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    Thread: New 70's euro-box in the family!

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      06-06-2012 05:51 PM #37
      Thread revival...

      My nephew now hay a '64 notchback VW (beautiful, with Fuchs wheels), and he wanted to get rid of the Fiat. As nobody wanted it, I thought I'd give it a new home. So... I am collecting data on how to make the engine a bit more powerful. The Fiat SOHC seems to respond pretty well to tuning. The plan so far includes a nice exhaust (think 2,5") and a 4-in-1 manifold; a more aggressive cam, maybe bigger inlet and exhaust valves, and I'd love to have two twin carbs in there; the sound is so intoxicating... I'll be looking at 130hp by then; should be a handful to drive balls-out. You can feel the torque-steering already. The shocks are pretty good still (Sachs), when they are done I think I'll install some Osrav off a Fiat 127 as they are 2" shorter. Should give the car a nice drop. The rear leaf spring will get some spacers. Then I'd try to fit the cobra seats that are left from the E21 we both wanted to restore. The dash is cracked and if I can't find a replacement I will cover it in suede.

      Anyhow, up to now I rebuilt the brake system (new master cylinder, new front and rear pads and some brake lines); new steering joints and new wheel bearings. I made a bushing for the throttle linkage and adjusted the clutch cable and it feels already better.

      This will be a slow build I guess, I hope I'll be able to start collecting the engine parts so that in a couple of months I'll be able to play real-life Lego

      A couple of pics:

      The missing bushing:



      New bushing, made out of a block of delrin:



      Other side:



      And I find it strange that it has some difficulties to start??



      My first patch, and it definitely looks like it:



      Brakes:





      Front sway bar in yellow; serves also as longitudinal control arm:



      Boxy:



      Front suspension:




      Fiat 126 bis build thread here. Error 404: 0-60 not found.
      Fiat 128, the stroppy cow.

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      08-20-2012 05:39 PM #38
      This last weekend I tried something new; I wanted to fill some grooves left by rust in the rear lid but did not want to use bondo so I tried the lead loading technique.

      It did work, although not on the first try of course. But I hope the car won't ever rust again there.

      Starting point, used a rust converter hence the brown color



      Clean the converter off



      Put on the flux paste



      Heat it and put some lead/tin on the metal (notice the area grew bigger...)



      File it down once it is hard



      After that I applied a very thin coat of bondo that I then sanded down and put primer on afterwards.

      Primer




      Then I proceeded to fix the hole under the rear window.

      Cut off the bad part.





      Cut off some more as the first try wasn't enough





      [IMG][/IMG]

      Make replacement



      Make new replacement in one piece without cuts as first one was crap and cover the rear it in solder-proof primer (no pictures)



      Tack it on and smooth the weld spots



      Clap yourself on the shoulder, maybe

      Other random things: Swapped all the instrument lights with same color LEDs, now one can read the speedometer even at night... Found out the front seats are from a BMW e30 two-door and have separated front and rear height adjustment. And found a couple of coins under the floor mat...
      Fiat 126 bis build thread here. Error 404: 0-60 not found.
      Fiat 128, the stroppy cow.

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      08-20-2012 06:14 PM #39
      More rust repair please, so I can learn from you!
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      08-20-2012 06:23 PM #40
      Quote Originally Posted by VadGTI View Post
      More rust repair please, so I can learn from you!
      I don't know if I'm the right guy to imitate with all the talented guys we have around here, but I take it as a compliment

      There's still plenty of rust on the poor box; but I plan on removing all of it and replacing metal as I go. Now I have a small camera that I can take with me and take snapshots of what I'm doing.
      Fiat 126 bis build thread here. Error 404: 0-60 not found.
      Fiat 128, the stroppy cow.

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      08-20-2012 06:27 PM #41
      I do have a soft spot for these cars, even though they misbehaved when new.

      My dad had one of these new:




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      08-20-2012 06:33 PM #42
      Quote Originally Posted by Maggiolone View Post
      I do have a soft spot for these cars, even though they misbehaved when new.

      My dad had one of these new:




      They have become really rare. I'd love to find a wagon some day and give it the "special" treatment.
      Fiat 126 bis build thread here. Error 404: 0-60 not found.
      Fiat 128, the stroppy cow.

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      10-29-2012 10:21 PM #43
      Nice looking Fiat
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      10-29-2012 10:33 PM #44
      Odd looking cars for sure !

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      04-12-2013 10:45 AM #45
      Update:

      Managed to take off the windshield in order to fix the rust underneath. It's more than I had "hoped" for...









      Fiat 126 bis build thread here. Error 404: 0-60 not found.
      Fiat 128, the stroppy cow.

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      04-12-2013 01:52 PM #46
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      04-12-2013 02:04 PM #48
      I'm sure you'll have that windshield frame fixed in no time.

      Looks like any other Mk1 VW Golf frame.
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      04-12-2013 02:11 PM #49
      Great work! I love to see this kind of thing in here.

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      04-12-2013 02:25 PM #50
      Quote Originally Posted by 200HP4dr View Post
      Great work! I love to see this kind of thing in here.

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      Yes!

      My uncle had a green 128 in the 60's and early '70s in Italy when I visited as a kid. It was always overshadowed by my cousin's Alfa Romeo Giulia, but the Fiat ran great up and down those mountain roads in central Italy.

