrt. highway travel it doesn't change the game - highway patrol cars are doing exactly the same job.

      It is the 55km/hr in a 50 zone going down hill etc... like Todd that would give me the sh111ts.
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      07-18-2010 08:41 PM #61
      Quote Originally Posted by Tank Engine View Post
      I'm not fussed since I don't speed and wrt. highway travel it doesn't change the game - highway patrol cars are doing exactly the same job.

      It is the 55km/hr in a 50 zone going down hill etc... like Todd that would give me the sh111ts.
      Agreed. One of the reasons I got rid of the E46 was that it used to pick up speed going down hill even though it was on cruise control.
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      07-18-2010 08:44 PM #62
      Just got a fine the other day for 71 in a 60 zone on Victoria Rd.

      1 Point and $88 or something like that. Classed as 10km/h and under over the limit.
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    13. 07-18-2010 09:35 PM #63
      Quote Originally Posted by elisiX View Post
      Just got a fine the other day for 71 in a 60 zone on Victoria Rd.

      1 Point and $88 or something like that. Classed as 10km/h and under over the limit.
      Can't really complain much about that one. Your speedo would have been showing ~75km/h, and you don't just 'accidentally' go that far over the limit unless you're intentionally not paying attention to your speed.

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      07-18-2010 09:41 PM #64
      Quote Originally Posted by Tank Engine View Post
      It is the 55km/hr in a 50 zone going down hill etc... like Todd that would give me the sh111ts.
      I'll take a picture of the hill on my way to work today... I'm still pissed off! Cuunts. Givent hat you can opt to pay an extra $300 to not have to nominate a driver, I say it is nothing more than a revenue raising exercise and they can all bathe in the money when the road toll continues to grow.

    15. 07-18-2010 10:03 PM #65
      just nominate grimace as the driver.

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      07-19-2010 12:36 AM #66
      Quote Originally Posted by Super 180s View Post
      Can't really complain much about that one. Your speedo would have been showing ~75km/h, and you don't just 'accidentally' go that far over the limit unless you're intentionally not paying attention to your speed.
      Not arguing the point - I did the wrong thing.

      Damn new car and all that

      Just saw a black territory setup like this on Windsor Rd - so not all white!
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    17. 07-19-2010 02:03 AM #67
      so who let's the public decide how many drinks they can consume before they're over .05?
      everybody is different, so standard drinks is just a guide. most people won't take a blood/alcohol reading before they get in and drive. i reckon anybody who is driving, should not drink any alcohol. not one glass. that will be better than farking speed cameras! even one glass of drink impairs one's judgement a great deal more than we are led to believe. and what of all the people who do bongs and then drive, even if it's "just up to the servo"? not good enough.

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      07-19-2010 03:28 AM #68
      Quote Originally Posted by KGB View Post
      - Accidents at the 58 experimental sites where speed limits were lowered increased by 5.4 percent.

      - Accidents at the 41 experimental sites where speed limits were raised decreased by 6.7 percent.
      Your extract, in full:

      # Accidents at the 58 experimental sites where speed limits were lowered increased by 5.4 percent. The level of confidence of this estimate is 44 percent. The 95 percent confidence limits for this estimate ranges from a reduction in accidents of 11 percent to an increase of 26 percent.

      # Accidents at the 41 experimental sites where speed limits were raised decreased by 6.7 percent. The level of confidence of this estimate in 59 percent. The 95 percent confidence limits for this estimate ranges from a reduction in accidents of 21 percent to an increase of 10 percent.

      Not exactly reliable data.

      Quote Originally Posted by KGB View Post
      Matt, decade old government sponsored research doesn't cut it I'm afraid.
      And your source is...

      Report No. FHWA-RD-92-084 October 1992
      U.S. Department of Transportation Research, Development, and Technology
      Federal Highway Administration Turner-Fairbank Highway Research Center
      6300 Georgetown Pike
      McLean, Virginia 22101-2296


      Two decades old government sponsored research.
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      07-19-2010 03:36 AM #69
      How the f*ck does Matt always rope some c*nt into this every time..

      He's trollin f*ck ya's, call him out!

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      07-19-2010 03:40 AM #70
      Quote Originally Posted by Saxton Hale View Post
      How the f*ck does Matt always rope some c*nt into this every time..

      He's trollin f*ck ya's, call him out!
      These threads are the highlight of my Vortex year.
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    21. 07-19-2010 03:43 AM #71
      Maybe but I ain't voting for it in the 2010 poll.
      Where's the Hamster when you need him.

      Edit: Matt, you whole case fails becasue I just saw Harold Scruby has come out in favour of them.

      Also, I'm gunna fit some flashing lights to my wife's Territory so I can park anywhere I dam well please.
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      07-19-2010 03:49 AM #72
      Out of interest, is there any data that links being in excess of the posted speed limit and fatal accidents?

    23. 07-19-2010 05:22 AM #73
      I am sure I just heard on the news, that NSW has a total of 6 of these cameras - and only 1 will be used in Sydney!! I LOL'd.

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      07-19-2010 06:27 AM #74
      Yes, I heard that, too. I do not believe it!

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      07-19-2010 07:39 AM #75
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