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    1. Member grounded87's Avatar
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      08-13-2010 03:22 PM #1
      Yes 4 kids. 3 in booster seats, one more on the way. the obvious choice is a minivan.

      Was brainstorming with a friend at lunch who has a 4th child on the way... what else is there that retain some character, in stock or modified form, but also some daily driveability?

      There seems to be a lack of real 3rd row contenders until the current high dollar crossover offerings since the demise of the B-body wagon, which had at least a usable jumper seat.


      here's a few that have crossed my mind:

      '80's GM Suburban (bagged or dropped on some hot rod inspired wheels):



      '90's era Suburbans also are cheap enough to mod within budget but have some more modern amenities, fuel injection, etc.:



      the forementioned GM B-body wagons. up till '95/'96 the Caprice/Roadmaster wagons had LT1 power, but even the TBI cars were pretty much workhorses with enough torque to tug them around. Easy to make Impala clones and/or they look slick dropped/bagged. 3rd row jumper isn't a true "3rd row" though so may not be ideal for daily kid hauling:



      ...the Japanese may be on to something with their modifying Dodge Ram vans:



      ...and they also brought us the VIP style minivan, which isn't done so often in the US:





      others???
      Last edited by grounded87; 08-14-2010 at 02:56 PM.
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      08-13-2010 03:32 PM #2
      lol, oh lawd

      3 !?! in a booster seats and 1 on the way?!?

      Based on the way you are popping them out, I'd just get a dodge ram van (Church van) I come a family of 10 and my parents had to own a van for 20 years.
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      08-13-2010 03:35 PM #3
      Quote Originally Posted by VW1.8Tsunami View Post
      lol, oh lawd

      3 !?! in a booster seats and 1 on the way?!?

      Based on the way you are popping them out, I'd just get a dodge ram van (Church van) I come a family of 10 and my parents had to own a van for 20 years.
      ha. well not me. but a friend... and yeah, kind of a brady bunch situation. he has 2 kids from ex-wife, and new woman has 1 kid already... now they have one together on the way.

      ...and they're all girls.

      he's going to have his hands full when they are of age.



      back on topic... the Vanagon would also work, though I don't know that I'd ever want to be in a front end collision in any of the older VW tin cans.



      Eurovan would be a bit safer, though they seem to go for more money and be problem prone... plus I never really grew fond of the general style of them:

      Last edited by grounded87; 08-13-2010 at 03:40 PM.
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      08-13-2010 03:35 PM #4
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      08-13-2010 03:42 PM #5
      Quote Originally Posted by VW1.8Tsunami View Post
      Based on the way you are popping them out, I'd just get a dodge ram van (Church van) I come a family of 10 and my parents had to own a van for 20 years.
      Church vans are a terrible idea unless you want to meet God up close and personal:

      http://www.nhtsa.gov/cars/problems/s...15passvan.html

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      08-13-2010 03:56 PM #7
      4x4 Astro vans have a cult following... and would be useful here in Michigan:



      ...they even look decent when slammed (imo):



      ...and this church van looks to be less prone to rolling over:



      ...or just go full on retro and bring on the Custom Craze of the '70's. White letter tires, side pipes and mag rims pull the ladies... (though that may lead to more kids) :
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      08-13-2010 03:57 PM #8
      850 T5-R with a 3rd row seat will seat 7


      And judging by what you put, you could use a dually lowrider

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      We call these Yoder toters


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      08-13-2010 04:03 PM #10
      I'd snag the latest model possible Ram conversion van.
      I can't think of anything that drops in value as fast in the used market and thus creates a great deal.
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      08-13-2010 04:11 PM #11
      Doesn't suck? Check.

      http://www.allbibles.com/ads/6x6_trucks.html

      With the $5800 you'd have left over, I'm sure you could get the cargo area canvas covered or something. Kids are pretty weather-resistant
      Bonus: room for your kid's whole soccer team; honest 8-10mpg highway; runs on gas, diesel, or kerosene.

    12. 08-13-2010 04:12 PM #12
      Growing up in a family with 5 kids, I have spent time in most of the vehicles pictured here. 2 Suburbans, couple minivans, an Expedition, but the Dodge Ram van was the best by far. Put >100k on ours including a couple trips around the country with a 6,000 lb trailer in tow. Towing uphill through death valley with the A/C on full blast? No problem. Also, there's enough room to stand 2 dirt bikes in back .



