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    1. Senior Member Chris16vRocco's Avatar
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      07-31-2010 01:44 PM #1
      This one is a 1980, in Indiana Red. And it hasn't been driven in 15 years. The inspection sticker on the windshield is from 1993, and the license plate expired in 1995.

      The good:
      -Very little rust, despite being from Pennsylvania
      -Paint is pretty shiny
      -Interior is very nice
      -It was stored indoors (in an airplane hangar) since it was last used in the mid 90s

      The bad:
      -Automatic transmission
      -A mouse chewed at the wiring, and the PO didn't quite finish fixing it
      -A/C compressor is locked up (not really a big deal, but this list looked kinda short without it)
      -Dash was replaced with one from a Mk2. However, if I can find a suitable Mk1 dash, I'll have another decent dash for one of my Mk2s.

      And so, on with the pics! These are from after I washed 15 years of dust off of it this morning.








      The worst of the rust:



      I put a battery in it this morning so I could see what works and what doesn't.

      What works:
      -Interior light
      -Radio
      -Blower motor
      -Headlights
      -Turn signals
      -Front wiper

      What doesn't work:
      -Rear lights
      -Fuel pump

      Also, I found a jumper wire going to the radiator fan, so I suspect that the fan switch is bad. I'll have to check that out later. Gotta get it running first.
      Deal with it.
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      07-31-2010 02:27 PM #2
      Good catch!
      Congrats.

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      07-31-2010 02:44 PM #3
      So this is the Mk1 you were telling me about at Cincy! Cool to see you nabbed it. I'm sure you'll have no problem finding a nice Mk dash for it.

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      07-31-2010 02:45 PM #4
      'Seems like a fair number of nice Mk1's have been turning up lately

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      07-31-2010 03:34 PM #5
      Wow, it looks in pretty nice shape. Good score!

    6. 07-31-2010 04:24 PM #6
      What a beauty! If that is the worst of the rust you have on that color car you are very blessed! That paint seems to have held up well. SOOO jealous of the red interior!
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      07-31-2010 04:31 PM #7
      Lower it.
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      07-31-2010 04:50 PM #8
      Thanks everybody.

      I think the condition of the body owes to the fact that it's spent half it's life thus far in indoor storage. I hadn't seen it in daylight until today, and I honestly was not expecting it to be anywhere near this nice.


      Quote Originally Posted by Mtl-Marc View Post
      Lower it.
      This will be happening for sure.
      Deal with it.
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      07-31-2010 05:12 PM #9
      great find there Chris

      now put a 4K tranmissoin in it and drive it
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      07-31-2010 06:20 PM #10
      Sweet find there

      SII dash looks funny in there.

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      07-31-2010 06:28 PM #11
      Great find Chris. So, two of each now? Going to be hard deciding which to bring to each gathering now. How does it look underneath?

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      07-31-2010 07:55 PM #12
      Very nice find, seems a lot of nice mk1s have been popping up lately
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      07-31-2010 08:24 PM #13
      Quote Originally Posted by crazyaboutrocs View Post
      Great find Chris. So, two of each now? Going to be hard deciding which to bring to each gathering now. How does it look underneath?
      Yep, 2 of each.

      The underside looks pretty decent from what I've seen so far.
      Deal with it.
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      07-31-2010 08:53 PM #14
      Nice find! Looks like someone had big plans for it at one point..
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      07-31-2010 08:59 PM #15
      Nice FInd!!!
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      07-31-2010 09:59 PM #16
      Chris:
      Great stuff!!!

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      07-31-2010 10:04 PM #17
      Nice find.

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      07-31-2010 10:09 PM #18
      Thanks guys!

      Next step is to check for power at the fuel pump, and the rear lights. I suspect that's the stuff the PO was working on rewiring after the mice chewed it. Apparently mice love fuel systems, as a mouse chewed through the plastic fuel line and fuel pump wiring on my Jeep a few years ago.

      Then I'll work on getting it started.

      Maybe I'll have it on the road by h2o, we'll see.
      Deal with it.
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      07-31-2010 11:14 PM #19
      Wow man that is a very clean looking car. GL with getting it running...we all know how much these fuel systems love to sit.

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      08-01-2010 01:00 AM #20
      Nice find.

      Congrats!!

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      08-01-2010 01:31 AM #21
      Sure is purdy, looks kinda like mine.
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      08-01-2010 11:09 AM #22
      It seems to me that a turbo would work really well with the automatic trans.
      Just sayin'.

