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    Thread: DIY: Installing Höen Xenonmatch bulbs in foglights on a Golf

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      08-25-2010 09:44 PM #1
      After reading this thread I decided to order a set of 9006 Höen xenonmatch bulbs to fit in my foglights.
      The match is pretty close, but they are just a tad bit bluer than the stock HIDs, maybe a better match to 5000k HID capsules. Install was a breeze, account about 5 minutes for both sides. The only tool needed is a Torx 25 driver.

      You can buy the bulbs here.

      Here are the bulbs you will receive (9006 for the Golf):

      Hoen Fogs 001

      To give you an idea, here are some pictures with the stock fog light bulbs, as you can tell they are yellower than the stock 4300k HID lights:

      Hoen Fogs 003

      Hoen Fogs 004

      Hoen Fogs 005

      Here is the fog light assembly and the fog light grille. To remove the grille, I just pulled it from the center, the slats near the actual fog light lens. It pulled right out (I had taken them off before to put the Lamin-X on too). You can see the clips on the back side of the grille to give you an idea of how it's held in. The outer part of the grille also has a tab that fits in a hole in the bumper (re-install that part first when you put the grille back on):

      Hoen Fogs 002

      Hoen Fogs 006

      Hoen Fogs 007

      Now take your Torx 25 driver and remove the single screw that holds the assembly in (the other side has 2 tabs):

      Hoen Fogs 008

      Pull the light assembly out:

      Hoen Fogs 009

      Remove the bulb from the fog light assembly (I left it connected to the harness to make it easier to handle):

      Hoen Fogs 010

      Now disconnect it from the harness, there is a little tab locking it in, just push the tab and pull the bulb out, remember not to touch the surface of the bulb as the oil on your hands can shorten teh life of the bulb. Now install the Hoen bulb on the harness:

      Hoen Fogs 011

      Put the bulb back into the fog light assembly, and put the fog light back into the bumper, re-attach the Torx 25 screw:

      Hoen Fogs 012

      Put the fog light grille back on (remember to put the tab on the outer part first, the rest will just clip right in):

      Hoen Fogs 013

      Repeat for the other side and you're done !

      Here are some pictures with only the driver's side (left side of the car) fitted with the Höen Xenon match bulb to show the comparison with the stock bulb:

      Hoen Fogs 014

      Hoen Fogs 015

      Hoen Fogs 016

      Hoen Fogs 017

      Hoen Fogs 018

      Night time pics:

      Fogs only:

      Fogs Night 001

      Fogs Night 002

      Fogs and headlights:

      Fogs Night 003

      Fogs Night 004

      Headlights only:

      Fogs Night 005

      More new pics:

      Hoen Fog Lights 001

      Hoen Fog Lights 002

      Hoen Fog Lights 003

      Remember, I am not responsible for anything that happens to your car, you are responsible for your own car.

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      08-25-2010 09:49 PM #2
      Any night shots yet?

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      08-25-2010 09:53 PM #3
      Quote Originally Posted by bpowellAU View Post
      Any night shots yet?
      no but I can get some

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      08-25-2010 10:37 PM #4
      added night shots

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      08-26-2010 05:23 PM #5
      Thanks for the DIY! Mine just came in a couple days ago... was gonna wait till the weekend to get them on. Hopefully it's the same process on the GTI.

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      08-26-2010 05:24 PM #6
      you love making DIY's... you need a new screen name. Mr. DIY

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      08-26-2010 11:15 PM #7
      Quote Originally Posted by absoluteczech View Post
      you love making DIY's... you need a new screen name. Mr. DIY
      Tru that. this guy is making modding cake for the rest of us. good work.

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      09-01-2010 11:00 PM #8
      Haha thanks

      Added 3 new pics to the first post too

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      09-04-2010 06:24 PM #9
      I was about to get started with this today, but couldn't figure out how to get the plastic honeycomb panel out. It's a bit different than the Golf since it has the thin parts toward the middle. Anyone try this yet that has some advice? Thanks!

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      09-04-2010 06:33 PM #10
      Does anyone know how the Sylvania SilverStar Ultra compares in terms of brightness and color temperature?

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      09-04-2010 06:48 PM #11
      Quote Originally Posted by crunchytheory View Post
      I was about to get started with this today, but couldn't figure out how to get the plastic honeycomb panel out. It's a bit different than the Golf since it has the thin parts toward the middle. Anyone try this yet that has some advice? Thanks!
      Don't the GTIs have the access panel in the fender liner ?