      Best part was the buying experience:

      Mom: A lot of families I know have these big SUV's now. I like being higher up, and they are very pretty. I know they're expensive, but we definitely need one of those.
      Dad: I agree. We need something with space for all the kids and crap we haul around. Also something more reliable than the Suburban that broke down in the middle of the Nevada desert.

      ...3 Hours Later...

      Dad: Here's your commercial looking Dodge Ram van!
      Mom:

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      08-13-2010 04:25 PM #13
      Quote Originally Posted by grounded87 View Post
      Yes 4 kids. 3 in booster seats, one more on the way. the obvious choice is a minivan.

      Was brainstorming with a friend at lunch who has a 4th child on the way... what else is there that retain some character, in stock or modified form, but also some daily driveability?
      "Character" and "driveability" is totally irrelevant as far as a kid-mover is concerned.... safety and flexibility are the only things that matter. Anyone who thinks otherwise probably needs to be hit in the head with a baseball bat until the HURR HURR I AM A MAN I MUST SHOW OFF bull**** falls out his ears.

      Every man I know with multiple kids has a practical van and an impractical toy. That's the correct answer.

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      08-13-2010 04:29 PM #14
      Quote Originally Posted by grounded87 View Post

      he's going to have his hands full when they almost of age.



      ftfy. i vote try and find a 4wd econoline, camping will be the only vacation affordable!!!

    15. 08-13-2010 04:38 PM #15
      Quote Originally Posted by rpmk4 View Post
      ftfy. i vote try and find a 4wd econoline, camping will be the only vacation affordable!!!


      Truth. I hope he likes camping. Our monthly Costco bill was >$1k.

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      08-13-2010 04:44 PM #16
      Quote Originally Posted by warren_s View Post
      "Character" and "driveability" is totally irrelevant as far as a kid-mover is concerned.... safety and flexibility are the only things that matter. Anyone who thinks otherwise probably needs to be hit in the head with a baseball bat until the HURR HURR I AM A MAN I MUST SHOW OFF bull**** falls out his ears.

      While I agree they should be the priority, I don't think they have to be the "only things that matter".

      why can't a car that is safe and "flexible" (whatever you define that to be) also be something that one enjoys ownership of?


      Given the advance of automotive and safety technology, pretty much any '90's or newer vehicle is likely to have far better protection, safety systems, crash ratings, etc. than any vehicle you somehow survived childhood in growing up. I'm not saying that safety is ever anything to take lightly, but I don't think that choosing a vehicle based on safety should be the mutually exclusive defacto decision for anyone who happens to have children. That's the logic that ended up with all the mom's buying SUV's in the first place. "I crash, I win."
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      Problem solved?

    18. 08-13-2010 04:55 PM #18
      Here's a manual transmission equipped Mazda5 with RX-8 wheels listed for sale on AutoTrader for $10,500 OBO.





      The Mazda5 shares its platform with the Mazda3 and Volvo C30 so there is a possibility of part swapping if you find the stock Mazda5 suspension too soft.

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      08-13-2010 05:16 PM #20
      Conversion van perhaps?

      They are cheap and a dime a dozen.

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      08-13-2010 05:30 PM #21
      Land Cruiser. We were very comfortable in ours when friends visited over Christmas last year. We did 2000 km over the holiday season (1500 on gravel) with four adults and four kids under the age of 7.

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      08-13-2010 07:39 PM #22
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      I'm selling my band's tour van, a 99 Dodge Ram conversion van. We just got back from a 2 month long tour, which took us every where from the desert in 120 degree weather, to the rockies, and it never once skipped a beat. Dead reliable, and was sooo comfortable, even when it's your home for 2 months. I highly recommend them... More specificially... Mine... Plus, it's well below $10k.

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    24. 08-13-2010 09:03 PM #24
      Quote Originally Posted by GsR View Post


      Problem solved?
      Parents who put kids in trunk are sentenced

      Three Petersburg parents who stowed their children in the trunk of a car during a lengthy road trip last summer pleaded guilty Tuesday to misdemeanor child abuse.

      In Bedford County Circuit Court, Dwayne and Conchita Spurlock were each sentenced to eight months in jail, while Armentha Kennedy was sentenced to one month in jail, according to court records.

      The three initially had been charged with felony child abuse after Bedford officers stopped their car July 13 and found three children, ages 8, 9 and 11, in the trunk. The back seat of the car had been folded down to allow air to circulate into the trunk.

      The Spurlocks are the parents of two of the children and Kennedy is the parent of one.

      The families were returning to Petersburg after attending a family reunion in Salem. Police said Dwayne Spurlock said their vehicle had broken down in Roanoke and the rental car they were driving was too small to fit all the passengers.

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