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      08-01-2010 11:25 AM #23
      Quote Originally Posted by J. Daniel View Post
      It seems to me that a turbo would work really well with the automatic trans.
      Just sayin'.
      But the automatic trans probably wouldn't work too well with a turbo.
      Deal with it.
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      08-01-2010 01:39 PM #24
      It would work.
      But for how long?

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      08-01-2010 05:31 PM #25
      Congrats Chris! It would seem that you have one that you can build off of that will take very little to resurrect.

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      08-02-2010 06:08 AM #26
      Quote Originally Posted by Chris16vRocco View Post
      This one is a 1980, in Indiana Red. And it hasn't been driven in 15 years. The inspection sticker on the windshield is from 1993, and the license plate expired in 1995.



      What doesn't work:
      -Rear lights
      -Fuel pump

      Also, I found a jumper wire going to the radiator fan, so I suspect that the fan switch is bad. I'll have to check that out later. Gotta get it running first.
      Nice scirocco.

      You might want to take a look at your fuse panel. A new one might fix your electrical problems.

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      08-28-2010 05:55 PM #27
      Got back to work on this today. I needed to figure out why there's no power at the fuel pump. I followed the wires back up through the floor under the back seat and across the car to the main wiring harness on the drivers side. Those wires are all in good condition. The grounding point under the back seat is clean and tight as well.

      So, I started checking for power at the fuel pump relay. The relay on my car is in one of the added on pieces that clips to the top of the fuse box, with a plug from the back of that going to the front side of the fuse box, where the Bentley shows the fuel pump relay going (3rd relay spot from the left).

      I have 12v at both terminals 15 (switched 12v) and 30 (constant 12v), as well as at both ends of the fuse that's mounted on the relay.

      But with the ignition switched on (12v being applied to terminal 15), there is no power at all at terminal 87 on the relay, which goes to the pump. I switched the relay to a brand new one (OEM replacement, same manufacturer as the original), same thing.

      So, any ideas on what I'm missing here?
      Deal with it.
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      08-28-2010 07:03 PM #28
      Quote Originally Posted by Chris16vRocco View Post

      So, any ideas on what I'm missing here?
      1. Megasquirt
      2. Turbo
      3. Big goofy smile


      Seriously, I got my fuel pump running reliably for the first time on Megasquirt, before I had anything else on MS. I got sick of the fuse panel bypass flakiness, and had the MS stuff sitting in the car not doing anything, so one yellow wire later, no more erratic fuel pump. The ignition wasn't far behind, and it was a long time after that before the injectors were actually controlled by MS.

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      08-28-2010 11:02 PM #29
      Nice find you got there.

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      09-01-2010 06:31 PM #30
      Quick update...

      Today I worked on the front brakes, upgrading to vented 9.4" rotors with new pads, rotors, calipers and hoses. I didn't mess with any of the electrical stuff, since I thought the voltmeter was up here at my dad's house. When I was cleaning up I saw it laying on the front seat of the 80, so I could have been dealing with that. Oh well, another day.
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      09-03-2010 08:03 PM #31
      for real !!!
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      09-03-2010 08:07 PM #32
      The bad:
      -Automatic transmission
      -A mouse chewed at the wiring, and the PO didn't quite finish fixing it
      -A/C compressor is locked up

      I'll take that trans off your hands 770-380-4437 cell
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      09-06-2010 09:59 AM #33
      OK, so quick question for the gurus...

      The fuel pump relay is supposed to get a signal from the coil, is it not? And it's supposed to go to terminal 31b on the relay if I'm not mistaken. I have 1.8v at terminal 31b, is that correct or is it supposed to be 12v?

      I do have 12v at terminals 30 (constant +) and 15 (switched +).

      Thanks!
      Deal with it.
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      09-06-2010 05:16 PM #34
      So today, after testing for signal from the coil to the fuel pump relay (as mentioned above) I assembled my new hydraulic press () and pressed in my rear wheel bearing races. I also removed the old master cylinder.

      One small problem though....



      One of the nipples snapped off of the reservoir when I removed it from the old cylinder. (Don't you just hate it when one of your nipples breaks off? ) So now I need a new reservoir.
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      09-08-2010 11:52 AM #35
      Reservoir has been ordered, so that's something.

      On the electrical front, I think I've found the problem. I was looking at the back side of the fuse box to trace the wire for the coil signal. I saw a black/green wire that was cut off right at the back of the fuse box. According to the Bentley, that wire supplies power to the fuel pump, warm air regulator and auxiliary air regulator. So the next step would be to find that wire and reconnect it.

      I just love wiring.
      Deal with it.
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