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      09-04-2010 08:03 PM #12
      Quote Originally Posted by 71sbeetle View Post
      Don't the GTIs have the access panel in the fender liner ?
      It does, you're right. Now there's a plastic assembly that is on there pretty good. Wondering if it needs to slide off or just be pulled straight off

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      02-16-2011 08:39 AM #13
      I know this thread is old, but thanks for the guide, easy peasy to do.. I've made somewhat the same as you, I just used Mtec Superwhite 9005 HB3 65w modified in the connector to fit the standard bulb connector, as well as rubber sealing moved over from the standard 9006.

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      02-17-2011 06:21 AM #15
      Is there a visible difference in light output? Hard to tell from the pics.

      I know, for the same wattage, manufacturers can't do much - but I find the light output of the fogs a bit on the weak side, and would like to maximize it (less interested in going bluish).

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      If you see my pic 1 and 3 and compare you will see the difference on the asphalt.

      Around 10 watts more than standard.
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      02-17-2011 08:01 PM #17
      Quote Originally Posted by TWinbrook46636 View Post
      Does anyone know how the Sylvania SilverStar Ultra compares in terms of brightness and color temperature?
      Sylvania says that Silverstar Ultras have a 4100K color temp. The stock HIDs are said to be about 4300K, so they should be a pretty good match. I just bought a pair of the Sylvanias and will install them this evening...

      OK, just finished. Less than 20 minutes, in the dark, taking it easy. The above-mentioned Sylvania SilverStar Ultras are rated at 51W @ 12V. While I was taking out the original bulbs, I checked to see what they were...and guess what: they're 51W @ 12V Sylvanias! Except for the color of the glass (purple vs clear), they even look identical. The SilverStar Ultras are noticeably whiter (the whole point, really) than the standard Sylvanias, but still look a bit yellow-ish compared to the just-turned-on, blue-ish HIDs. After the HIDs are good and warmed up, they seem to get a touch "warmer" (lower color temperature), so a good comparison between the fogs and the HIDs will have to wait for another evening when it's been out running for a while. Has anyone else noticed that the fog light lenses on the '11 Golf appear to be slightly smoked...just a bit "brown-ish"? They're not clear, and that makes matching the HID color using halogen bulbs just that much harder...
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      Anyone find good LEDs that fit (and that have a resistor, so they don't trigger the bulb-out warning)? At least in principle, there should be some that are brighter...

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      02-22-2011 08:29 PM #19
      The trouble with any high color temperature halogen is poor filament life. Sylvania Silverstar Ultras have notoriously poor life (some report as little as 300 hrs). The same is fundamentally true of any "white" bulb -- there is a tradeoff between filament brightness and life. At constant power/resistance, if you simultaneously thin and shorten the filament, it burns hotter & whiter but the thinner filament fails sooner. Who wants to be replacing bulbs every 3-6 months?

      For brightness, I'm not interested in retrofitting higher wattage bulbs -- even if it doesn't instantly burst into flames, doesn't mean it's good for the housing. And for color matching, blue coatings just dim the light output.

      Has anyone tried HIR bulbs in the mk6 fog housing? This magical-sounding technology uses a coating on the inside of the bulb to reflect IR radiation back to the filament, making it burn hotter without using extra power or thinning the filament. HIR never took off, as it was introduced right as HIDs were supplanting halogens in higher-end vehicles. I ordered a pair of 9012s for kicks off Max Lumens. They should burn a little whiter, but be way brighter.

      here is a good thread with more background

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      02-22-2011 09:01 PM #20
      I put in some yellow PIAAs over the weekend... Don't know about you folks, but my grills were a major PITA to get out.

      All is well though and I love the contrast with the HIDs.

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      02-27-2011 02:07 PM #21
      If anyone was wondering, the 9006's do not fit the GTI. Höen's fitment guide says they are for 2006+ GTI, but I went to install mine today and the stock bulb is an H8.

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      03-02-2011 12:10 AM #22
      9006s are the correct bulbs for the MK6 Golf fogs...

      As an update to my installed Sylvania SilverStar Ultras, I have to say that they're not as white as I had hoped. While they're definitely whiter than the stock bulbs, they still look noticeably yellow when compared to the stock HIDs. I've found in the past that Philips CrystalVision Ultra bulbs tend to run a bit whiter than the Sylvania SilverStar Ultras, even though Sylvania claims 4100K for their bulbs while Philips only claims 4000K. I've also found that the Philips bulbs last longer and are a bit cheaper as well.

