Did you drive the defender yet? I was going to get it, my wife liked the disco, but it was too much to use properly, well for me anyway. So I ended up with the patrol, even that I find so amny scratches on it from branches etc, taking a ~ $100k disco would kill you. The defender is the right price though hey.
The defender is pretty small inside and the driving position and seats are pretty full on. New front seats wouldn't break the bank really, but its an awsome car for the bush. Might be hard to get on with around town. Pretty sure skc got some stratos seats or something? Cant remember which seats? His one is awsome looking
I'm sure me being 1.95m tall didn't help much either. I know the kids sat on those horrible booster seats for ages, but the patrol is mega comfy, back seats are pretty good. They have ducted aircon in the back floor and ceiling and fold out trays, like aiplanes too good if your going on long real long drives.
But the defender is at least 100 times cooler than the patrol, i even love the cookie cutter steelies on it.
Defender driving experience is actually only going up and down to Turoa Skifield in a Series 2 repowered with some holden engine... so not exactly a comprehensive test.
I'm back in Sydney next week and will take a friends 60th Anniversary Defender for a good strop.
Having only been a passenger in it previously all I can say is that the ergonomics rival a pre 996 Porsche, and to all intents and purposes it's like buying a new classic car. Performance is woeful by any measure, but that's a big bit of the charm. The Anniversary does have great Recaro seats though.
I remember sitting in one at a motor show and I couldn't close the drivers door without smashing up my right knee.
I think you'll be looking elsewhere after you drive one
haha yeah i'd love a defender and fancied one for a while i think they're ace lookin and I'm accustomed to a little roughness being an old mini head, but even I'd struggle with it reckon.. very agricultural and i remember either the hand brake or the gear stick being in a terrible position and the driving position being awfully cramped for such a large looking car, it'd get tired very quick and when commenting to the sales guys about all the exposed metal edges/screw/nutheads would be great with the kids rolling around the back to which he just laughed
I slept in the back of a series 2 at mt hotham during a blizzard, the rear door was held shut ( but nowhere near airtight) with a farm gate latch. Haha, though I was going to die.
Nearly bought an ex army troopie my self about 15 years ago, good mate spotted signs that it had been airlifted and prob dropped from height as they all are. Always loved army siht and this one was bush camo, even with the camo canvas cover etc, plank bench seat.
He actually did a test for a majour mag, a 6 or so wagon shootout thing, they all loved it in the bush, really loved it. He has had a lot of 4wds and at leats 20 years in the game.
Pretty true though, it is a new classic car. Looks fantastic, comes with dents from new.
The 60th ano has nice seats for sure.
Here's an obscure piece of Land Rover trivia.
Donald Judd's Land Rover (A rare site in Texas to be sure). Having been modified by one of the most important American sculptors would make it extremely valuable. It was out in the open when we visited in 2004, don't know where it will be now. A decent Judd piece will set you back $2M+......
of utility, useable power, reliability, durability, with a dollop of style if you like. if you had bought a mid-range x5, there would have been no fanfare, and you just may have wanted to keep it.
geoff brabham was just talking the bmw talk, there was no need for it, as the x5 was never gonna be tracked anyway.
Last edited by Jim Bookie; 09-14-2010 at 08:09 PM.
looks like tig too small from the watercoolers.
multivan on 19's is where it's at for luggage room and kid friendly, even the passat would be very tight with 3 car seats across the back we have had 2 in the back plus my wife in the middle who is small and it was a tight fit. Can your budget stretch to an X5 3.0D 7 seater? beleive the E class Merc's got the 7 spd auto update in early 2004, also some nice E350's around but they are up around 55-60g. or as an alternative but ugly as JB has suggested the R class can be had cheap for the petrol or diesel. Or perhaps an M Class? Tough choice I know I agonised for ages. I think VW had a driveaway special on the Multivan, also Touaregs can be had cheapish. Otherwise any of the Jap 4wd's but will suck petrol. I think the Superb wagon while big in narrow across the middle and similiar to the Passat.
One of these would be cool but not cheap this one is $65k
Last edited by Zorg2; 09-14-2010 at 08:17 PM.
Yeah I'm a Volvo driver
Did I mention the 1.13 T payload capacity? Downside - Late March 2011 delivery for our build order.
This was some idea of wheel options courtesy of Liam...
yes check on vw website twin turbo 2.0 litre 132kw plus gobs of torque handy for snow trips as well.
Last edited by Zorg2; 09-14-2010 at 09:54 PM.
Yeah I'm a Volvo driver