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      04-12-2013 03:18 PM #51
      I love that car and I love this thread. Please keep us posted on your most excellent efforts.
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      04-12-2013 04:08 PM #52
      I think I'll need to remove the fenders, or at least detach them from the structure where they meet the windshield frame, so I can thoroughly remove the tust that's there. But to be honest, I am a bit unsure about what to do now. I might bring it in, on the other hand I can't really do work now, as I have the wrong sheeetmetal, ie it's too thick and I have difficulties in modeling it the way it should be. But don't worry, this car will be saved. It's jsut too cool to give up I actually miss driving it, it's fun, fun, fun!
      Fiat 126 bis build thread here. Error 404: 0-60 not found.
      Fiat 128, the stroppy cow.

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      04-12-2013 04:11 PM #53
      Quote Originally Posted by Lupo TDI View Post
      Update:

      Managed to take off the windshield in order to fix the rust underneath. It's more than I had "hoped" for...
      Ouch! That's going to require some serious metal. Is the cowl available as a new part? If not, do you think you could patch in sections from something like a Mk 1 Golf? I'm pretty confident those are still available.

      Good luck with it!
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      04-23-2013 04:26 PM #54
      Of course the cowl is not available as a replacement part

      I've made a piece of cardboard to have the curvature of the lower corners, and compared it to a cowl of a BMW e21 (you remember? ) and it seems to be identical. Of course, the curvature of the surface from the windscreen to the hood is different, but that is a lesser problem in my opinion. In order to not ruin an original BMW replacement cowl I looked further and I found these two items, for a Golf 1. Thanks fort that idea by the way!

      I'll be able to work on the 128 in two weeks time, hopefully I'll make some serious progress. I need to pull the fenders as they're rotting too, and I honestly don't want a "rat". After that I'm going to have it professionally painted. the car deserves it.
      Fiat 126 bis build thread here. Error 404: 0-60 not found.
      Fiat 128, the stroppy cow.

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      04-23-2013 04:41 PM #55
      Ah, yes. I'm actually surprised they didn't just hand out an accessory package of rust when you bought a new Fiat in the 1960's and 70's. (Alfasuds were even worse.)

      Good for you in tackling this project! There are some decent metalworkers in TCL (Barry and GaryC come to mind) that might be able to offer some advice.

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      04-23-2013 04:46 PM #56
      Quote Originally Posted by Numbersix View Post
      Ah, yes. I'm actually surprised they didn't just hand out an accessory package of rust when you bought a new Fiat in the 1960's and 70's. (Alfasuds were even worse.)

      Good for you in tackling this project! There are some decent metalworkers in TCL (Barry and GaryC come to mind) that might be able to offer some advice.
      LoL

      The Alfasud story is such a shame; it could have been so much more successful, it was an amazing chassis. I had the possibility to drive an Alfasud Sprint 1.3 with twin downdraft Webers, and it didn't feel like any FWF compact I drove til then. (mostly VWs: Lupo, Golf 3, Golf 4).

      Thanks.
      Maybe they'll see the thread; but I've learned a lot from their threads, especially Barry's Lincoln Limo Project. I really hope to get this done soon.
      Fiat 126 bis build thread here. Error 404: 0-60 not found.
      Fiat 128, the stroppy cow.

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      05-03-2013 05:50 PM #57
      Golf MK1 repair part has arrived... next weekend we'll see if it fits or not...

      Fiat 126 bis build thread here. Error 404: 0-60 not found.
      Fiat 128, the stroppy cow.

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      05-03-2013 07:33 PM #58
      Nice!

      I'm hoping it does.
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      05-03-2013 09:21 PM #59
      good luck with all the rust repairs, dont you just live getting into more than you had planned?
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      05-05-2013 03:12 PM #60
      Yikes! That's a lot of work.
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      07-08-2013 09:41 AM #61
      Quote Originally Posted by barry2952 View Post
      Yikes! That's a lot of work.
      Yep, too much - at least for now.

      So, what to do now? I need the car in August right? I just came back yesterday from a 2 days trip in italy and I came back with this thing:





      A 1974 1.1 liter 2-Door 99% RUST FREE Fiat 128.

      Now I'll just have to swap the engines and gearboxes between the two
      Fiat 126 bis build thread here. Error 404: 0-60 not found.
      Fiat 128, the stroppy cow.

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      07-08-2013 01:56 PM #63
      Love the white one! What a great looking little box.

    29. 03-31-2014 07:27 PM #64
      Damn I want one of those to now lol. Beautiful cars!

    30. 04-05-2014 05:41 PM #65
      Nice car! I'm new here, and I have a green 4 doors like yours. I'm currently fitting the 1500 Ritmo engine and the 5 speed gearbox.
      All the information you need for the 128 and 1500 SOHC tuning is here :

      http://www.sfconline.org.uk/forum/to...p?TOPIC_ID=181
      http://www.mirafiori.com/~courtney/128/128page.html
      Especially :
      http://www.mirafiori.com/pbs/pbssohc.html

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      http://www.autostoria.fr/nl/
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      For high performance parts :
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      04-06-2014 04:25 PM #66
      Looooong time no update... as there has been nothing to write about. I still don't know if the head is cracked on the 1100 engine and I still don't know what to do with the red one...

      Couple of things though, as I have been contacted by an user:

      The fuel return line on the carb was made useless by putting a screw of the right diameter and with the thread part removed in a piece of fuel line.



      For the other pipe on the carb: mine goes to the line coming from the crankcase ventilation.







      The small line coming from the manifold: Do you have a vacuum-actuated distributor? Maybe it's that one.
      Fiat 126 bis build thread here. Error 404: 0-60 not found.
      Fiat 128, the stroppy cow.

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