      I'd gladly trade a little of the output of these Sylvanias for whiter light, as long as they still lasted a reasonable amount of time. I'd consider an HID conversion if any of the available HID bulbs had shadow masks on their tips like the 9006s do, but so far none do. If you put a bulb with no shadow mask on its tip into one of these fog light housings, you end up with an obnoxious flood light instead. That's definitely not fair to oncoming traffic. No, the Hoens shown in the OP may just be the hot ticket. I just wish I hadn't spent $50 on these stupid Sylvanias...
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      03-02-2011 02:28 AM #23
      Quote Originally Posted by golf-zilla View Post
      If you put a bulb with no shadow mask on its tip into one of these fog light housings, you end up with an obnoxious flood light instead. That's definitely not fair to oncoming traffic.
      Yup. The HIRs I just put in this week (Philips 9012, trimmed down to fit the 9006 housing) are substantially brighter than stock, but without the shadow mask the filament is directly exposed. They're only a little whiter than stock -- which is to say, noticeably whiter in a side by side comparison, but still yellow.

      Unlike many of you, I don't run fogs as DRLs or anything other than cornering lights, but nevertheless I feel a little guilty running the HIRs, and might switch them out. Maybe the presumably crappy lifetime of the Hoens/Silverstars won't matter in my case, since I put so few Amp-hours on my bulbs.

      I want BRIGHT bulbs gotdammit (white would be pretty too)

    24. 05-05-2011 06:50 PM #24
      Does anybody have pics with yellow fogs?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Madtytetdi View Post
      Does anybody have pics with yellow fogs?
      search?

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      09-02-2011 08:24 PM #27
      Quote Originally Posted by duckstardeluxe View Post
      I know this thread is old, but thanks for the guide, easy peasy to do.. I've made somewhat the same as you, I just used Mtec Superwhite 9005 HB3 65w modified in the connector to fit the standard bulb connector, as well as rubber sealing moved over from the standard 9006.

      After reading duckstardeluxe's post and looking at his pics, decided to replaced my OEM fog bulbs on my 2010 Golf TDI with these Mtec Superwhite 9005 HB3 65w bulbs. Since I'm in the US, did a google search for MTEC and wound up here: http://stores.ebay.com/mtecpower/435...=p4634.c0.m322. These are 4350K rated MTEC bulbs available from their ebay store. Paid 26.95 plus 6.00 for shipping. Got exactly what is listed in a few days in CA.
      The stock bulbs on my 2010 Golf TDI are Slyvania 9006 HB4 rated at 51 watts. Info directly off the bulbs. I wanted a little more light so I went with the 65W 9005 HB3.
      WARNING. The 9005 HB3 are 65w Bulbs, thus a little more heat then stock. about 33% more if I calculate correctly.
      WARNING. You MUST MODIFY the bulb connector before they will fit in the connector. You'll have to remove the double "guide" on bulb by grinding it off. Used a dremel with a small grinder ball. Compare the OEM with the MTEC and you'll see what you need to remove. Very dense and hard plastic, so you'll need a dremel our a lot of time with a small manual file. Took about 15 mins to grind the guides off. No need to change any "rubber seal".
      1. You can remove the driver side bulbs by accessing through the fenderwell vice removing the front fog light grill as OP did. The passenger side has the washer fluid tank in front of the foglight housing so you will have to remove the foglight grill as listed above in the OP's 1st post.
      - Turn wheel inboard and remove the 4 T25 torx bolts that secure the fenderwell liner. Pull the liner back and you can see the bulb and connector.
      -Easier to remove the bulb from the foglight housing, by turning it a quarter of a turn to remove it from the back of the foglight housing, and then remove the connector from the bulb.
      2. Bulb fits smoothly on the OEM connector, once the guides are removed. The bulb "catch" for the connector and the "3 guides" on the bulb are the same as the stock 9006. No issues aligning the bulb on the back of the housing and turning the one quarter turn to secure the bulb into the foglight housing.
      3. Easier to install bulb on connector before installing bulb on foglight housing imho.
      4. Reinstall the 4 torx screws.
      The MTEC bulbs are a much closer match to the HID lights than the original OEM. IMHO, there is more light out put and "better" visibility due to the "whiter" light. At least my eyes interpret so.

      5. I'll report back if these 65 watt'ers melt my for housings. Hope not, and I haven't read anywhere that they have melted anyone's housing on those cars that have them installed. By the way, I have driven almost the entire summer in the CA desert. Still in 90s when I turn them on, so if they do melt, it will be soon.
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      Quote Originally Posted by bobt2382 View Post
      After reading duckstardeluxe's post and looking at his pics, decided to replaced my OEM fog bulbs on my 2010 Golf TDI with these Mtec Superwhite 9005 HB3 65w bulbs. Since I'm in the US, did a google search for MTEC and wound up here: http://stores.ebay.com/mtecpower/435...=p4634.c0.m322. These are 4350K rated MTEC bulbs available from their ebay store. Paid 26.95 plus 6.00 for shipping. Got exactly what is listed in a few days in CA.
      The stock bulbs on my 2010 Golf TDI are Slyvania 9006 HB4 rated at 51 watts. Info directly off the bulbs. I wanted a little more light so I went with the 65W 9005 HB3.
      WARNING. The 9005 HB3 are 65w Bulbs, thus a little more heat then stock. about 33% more if I calculate correctly.
      WARNING. You MUST MODIFY the bulb connector before they will fit in the connector. You'll have to remove the double "guide" on bulb by grinding it off. Used a dremel with a small grinder ball. Compare the OEM with the MTEC and you'll see what you need to remove. Very dense and hard plastic, so you'll need a dremel our a lot of time with a small manual file. Took about 15 mins to grind the guides off. No need to change any "rubber seal".
      1. You can remove the driver side bulbs by accessing through the fenderwell vice removing the front fog light grill as OP did. The passenger side has the washer fluid tank in front of the foglight housing so you will have to remove the foglight grill as listed above in the OP's 1st post.
      - Turn wheel inboard and remove the 4 T25 torx bolts that secure the fenderwell liner. Pull the liner back and you can see the bulb and connector.
      -Easier to remove the bulb from the foglight housing, by turning it a quarter of a turn to remove it from the back of the foglight housing, and then remove the connector from the bulb.
      2. Bulb fits smoothly on the OEM connector, once the guides are removed. The bulb "catch" for the connector and the "3 guides" on the bulb are the same as the stock 9006. No issues aligning the bulb on the back of the housing and turning the one quarter turn to secure the bulb into the foglight housing.
      3. Easier to install bulb on connector before installing bulb on foglight housing imho.
      4. Reinstall the 4 torx screws.
      The MTEC bulbs are a much closer match to the HID lights than the original OEM. IMHO, there is more light out put and "better" visibility due to the "whiter" light. At least my eyes interpret so.

      5. I'll report back if these 65 watt'ers melt my for housings. Hope not, and I haven't read anywhere that they have melted anyone's housing on those cars that have them installed. By the way, I have driven almost the entire summer in the CA desert. Still in 90s when I turn them on, so if they do melt, it will be soon.
      Thanks for the tip, I live in the Netherlands and sending the HOEN fog lights to the NL was too costly.

      So today I installed the MTEC superwhite fog lights. Replacing the standard yellow ones. I really should have brought a better camera, it is hard to see the difference. In real life it is a real big difference. It totally matches the OEM Bi-Xenon headlights.

      Both standard 'yellow' bulbs:



      Left = yellow, right = white:




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      12-26-2011 07:27 PM #29
      I couldn't find anything when I searched about these bulbs if they could be used in the headlights. I would love to get these but it looks like on their website it says it is almost 70-80W. Just wonfering if anyone has used the bulbs in the headlights. Saw a thread by MK6GTI? asking if they could be used but I didn't see an answer in that thread.

      Thanks!

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      05-03-2012 11:30 PM #30
      Promised feedback on my concerns with using 65w bulbs.

      I replaced my OEM fog bulbs on my 2010 Golf TDI with the Mtec Superwhite 9005 HB3 65w bulbs in Sept 2011. I was a little concerned about increased heat and current draw of these 65w bulbs compared to the stock lamps. I have had no issues with the wiring harness or the fog light housings melting or fuses blowing. There is no discoloration of the light housing lens or hardening/opaqueness to the applied LAMIN-X Clear film on the lens. I have had the clear laminix on for about a year and there is some minor surface 'pitting' in the vinyl. I do drive a lot in the CA desert, so it to be exepected from the occasional blowing sand.

      I do not drive constantly drive with the fog lights on but have had them on for a few hours at a time when the ambient tempature has approached 100 degrees fahrenheit. I only use them on unlit roads and they do throw light to the immediate front side of the vehicle.

      Still pleased with the near perfect color match of the bulbs with the OEM bi-xenon headlights.

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